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2-DPMP/Desoxypipradrol - 50mg Redosed over 72 hours - Almost psychedelic...

phintly

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2-DPMPpipradrol 50mg - Unfamiliar - Colorless transparent crystals
Pentedrone - Familiar
Etizolam - Familiar
Phenprobamate - Not familiar - Clumpy white powder
Ethanol - Familiar
Diphenhydramine - Familiar
Mebroqualone - Familiar

I'm a fairly healthy individual. Just had my physical, all OK. I run 20-25 miles per week. My diet could use a little work but it's not all fast food and pizza. Experience with dozens of compounds of all kinds.


Please note: T:00 on each day means 6:00AM as it's when I begin my day on a normal basis.

Day 1
T+:00, I insufflated 10mg of the 2-DPMP and 20mg of pentedrone. Pentedrone's effects seemed to have the anticipated results, but the 2-DPMP compound didn't seem to contribute anything.
T+8:00, 10mg of the 2-DPMP and 20mg pentedrone insufflated. The only remarkable thing about that experience for I was how unremarkable the 2-DPMP appeared to be.
T+16:00 3 beers (12oz 5% ) I wanted to sleep but found himself unable. Not anxious, not like, as I described, coming down off of any number of amphetamines or other stimulants, but just, a wakefulness.
T+16:30 4mg etizolam (oral) 25mg Diphenhydramine (rectal) I has found this combination to work very well as a sleeping aid, perhaps, inducer, in cases of over stimulation or when sleep was required.
T+17:00 1g (oral) Phenprobamate was administered for its depressant effects noted in the literature. I is aware of synergistic effects of certain GABA agents and the danger (particularly between benzos and barbiturates/qualuudes), but I wanted to sleep and couldn't find any evidence at that time it would be unsafe.
T+21:00 I has difficulty in maintaining balance, heart rate normal, given the anxiety I must have been feeling (normal resting is 60, I was at 90). I mostly complained that if I knew I was going to be awake, I may as well have done something productive instead.

Day 2
T+00:00 20mg pent drone, 10mg 2-DPMP insufflated. Still nothing apparent from the 2-DPMPpipradrol. After a day without sleep and several sedatives still lingering, I felt like I needed get-up-and-go. I has got up and gone, reminding himself of the cycle of stimulants/depressants that people can fall into.
T+08:00 10mg 2-DPMP insufflated, despite, surprisingly, no mid-day droop, no apparent loss in acuity or anything of that nature. I passes on the pentedrone and is starting to wonder if his 2-DPMP is what it is, but I reminds himself that I had it independently verified (as verifiable as a few quick runs on a 400MHZ NMR, nothing else though).
T+16:00 Four beers (over an hour or two), 6mg etizolam oral, 50mg diphenhydramine rectal. 1g Phenprobamate oral. I wanted to sleep tonight because I knew the consequences of continued wakefulness.
T+20:00 Heart rate 90-95, I was obviously sedated, but unable to fall asleep, which was anxiety inducing in itself.
T+22:00 20mg pentedrone and 10mg 2-DPMP insufflated, sleeping now at this point would mean not waking up hours later.

Day3
T+00:00 10mg 2-DPMP and 20mg pentedrone insufflated. I still has not slept, and despite recently dosing decided that would be it for the 2-DPMP. It was inactive, poor ROA, or something. Sometimes people can be a little stupid.
T+08:00 20mg pentedrone insufflated. Sleep deprivation is definitely apparent to me, and I hope not to others. My concentration, heart rate, and all other standard vitals seemed mostly normal.
T+12:00 four beers, 2mg etizolam oral. It was my day off, finally, so I could at least not have to worry about functioning the next day. But then the oddest thing happened.
T+20:00 I felt awake, but not edgy. I could not sleep if I wanted to. I began noticing worrying symptoms, in particular, hallucinogenic symptoms. As I described, not the typical amphetamine psychotic like symptoms of paranoia or the like, but rather, I was experiencing effects I could only describe as something like 4-aco-dmt. Images, text, etc., if stared at long enough, all appeared to move. A glance away and back, and it was gone. They were not disturbing, or even impossible to ignore -- it was just like they were supposed to be there.

