2C-B HBr/ 20mg (insufflated) + MXE, First Time Used / Melted My Face Off
I haven't used MXE very often, but I've abused DXM for about 20 years on a nearly daily basis. The first time I used MXE it didn't seem to do anything to me - but I was on a hit of acid and had used DXM recreationally about 2 days before. I carefully took up to 50mg of the MXE with no effect, then snorted another 50mg with not much to show for it - but it could have been difficult to notice the effects because of the LSD.
Recently, my friend C got some really, really high quality MXE that is almost snow-like, almost like cocaine, and is very potent. Last week he and I went and watched the movie Gravity in 3D while on 3.5g shrooms and 50mg MXE - my first time on shrooms - and it was amazing but also too intense and very, very overwhelming (especially with almost 50 people in the theater with us). While I would definitely do shrooms and MXE together again, doing it in a public theater while watching a 3D movie was probably too much. ha. C said that the MXE potentiated the trip crazily. He's a very experienced psychonaut and estimated the experience we had was somewhere above 6g equivalent of shrooms.
Yesterday my friend got 2C-B for the first time - something he'd been searching for for many months (it's the HBr version). He had been up for about 36 hours on a meth binge and had been on lots of MXE, so we agreed it was definitely a bad idea for him to try the 2C-B at that point. Impulsively, though, I thought I'd try some as an "experiment" to see how it was, since neither of us had had it before (but had read about it quite a bit).
Up to that point last night, I had:
7:30pm: 50mg MXE (oral)
8g good-quality kratom
The MXE potentiated the kratom greatly and I was getting tons of euphoria. Then:
8:30pm: 2 whippets
These were awesome, but seemed to stop the euphoria I was getting from the kratom and instead I got the awesome orgasm-type euphoria from the whippets for a long, long time. C took three whippets and more MXE. We were now out of whippets.
9:00pm: 3 hits of high-grade marijuana (Blue Dream)
10:30pm: 30mg MXE (snorted)
I was feeling pretty good at this point, and it would have been a nice end to the night, considering that C had been up for so long and yet he wasn't tired yet.
Then I suggested maybe I would try snorting about 5-10mg of 2C-B and see what it was like. C was very fucked up and tripping on MXE but he successfully weighed out 20mg of the new 2C-B for me - I was only planning on snorting a little of it, though, so I separated out a small line from what he had weighed. It was very white.
11pm: 4mg 2C-B (snorted)
It burned a bit, but not too bad. As bad as meth probably - like a hot iron nail in your nose, perhaps. Maybe not quite that bad.
within 10-15 minutes I began feeling euphoria build quite quickly. I decided to have a little more:
11:20pm: 2mg 2C-B (snorted)
the euphoria continued to build. I decided to snort a little more, this time in the other nostril:
12:00am: 6mg 2C-B (snorted)
Again, the burn wasn't too bad. The burn of my nose did seem to get worse and hurt a lot but it was OK, easily bearable. I began to hallucinate as if I were on shrooms or maybe 2 hits of LSD, but in a different way... Everything was sort of squiggling around, my vision was fuzzy. I kept thinking I must not be wearing my glasses, because everything was sort of neon fuzzy and sparkly. The euphoria was pretty good - wide spectrum.
I told C that this was what I always thought MDMA was supposed to feel like. When I took MDMA for the first time last month (150mg), I was disappointed - it was nice, but it felt like a fire of euphoria in my stomach that burned up and out, but didn't go through my whole body, and didn't seem like what people always said it was like. But this... the euphoria was wide and broad and deep. Not only through my body, but mentally: the euphoria seemed to light up areas I never knew existed in my mind and body. Whereas the euphoria of MDMA was like sparks that flecked the lower half of a glass, 2C-B seemed to be a shower of sparks that covered the whole inside of the glass. It was nothing like the warm fuzziness of opiates, but more like DXM.
12:30am: 3 more hits of Blue Dream
There was the tempting little pile of 2C-B left on the scale that I had left behind, and I kept thinking about snorting it...
