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1st time Salvia x60 bad trip! Advice sought

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mikhole

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Ok I heard about saliva like 2 years ago and since then I have done my far share of drugs like ketamine<3,xtc,acid, pretty much eveything but opiets
so I experenced with drugs and thought saliva who be a walk in the park
well I got a g of x60 and was excited and I decied to do it buy my self so I packed a blow in a bong and hit. It I was standing and with in 10 sec I was gone i don't really remember to much but I got scared and got some good visuals then I triped my self out by thinkng someone was in side. And I ran out side then came in and tried to lay down but the bed I layed in was no good so I when to all the beds in the house I was really tripin my body felt like it was geting ripped apart and I felt like I was in a fake world it's hard to discribe how it felt.
I know should have had a sitter but I thought I could take it!
So beside that what did I do wrong?
Was it to much? Or I saliva really that's crazy?
Sorry if there is spelling mistakes or any thing.
 
salvia is a weird drug. Out of the probably 2 dozen times ive done it, ive never had a pleasant experience per se, but its always been interesting.

however, salvia always leaves me with more questions than answers, so i really am not a fan
 
I tried Salvia once in my apartment with a friend and it was the strangest trip I've ever taken. In under a minute I was walking down the driveway of the house I grew up in with my long-deceased mother, and on either side of the driveway there were huge screens playing my life. It was literally my life streaming before my eyes. I tried to turn around to see the things I was passing but my mother turned me around to keep going forward because as I walked my past peeled away the way wallpaper peels off of walls.

When I reached the point in the driveway (and my life) that I was presently in I didn't understand where I was and watched my mom walk forward without me. I couldn't go with her, but I almost want to take Salvia again to see if I can push that trip forward, since I've already gone backwards.
 
Salvia is a fucked up drug, most people are turned off by it. Must people don't like it, but I'd stil say it's my favorite psych for some strange reasons. Go have fun... but beware....
Plus, 60X is a bit much for a first timer. I would def. reccomend starting at a much less potent extract.

There's a lot of info about salvia in PDD
(mods) Wouldn't salvia be more of PDD material anyways?
 
To the OP, yes man salvia is a very intense and weird experience. Yours didn't even seem very intense compared to others trips some people get.

Two poster's up trip above me was an example of a pretty intense trip.
 
60x is huge for a first time... the experience would be totally overwhelming in most cases. I smoked some 25x salvia about a week or two ago, and it was very weird. The effects hit me very quickly... I was sitting on my bed, and in seconds I was lying on the floor, laughing uncontrollably, seeing weird visuals on my wallpaper, and I actually felt like I was merging into the carpet! Not unpleasant, but just very strange.
 
mikhole said:
I was really tripin my body felt like it was geting ripped apart and I felt like I was in a fake world it's hard to discribe how it felt.
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That's a pretty typical reaction for such a high dose. 60x really is too strong for a first timer - 10 or 20x would be a better bet.

I don't really think you did anything 'wrong' - high extract salvia is always a fairly terrifying experience.

I don't think many people find salvia fun or pleasant - certainly I don't. It really never ceases to fascinate me though.
 
Why does it make you scared/uncomfortable? i've only had mild trips at best off it (feeling a bit weird, very mild visuals) and even though the effects were minimal the whole time I felt really REALLY uncomfortable, almost scared..

(it does the same thign to everyone i know whos tried it, it's like smokable scaredness..)
 
all the guys i know have had weird scary shit happen, trying to run around or do shit with the world falling apart and such. the girls on the other hand seem to have had quite epic dreamlike experiences that were quite pleasant. makes me jealous but what can you do. i cant be bothered with salvia anymore personally, im over it.
 
Salvia is incredibly weird and often uncomfortable and frightening. All you did wrong was not have a sitter. It can get more intense than that if you still knew what the hell a bed was. If it is possible to get that far from ordinary perception and still move, have a sitter.
 
Sounds like salvia to me. At least you remembered what you did and such.

We've had people seeing statues with no face staring at them, someone being convinced (during the trip) that their purpose in life was to drool, and other similarly crazy things.