Day4
T+00:00 6mg etizolam oral, 50mg diphenhydramine rectal, 1g phenprobamate oral, and mebroqualone (dose unknown) vaporized. I slept for about 6 hours, heart rate was normal, and the hallucinations earlier described were gone.


Conclusions? Frankly, it's hard to say about this compound whether it's useful, good, bad, or otherwise. There's plenty of literature that indicates that it is poorly metabolized and its long half-life is due to its lipophilicity. That makes it dangerous, particularly if people do get a high or rush after using it. This individual, could not describe it other than anything but wakefulness promoting. And after all that, after I was finally able to sleep, everything was ... fine. It was like I hadn't been awake for 3 days and had any sort of sleep debt to make up for.

The substance was not euphoric, it didn't even feel stimulating or give an increase in concentration. It kept him awake, for several days, with 50mg. I see value in the compound as a wakefulness promoting agent (Like Modafinil), but from all of the different experiences and reports that I've read, with so small an amount required for intended effects, which...by the way...What are the intended effects? Wakefulness? Stimulation? Euphoria? It induced wakefulness in this individual, with eventual sleep deprived psychosis patterns.So many reports have such different perspectives on users' reported effects (stimulating, euphoriant, etc.), that I would recommend passing this one up as anything but a novelty.
 
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We don't refer to ourselves in third person on this forum, please read the guidelines.

I probably have some 2-DPMP laying around but opted to never try it, having far too many accounts of redosing, sleep deprivation and dangerous behavior / situations without effects that would really make up for all that (what could?).

You seemed to be surprised to be unable to sleep even though you stacked stimulants and late at night redosed desoxypipradrol that is known for keeping people awake for days on end. I can understand the urge to redose but I'm having a hard time understanding the surprise or reasoning.

Anyway thanks for reporting. It at least reminds me to keep use of uppers and downers real low.
 
Thank you for the reminder about how to write reports. I will get to it.

I studied chemistry, and specifically did SAR projects when I went to school (admittedly just for a B.S.). My surprise is overstated in the report (though it was in more recent memory, then). The dumb idea was to combine a stimulant I knew with one I didn't. However subtle 2-DPMP may have been, I stomped all over it and let it accumulate in my body with all those beautiful bulky non polar groups to the point where I felt like I needed a stimulant to remain lucid.

The hallucinations were also not like amphetamine-like at all. As stated, if I stared at something long enough, it would appear to start moving. And it was a pretty frequent visual disturbance, which was mildly concerning.

The pentedrone on day 3 was a mistake -- I had already finished my .. obligations to others for the day, I just wanted some stimulation. And I also realized from my journal that I was awake for 96 hours, not 72. Anyway, I'll go fix the first post.
 
I highly doubt that your product was 2-DPMP. Also, maybe you should avoid using the term "desoxy" for desoxypipradrol. Desoxy usually refers to desoxyephedrine, aka methamphetamine. DESOXY refers to a Shulgin creation, to top it off.

2-DPMP has an incredibly fast comeup. Cathinones also couldn't compare at all to my experience with 2-DPMP. It was very, very fast, very powerful, and lasted for 4 days. My total intake was probably about 20mg. ROAs were buccal, oral, nasal, and rectal. All were pretty much indistinguishable. I think you had bunk product - and you might as well be grateful. I spent a week in a mental hospital after 2-DPMP kept me up for 4 days straight.

Cheers.
 
Interesting. I knew about desoxy and its relations to methamphetamine (Desoxyn I think is a brand name in the states?) Just verified your comment about Shulgin's creation, thanks for the correction. I'll replace those too.
 
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