I decided to snort the rest, even though I had to be home in 4 hours before my dad woke up for work. C said the duration should be 6-8 hours, which kinda worried me, but he promised he'd give me a couple of xanax to take home with me to get me asleep. Little did I know that I wouldn't need them - good thing, too, because I forgot to ask for them before I left later.
1:00am: 8mg 2C-B (snorted) (total 20mg)
I obviously crossed some sort of threshold when I snorted this last bit. I did not think it would be like this. First of all, as soon as I snorted the last 8mg 2CB, the pain was tremendous and shot up into my eye and around the orbit of my left eye (the side I snorted on) and all up the left side of my face. My nostril protested vigorously and it felt like I had been shot in the face by a gun.
As soon as I snorted it, I saw my vision on the left side of my face began to waver and then flow within 5 seconds. I looked up and saw that my entire vision was waving around and flowing like nothing I had ever, ever, seen on LSD, DXM or shrooms. Within 5 minutes the entire world was melting actively and huge portions of my vision were moving around on their own. It was quite scary but I had read somewhat about this and just rode with it.
The euphoria was cranked up so high that it almost wasn't euphoria anymore but instead this tight ball of intensity being crammed down into me. The euphoria and mood changes and internal feelings were so strong that it made me think I should be about to vomit from the intensity, but my stomach wasn't upset and I didn't. It just seemed so strong that I felt I shouldn't have been able to stand it without puking or going crazy. The whole world was actively flowing and the wide-spectrum euphoria was like nothing I've ever experienced, on opiates or anything else (I've never IVed heroin or anything like that, but snorted and plugged H before and had nothing like this).
The only thing I could compare it to in my limited experience was high doses of DXM with weed... just as far as the euphoria and the way it made my body feel. After about an hour (I guess), maybe two, the hallucinations had stopped almost completely and my nose didn't feel so much like it had been cut off and stuffed with habaneros and broken glass. It still hurt like a motherfucker, though.
But... after that first hour when the hallucinations mostly stopped, the best part of the trip came on. The body euphoria was just fucking amazing. I've never felt that type of body euphoria except with DXM - where the euphoria doesn't just flow over, in, or through your body, but seems to have delved into every fiber of your muscles - your body itself is just glowing with euphoria and the relaxation is so great that I was just laid back and melting back into my chair. I used to love how DXM would make my body feel so blissfully lethargic and with so much body euphoria etched into the very fabric of my being, every square centimeter of my physical frame deluged with such good feeling that I just can't compare it to anything else I've ever had. Opiates have nothing on this (in my experience, that is - I'm sure with enough potent opiates it might be similar or even better, don't know).
Because of my DXM abuse, I have long since lost the "magic" (psychedelia) of DXM along with all of the effects - and I mean all of them - most especially that awesome body lethargy/euphoria that I loved so much is forever gone. Now I can take 350 or even 700mg of DXM with weed and get... pretty much nothing. A little euphoria, but no robo-walk, no slurring, no magic, nothing. DXM acts like an opiate or something for me now - I just take it to feel normal and if I'm lucky I get a little euphoria. So... I've sorely missed this deep-body euphoria that I used to get only with DXM. 2C-B gave that back to me. It was freaking awesome, and the visual distortions were like something you'd see in a dream or in a movie. I've never had my vision change so drastically like that.
4:30am: I walked the half-mile home to my house alone, enjoying the body and mind euphoria so much. I felt completely lucid and open in my mind and seemed completely sober with no dilated pupils, no stumbling, or anything. When I got home, my stupid dog barked as I came in the house and then immediately I heard my dad come downstairs. It was very unexpected, but he didn't seem to notice anything and just asked me if I was okay, which I said I was.
I hadn't eaten anything for about 24 hours (except kratom and drinking coffee) so I immediately heated up some Progresso soup, unsure if I was going to be able to eat (?). but.... when I went to eat, I discovered that my taste and smell was greatly enhanced and the food tasted very awesome. I ate slowly and savored it.
