Cocaine 1st Time Experience, Full of Anxiety?

[pharma-sutra]

Was offered some coke for the first time from acquaintances, they all claim it's more mellow and peak doesn't hit you straight away.

I dabbed a tiny amount and rubbed against my gums, felt a little numb within five minutes.
Then proceeded to do a 5mg bump. Not bad, slight mood lift, but nothing much.
--15 min later, sniffed 30mg line.
The product smelt like acetone (nail polish) not very strong, but could definitely smell it if held up to your nose.
Product was rocky with bits of powder, waxy, and needed a razor blade to chop it up as it would get stuck on to card (good sign?)
--t+ 5 minutes after the line, i felt very pro-social
--t+ 10 min the nostril where it went up was fairly numb, but not too intense. Still very pro-social. wanted music. wanted to talk.
--t+ 15 min fairly talkative and feeling great, mild-euphoria, I wouldn't say it was mind blowing
--t+ 30 min starting to peak, was very focused. Started to cook with my roommate
--t+ 35 min at my peak, had to take a dump. while listening to some tunes aha
--t+ 40 min anxiety starts to kick in hard, just wanted to move about, but no more pro-social effects
--t+ 50 min anxiety kicks hard, slight paranoia, felt very agitated by my roommates, told them to turn down the music
--t+ 1 hr , coming down. No harsh feeling, just didn't really want to talk anymore, slight CSN stimulation
--t+ 1 hr 15 min, comedown over. experience is over. feel a little empty, but not so bad. still experience residual stimulation

the next day, I did the same, 30mg line. experience was identical. I was just wondering, did I get something cut really bad? I did not experience any sort of ego-boost whatsoever that many seem to be so fond of, on top of that, I was experiencing extreme anxiety and some jitteriness during the peak and not the mellow and euphoric feeling that many have described be characteristic of good blow.

Is this normal for a 1st timer? do you have to be seasoned to the anxiety during peak and eventually feel this bliss and euphoria everyone is describing? or this crap cut with ephedrine or caffeine or god knows what?

any feedback is well appreciated. Thanks

actually, felt very similar to my experiences with Ethylphenidate, but...EPH at 30mg gave me even more anxiety and there was a crash/hangover from even just 30 mg. But on this "coke" i felt somewhat scatterbrained, yet focused to a certain level and no crash.

 

[Swimmingdancer]

Sounds normal to me - but different people react to cocaine very differently. Plus you never really know what's in it (you could do a purification process to try to remove some of the cuts though). I don't think having more experience with cocaine decreases how anxious you get from it, except that maybe with experience some people can find through trial and error what dose causes them the least anxiety (and/or come-down) and things like how far apart they should space their doses, or they get a tolerance. But I've seen quite a few people get more sensitive to anxiety, paranoia, and psychosis the more experienced they get with cocaine. Maybe that's just cause they were doing more though.

Can't really comment on whether your dose may have too large or not, it completely depends on how pure it is and purity varies SO much. You didn't keep redosing, so that should've at least reduced the likelihood of anxiety and paranoia, but you could just be sensitive to those effects, it happens. If it was solely due to a weird cut you would think your friends wouldn't think that batch was so mellow. Maybe they just meant relatively mellow? Or maybe they just are affected differently by it than you.

I would say if you want to try it again try a lower dose and see if that helps. You could do 2 smaller doses spaced out, but try not to get into repetitive/frequent redosing for obvious reasons. It's very hard to get "mind blowing euphoria" without adverse after-effects like anxiety, cravings for more and bad come-downs, so I wouldn't bother with trying to reach that perfect high.

Also we can't tell you whether your coke was good or how pure it was or what it could have been cut with from a description on the internet, it would just be pure speculation.

 

[Hiltoniano]

Yea I feel like the coke experience varies a lot from person to person. But your experience doesn't sound too abnormal to me at all. It's jst not your drug mate.

 

[pbuilder]

Yes cocaine produces anxiety for most during the comedown

 

[AlphaMethylPhenyl]

I agree with what people are saying. However, it still is possible that your cocaine was cut with a more "dirty" stimulant.

 

[peacelovedope]

Anxiety on the comedown seems to be common with most stims, which is why having benzos, weed, or booze on hand is a good idea if you plan on (over)indulging. I've only done coke once and it was relatively good quality as far as I could tell but honestly not worth the high price considering what you can get other stims for.

Also:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-ckIv1tiaU

 

[pharma-sutra]

thanks for the responses, but you guys are missing the point, the anxiety wasn't experienced during the comedown, but came full on DURING the PEAK
I experienced relatively easy comedown.
In fact, I tried again, same batch, 15 mg sniffed, an hour later 20 mg sniffed, again mild numbness in nose, kinda harsh on the nose (definitely not as harsh compared to sniffing EPH, mdma, amps, etc), bitter cough medicine-esque drip. However, this time the peak was bearable, and fairly enjoyable, and very mild anxiety. Peak was much more pronounced for second dose. Again, comedown was very easy to handle, however I find myself very scatter-brained when the experience is over (within 3 hours total) and left was mild residual stimulation.

ps: My pupils did not dilate whatsoever, stayed the same. This is the same when I do low-dose amps, but once I start binging and taking on higher dosages (ie: 40mg+) then I start getting dishplate pupils (as well as suffering from urinary retention, fucking hate that!)

 

[F1n1shed]

That's all coke is, and by your description it seems like some nice coke. Coke gives mild euphoria with anxiety, some people get anxiety during the high. Some get it while its wearing off, either way coke sucks.

 

[mal3volent]

For me, unless I am continually dosing (in that case its hard to even identify a "peak"), I feel at my highest within a minute or two after doing the line. Even when I've had high quality stuff its pretty much the same. The euphoria is insanely short-lived... your heart continues to race for long after but the high is pretty much gone. After a night going through 7-10 g something (thats the most I ever did in one night), the comedown would be absolutely horrendous... I don't know why you arent experiencing similar effects, my guess is because you are doing 20mg lines an hour a part.