Salvia is not 90% happiness and sunshine like traditional (5HT2A agonist) psychedelics.
 
i would love salvia if it didnt make me feel like i was being pulled on. also makes me really hot or really cold. i would love to have an experience with screens of my life and shit though. to the guy who had that experience how much did you take. i want that.
 
mikhole said:
so I experenced with drugs and thought saliva who be a walk in the park
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That's the first and main thing you did wrong. You shouldn't make estimations like that before trying something, and it's particularly unwise to underestimate Salvia as such.

well I got a g of x60
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I'm of the value that Salvia extracts are needlessly excessive; just smoking the dried leaf gets you there. and 60x is VERY excessive.

So beside that what did I do wrong?
Was it to much? Or I saliva really that's crazy?
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Both, truthfully. Salvia really is that crazy. It's not necessarily your fault. I've gone through some pretty decimating brainwipes on Salvia, but still, overtime, get urged to return to the embrace of the Machine of Thorns that is la Pastora. You'll be okay.
 
this is a repost. I posted this in another salvia thread but it seems relevant here as well:

When I did salvia the handful of times I did it I felt as though each time I smoked it I got more and more pronounced effects. The beginning experiences were all very light and cheerful with enhanced colors and sense of oneness with everything around me. I stopped using it because the final time I used it I took 3 or 4 big bong hits in quick succession and had a life altering experience I wasn't expecting.

Like at first it was a strong feeling that someone was lurking around the corner like when you feel as though you are being followed by someone. I could feel them getting closer and closer and when they "reached me" it was like another person inhabited my body. Another more ancient person or possibly just younger. Everything was interlaced with geometric patters and colors mostly contrasting colors like white and black. A few seconds into the visuals the very fabric of everything began to break apart as if i could see all the tiny atoms that make up everything splitting apart and separating from each other. immediately after the atom separation my relative perspective of everything folded in on itself starting from my peripheral vision and folding into the center of my vision and then into itself at a point behind me, or in my head its really hard to explain. When all of the atoms flowed into me all that was left around me was far different from the surroundings i started in. It was as if i was standing in the forest; i could hear water rushing or like the sound leaves make when the wind blows really hard and in different directions. I could smell dirt and almost taste autumn air (this was probably explainable by the burnt leaf taste in my mouth) I got a strong sensation that gravity was pulling me toward the light in the room which i hallucinated was the sun and felt i was going to fall over into it and break it so i reached out for a tree next to me, in reality I slammed my hand down onto the arm of the chair to steady myself. Upon doping this i became very aware of my skeleton, I was thinking to myself "should i be able to feel every bone in my body like this?". At this point i was entirely overwhelmed by the sensations in my head and body and lost touch with reality. I was babbling nonsensical stuff and asking my friend to make it stop to have the visitor i sensed creep up on me leave. My friend asked me if i needed a hospital and i told him "NO! my girlfriend will be so pissed at me, this will be over in a minute". This caught me into a thought loop and my brain was like a skipping record. All i could say was "it'll be over in a minute" over and over again. I asked him again to help me and he didn't know what else to do so he handed me a cigarette. I don't smoke tobacco but him handing me the cigarette suddenly gave me something tangible to hold onto. I must have been mangling it cause he said "if you not gonna smoke it give it back" and i began dialogue wit him about the comfort it was giving me to have something "modern" in my hand. Eventually after what felt like an hour or more i came back down to reality, i cant really explain more than the first few minutes of the experience because it was so overwhelming i think i blacked it out, dunno maybe it causes amnesia at really high doses.
 
dude i dont understand why all you guys hallucinate on salvia but dont get completely mentally destroyed.

i mean, when i did it, (5x) i just completely lost my mind, felt like it was to be insane, n felt horrible body sensations, but no warping, colors, hallucinations, entities, gravity, nothin.

it was like I was aware, but i had no idea what anything was, including myself, then if i started thinking about that my mind would just completely destroy itself in the act of thinking sending my mind to some insane dimension, it got me by da ballz man.
 
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