5:30am: Really, after about the first hour of that intense hallucinatory episode around 1am when I snorted the rest of the 20mg 2C-B, I had been expecting that I would be very awake for a long time, sort of like on acid or something, so it was a great surprise to notice that after 2:30am or so I found myself very, very relaxed, drowsy and falling asleep. By the time I got home and ate, I was ready for bed. I didn't use any Xanax, Klonopin or anything and just laid down and fell asleep.
I woke up about 5 hours later, at 11am, feeling a bit crappy. No more psychedelic feelings, my nose was stopped up and burning, I was a bit agitated and a little anxious.
After about 2 hours from waking up, my nose was clear, my head was clear, I felt normal and not depressed or anxious. It just felt like nothing had ever happened (except my nose still burned a little bit).
I've never had my nose hurt that much from snorting something, but I would do it again. maybe not like I did, though. I will probably take 2C-B orally, then once it begins to affect me, snort about 5-10mg 2C-B to kick it up. I'm also highly interested in trying LSD, 2C-B and MDMA together, or certain other combinations with 2C-B. I wish I had saved those nitrous canisters until I was peaking on 2C-B, using them then probably would have been amazing. Oh well, there's always next time (got a couple hundred whippets coming in the mail hehe).
All in all, a very positive and uplifting experience. Once I finished snorting the whole 20mg, it was super intense and its effects were like nothing I've ever tried, but I just accepted it and tried to enjoy the most intense parts. Nothing like a high dose of shrooms and nothing like when I took 400ug of LSD (both of which were intense and amazing in their own way). After the first hour or two of snorting the final part of the 20mg, I found the whole thing very enjoyable. I couldn't believe I was concerned about staying awake for many hours after snorting it, because it was quite the opposite. Within just 2-3 hours I was so relaxed and at peace - the intensity of the trip was definitely at the very beginning. I like this stuff, but it's powerful. Good thing C got a gram of it :D
I haven't used MXE very often, but I've abused DXM for about 20 years on a nearly daily basis. The first time I used MXE it didn't seem to do anything to me - but I was on a hit of acid and had used DXM recreationally about 2 days before. I carefully took up to 50mg of the MXE with no effect, then snorted another 50mg with not much to show for it - but it could have been difficult to notice the effects because of the LSD.
Recently, my friend C got some really, really high quality MXE that is almost snow-like, almost like cocaine, and is very potent. Last week he and I went and watched the movie Gravity in 3D while on 3.5g shrooms and 50mg MXE - my first time on shrooms - and it was amazing but also too intense and very, very overwhelming (especially with almost 50 people in the theater with us). While I would definitely do shrooms and MXE together again, doing it in a public theater while watching a 3D movie was probably too much. ha. C said that the MXE potentiated the trip crazily. He's a very experienced psychonaut and estimated the experience we had was somewhere above 6g equivalent of shrooms.
Yesterday my friend got 2C-B for the first time - something he'd been searching for for many months (it's the HBr version). He had been up for about 36 hours on a meth binge and had been on lots of MXE, so we agreed it was definitely a bad idea for him to try the 2C-B at that point. Impulsively, though, I thought I'd try some as an "experiment" to see how it was, since neither of us had had it before (but had read about it quite a bit).
Up to that point last night, I had:
7:30pm: 50mg MXE (oral)
8g good-quality kratom
The MXE potentiated the kratom greatly and I was getting tons of euphoria. Then:
8:30pm: 2 whippets
These were awesome, but seemed to stop the euphoria I was getting from the kratom and instead I got the awesome orgasm-type euphoria from the whippets for a long, long time. C took three whippets and more MXE. We were now out of whippets.
9:00pm: 3 hits of high-grade marijuana (Blue Dream)
10:30pm: 30mg MXE (snorted)
I was feeling pretty good at this point, and it would have been a nice end to the night, considering that C had been up for so long and yet he wasn't tired yet.
