25 % of Aussies using Ecstasy and Antidepressant cocktails

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One in four ecstasy users in Australia takes antidepressants and other pharmaceuticals to heighten the effect of the drug, greatly increasing overdose risks, according to new Australian research. The survey by the country's National Drug and Alcohol Research Centre found 25% of 216 ecstasy users—mostly young, well-educated, urban residents—were combining the illicit drug with prescription pills for an extra "rush."

This group was mainly male. Most of them were not new users of the drug. They most often combined ecstasy with benzodiazepines, antidepressants and sildenafil (Viagra), saying they did this to increase the effect. They reported side-effects such as muscle rigidity, nausea, severe headaches and profuse sweating.

Dr. Gordian Fulde, director of emergency services at St. Vincent's Hospital, a major teaching facility in Sydney, called the findings "a frightening example of how misinformed many young people are.

"If people think they'll get an extra kick out of benzodiazepines they're wrong because benzodiazepines have a calming effect."

According to Paul Dillon, a spokesman for the National Drug and Alcohol Research Centre, the risk of overdosing is "drastically increased" when ecstasy is used with antidepressants.

"I've seen one case and it was just about the most horrible thing I've ever seen—a young man who was so hot you couldn't physically touch him," Dillon said. "The body can't cope with the huge serotonin rush and it melts."

The study discovered most users who mix ecstasy with other drugs are given pharmaceuticals by their friends.

Source: The Medical Post
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25 % of Aussies using Ecstasy and Antidepressant cocktails
Date: Tuesday, January 25 @ 08:28:37 GMT

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I'll never understand the relationship between taking antidepressants (specifically, SSRIs) with ecstasy. Half the time you see that it means you won't roll at all, now this says people are taking A/Ds + ecstasy to roll harder...I don't get it.
 
that title is pretty misleading , 25% of Aussies using ecstasy and antidepressent cocktails

more like 25% OF ecstasy users use antidepressent and xtc cocktails

is that article from a tabloid?
 
"I've seen one case and it was just about the most horrible thing I've ever seen—a young man who was so hot you couldn't physically touch him," Dillon said. "The body can't cope with the huge serotonin rush and it melts."
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Bodies melt?
 
No doubts there is a lot of poly-drug use happening which is uninformed and potentially hazardous. Who knows the motivation. Pretending that is doesn't happen or is somehow a fabrication does not help moves towards understanding, acceptence, decrimilisation or (heaven help us) legalisation.

Thats why information and harm reduction is a good idea.

My question for all the above posters (Crazeee, Leprechaun excepted) is "what do you think BL was created for?"
 
So hot that you couldn't physically touch him?

I'll take three hits of whatever that author is on. Just put it on my tab.
 
I am not sure and would appreciate anyone being able to clear it up (or I will later) but wasn't 5-HTP also classed as an antidepressant in this study?
 
if you take the anti-depressant prozac at the right time it may protect your brain from damage.

it'd be nice to know what drugs they were talking about besides just "anti-depressants"
 
Okay, so I hear anti-depressants combined with MDMA increases the effects while a good percentage of people on this website said that they diminsh the effects?!? I knew this was sorta odd when I used to roll all the time while under the influence of an SSRI. I always had an incredible roll so to those who believe that you can't roll while taking an SSRI...keep researching
 
Here's a link to the report cited:

http://ndarc.med.unsw.edu.au/ndarc....9fe2cd807cca256f5d0010e323/$FILE/TR.ES201.pdf

or you can access it via the NDARC website:
http://ndarc.med.unsw.edu.au/ndarc.nsf and go to publications/reports - it's called:

201. Gascoigne, M., Copeland, J. & Dillon, P. (2004). Ecstasy and the concomitant use of pharmaceuticals. National Drug and Alcohol Research Centre.

As you can see - Viagra to increase euphoria, benzos for comedown, MAOI pre-load, SSRI post-load. Some of these practices are riskier than others, but of course we wise bluelighters already know this ;)
 
honestly.. whoa.. wtf?! .. when i've tried to roll on SSRI/SSNI's .. NOTHING HAPPENS.. nothing, it doesn't work at all.. and the one time i tried pre-loading with 5-HTP.. i definately didn't roll/peak as hard as i do with nothing in my system before doing it.. maybe some grapefruit juice.. that always helps.. but lord.. 5-HTP/Prozac for the comedown and few days after is all you should need
 
This article really is stupid did Dr. Gordian Fulde hear people saying they are combining benzos with ecstacy to hieghten the rush or has just heard they do combine the two and jumped to the entirely the wrong conclusion.

Also the the places i've seen NDARC drawing from for participants in its studies have been here on bl, pill reports and 3D world, while people responding to the 3D world ad might be representative i think the people from pill reports and bl would seriously over-represent the amount of "serious drug users" who use ecstasy and do things like combine pharmaceuticals with it.
 
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