Then I suggested maybe I would try snorting about 5-10mg of 2C-B and see what it was like. C was very fucked up and tripping on MXE but he successfully weighed out 20mg of the new 2C-B for me - I was only planning on snorting a little of it, though, so I separated out a small line from what he had weighed. It was very white.
11pm: 4mg 2C-B (snorted)
It burned a bit, but not too bad. As bad as meth probably - like a hot iron nail in your nose, perhaps. Maybe not quite that bad.
within 10-15 minutes I began feeling euphoria build quite quickly. I decided to have a little more:
11:20pm: 2mg 2C-B (snorted)
the euphoria continued to build. I decided to snort a little more, this time in the other nostril:
12:00am: 6mg 2C-B (snorted)
Again, the burn wasn't too bad. The burn of my nose did seem to get worse and hurt a lot but it was OK, easily bearable. I began to hallucinate as if I were on shrooms or maybe 2 hits of LSD, but in a different way... Everything was sort of squiggling around, my vision was fuzzy. I kept thinking I must not be wearing my glasses, because everything was sort of neon fuzzy and sparkly. The euphoria was pretty good - wide spectrum.
I told C that this was what I always thought MDMA was supposed to feel like. When I took MDMA for the first time last month (150mg), I was disappointed - it was nice, but it felt like a fire of euphoria in my stomach that burned up and out, but didn't go through my whole body, and didn't seem like what people always said it was like. But this... the euphoria was wide and broad and deep. Not only through my body, but mentally: the euphoria seemed to light up areas I never knew existed in my mind and body. Whereas the euphoria of MDMA was like sparks that flecked the lower half of a glass, 2C-B seemed to be a shower of sparks that covered the whole inside of the glass. It was nothing like the warm fuzziness of opiates, but more like DXM.
12:30am: 3 more hits of Blue Dream
There was the tempting little pile of 2C-B left on the scale that I had left behind, and I kept thinking about snorting it...
I decided to snort the rest, even though I had to be home in 4 hours before my dad woke up for work. C said the duration should be 6-8 hours, which kinda worried me, but he promised he'd give me a couple of xanax to take home with me to get me asleep. Little did I know that I wouldn't need them - good thing, too, because I forgot to ask for them before I left later.
1:00am: 8mg 2C-B (snorted) (total 20mg)
I obviously crossed some sort of threshold when I snorted this last bit. I did not think it would be like this. First of all, as soon as I snorted the last 8mg 2CB, the pain was tremendous and shot up into my eye and around the orbit of my left eye (the side I snorted on) and all up the left side of my face. My nostril protested vigorously and it felt like I had been shot in the face by a gun.
As soon as I snorted it, I saw my vision on the left side of my face began to waver and then flow within 5 seconds. I looked up and saw that my entire vision was waving around and flowing like nothing I had ever, ever, seen on LSD, DXM or shrooms. Within 5 minutes the entire world was melting actively and huge portions of my vision were moving around on their own. It was quite scary but I had read somewhat about this and just rode with it.
The euphoria was cranked up so high that it almost wasn't euphoria anymore but instead this tight ball of intensity being crammed down into me. The euphoria and mood changes and internal feelings were so strong that it made me think I should be about to vomit from the intensity, but my stomach wasn't upset and I didn't. It just seemed so strong that I felt I shouldn't have been able to stand it without puking or going crazy. The whole world was actively flowing and the wide-spectrum euphoria was like nothing I've ever experienced, on opiates or anything else (I've never IVed heroin or anything like that, but snorted and plugged H before and had nothing like this).
The only thing I could compare it to in my limited experience was high doses of DXM with weed... just as far as the euphoria and the way it made my body feel. After about an hour (I guess), maybe two, the hallucinations had stopped almost completely and my nose didn't feel so much like it had been cut off and stuffed with habaneros and broken glass. It still hurt like a motherfucker, though.
But... after that first hour when the hallucinations mostly stopped, the best part of the trip came on. The body euphoria was just fucking amazing. I've never felt that type of body euphoria except with DXM - where the euphoria doesn't just flow over, in, or through your body, but seems to have delved into every fiber of your muscles - your body itself is just glowing with euphoria and the relaxation is so great that I was just laid back and melting back into my chair. I used to love how DXM would make my body feel so blissfully lethargic and with so much body euphoria etched into the very fabric of my being, every square centimeter of my physical frame deluged with such good feeling that I just can't compare it to anything else I've ever had. Opiates have nothing on this (in my experience, that is - I'm sure with enough potent opiates it might be similar or even better, don't know).
Because of my DXM abuse, I have long since lost the "magic" (psychedelia) of DXM along with all of the effects - and I mean all of them - most especially that awesome body lethargy/euphoria that I loved so much is forever gone. Now I can take 350 or even 700mg of DXM with weed and get... pretty much nothing. A little euphoria, but no robo-walk, no slurring, no magic, nothing. DXM acts like an opiate or something for me now - I just take it to feel normal and if I'm lucky I get a little euphoria. So... I've sorely missed this deep-body euphoria that I used to get only with DXM. 2C-B gave that back to me. It was freaking awesome, and the visual distortions were like something you'd see in a dream or in a movie. I've never had my vision change so drastically like that.
4:30am: I walked the half-mile home to my house alone, enjoying the body and mind euphoria so much. I felt completely lucid and open in my mind and seemed completely sober with no dilated pupils, no stumbling, or anything. When I got home, my stupid dog barked as I came in the house and then immediately I heard my dad come downstairs. It was very unexpected, but he didn't seem to notice anything and just asked me if I was okay, which I said I was.
I hadn't eaten anything for about 24 hours (except kratom and drinking coffee) so I immediately heated up some Progresso soup, unsure if I was going to be able to eat (?). but.... when I went to eat, I discovered that my taste and smell was greatly enhanced and the food tasted very awesome. I ate slowly and savored it.
5:30am: Really, after about the first hour of that intense hallucinatory episode around 1am when I snorted the rest of the 20mg 2C-B, I had been expecting that I would be very awake for a long time, sort of like on acid or something, so it was a great surprise to notice that after 2:30am or so I found myself very, very relaxed, drowsy and falling asleep. By the time I got home and ate, I was ready for bed. I didn't use any Xanax, Klonopin or anything and just laid down and fell asleep.
I woke up about 5 hours later, at 11am, feeling a bit crappy. No more psychedelic feelings, my nose was stopped up and burning, I was a bit agitated and a little anxious.
After about 2 hours from waking up, my nose was clear, my head was clear, I felt normal and not depressed or anxious. It just felt like nothing had ever happened (except my nose still burned a little bit).
I've never had my nose hurt that much from snorting something, but I would do it again. maybe not like I did, though. I will probably take 2C-B orally, then once it begins to affect me, snort about 5-10mg 2C-B to kick it up. I'm also highly interested in trying LSD, 2C-B and MDMA together, or certain other combinations with 2C-B. I wish I had saved those nitrous canisters until I was peaking on 2C-B, using them then probably would have been amazing. Oh well, there's always next time (got a couple hundred whippets coming in the mail hehe).
All in all, a very positive and uplifting experience. Once I finished snorting the whole 20mg, it was super intense and its effects were like nothing I've ever tried, but I just accepted it and tried to enjoy the most intense parts. Nothing like a high dose of shrooms and nothing like when I took 400ug of LSD (both of which were intense and amazing in their own way). After the first hour or two of snorting the final part of the 20mg, I found the whole thing very enjoyable. I couldn't believe I was concerned about staying awake for many hours after snorting it, because it was quite the opposite. Within just 2-3 hours I was so relaxed and at peace - the intensity of the trip was definitely at the very beginning. I like this stuff, but it's powerful. Good thing C got a gram of it :D
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