 

[blight12]

I struggled with this for a while, I would always got anxiety with most stims (coke, mcat etc) and always had to drink alcohol with them to take the edge off and enjoy the experience. I thought this was totally normal and it is but...

Then i started good crystal meth and not knowing better i did doses and lines of similar size to the low quality coke i used to do (meaning very large doses) and it was awesome, such euphoria and no stim anxiety, wow. Anyways, eventually i figured out that the anxiety is usually an issue with lower doses and that higher doses removes this issue, hides it or whatever and thus i dose accordingly.

Now thats my experience and im not recommending you increase dosages at all Its just how i personally deal with it having done the necessary research and risk analysis. Please do the same.

Edit: Damb, forgot the topic was coke and not meth.. Anyways as swimmingdancer pointed out below, this might not work with coke, i remember being quite high and still getting anxiety but a few drinks was all that was needed.

I have had good coke once though accidentally through some rich drunk fuker at a pub and it was hardcore but i dont think i noticed any anxiety that time, to busy going nuts. It was akin to high dose meth but more active, chatty and acting insane/stupid, mate wrote his car off shortly after.

Good luck.

 

[Swimmingdancer]

thanks for the responses, but you guys are missing the point, the anxiety wasn't experienced during the comedown, but came full on DURING the PEAK

I wouldn't call 40 minutes after snorting is the peak. Cocaine should normally peak within a few minutes [edit: maybe few isn't the right word], the primary high usually only lasts around 40 min - it's strange that you felt like the peak was at 35 min. Maybe you are defining the peak differently than most? Either way, it's normal to feel anxiety at any point during the experience or afterward. I understood that you didn't feel like you had a bad comedown and that it was making you anxious while you were still high when I wrote my post above. Different people get differing degrees of anxiety and get anxiety at different times, and of course it depends how much you do and whether or not you are redosing. But it is definitely not unusual for cocaine to make people anxious or paranoid.

Coke gives mild euphoria with anxiety, some people get anxiety during the high. Some get it while its wearing off, either way coke sucks.

Agree.

Anyways, eventually i figured out that the anxiety is usually an issue with lower doses and that higher doses removes this issue, hides it or whatever and thus i dose accordingly.

It's not like that for everyone, and meth is different from cocaine. I find that lower doses of coke give me less anxiety than higher doses, so YMMV. Sounds like lower doses worked out better for the OP.

 

[pbuilder]

Cocaine overall just isn't worth it.

 

[pharma-sutra]

is it weird to say that id rather do small bumps of pv? or was it more enjoyable because i had a good amount of zolplicone and medicinal in my system?

i can never do stims as is to get any recreational value or euphoria, the anxiety and paranoia just fucks with my head to really enjoy it. so its usually a combo, amp- ket, amp-booze, amp-g, amp-benzo-booze, amp-benzo-booze-z-grass lol or pv-mxe, or my favorite pv-booze-z (yet to try pv with ket, next on my list)

maybe i should try out the blow and booze , see what the whole cocaethylene buzz is all about or am i playing with fire?

btw i've read about the levamismole thing, but I really dont see the point why cocaine producers would throw in cut right at its source? Is there such high margin of profit for doing so? why not find a cut that doesn't kill your customers. i dont know but everything just seems shady

 

[Hiltoniano]

The levamisole is definitely real. They don't really know why they use it, but a large portion of cocaine is cut with it, although in varying amounts. usually at the source.

 

[Swimmingdancer]

before that cocaine got in your hands, it has been passed through up to a dozen greedy dealers who each likely added in 5-20% of their own cut before selling it to the next guy.

This is true, street cocaine is heavily cut with who knows what.

Real high quality cocaine should require a tiny bump of like 25mg's, and have a high that is even almost sedating and relaxing, with mind blowing euphoria, and NO jittery feeling at all. In fact, pure cocaine should actually lower your heart rate for a bit right after snorting a line.

I disagree with this. Pure cocaine may feel smoother and have fewer side effects than cocaine cut with other random stimulants, but if you look at the medical literature, where they have done tests using pure pharmaceutical cocaine, the descriptions always include things like "alertness, restlessness, anxiety, paranoia, tachycardia, blood pressure elevation, potent psychomotor stimulant" etc. Cocaine itself can cause these effects, not just the cuts.

 

[blight12]

This is true, street cocaine is heavily cut with who knows what.

I disagree with this. Pure cocaine may feel smoother and have fewer side effects than cocaine cut with other random stimulants, but if you look at the medical literature, where they have done tests using pure pharmaceutical cocaine, the descriptions always include things like "alertness, restlessness, anxiety, paranoia, tachycardia, blood pressure elevation, potent psychomotor stimulant" etc. Cocaine itself can cause these effects, not just the cuts.

As far as i know meth is also know to have similar anxiety correct? Just wondering if its my experience or if it is actually known to exhibit less during the experience. Im wondering more from what people might say of the experience as I have already checked its mentioned in the warnings?

 

[Hiltoniano]

I would say meth, at least during the high itself, is calming and not anxiogenic. Although the comedown can be very anxious as well as paranoia way stronger than coke. But in general I would say coke feels alot more jittery and anxious than meth.

 

[Jackeh]

If you are wondering about the smell it was probably because of an acetone wash. Your experience does sound pretty normal for a first time though.

 

[blight12]

I would say meth, at least during the high itself, is calming and not anxiogenic. Although the comedown can be very anxious as well as paranoia way stronger than coke. But in general I would say coke feels alot more jittery and anxious than meth.

Interesting, im surprised it doesnt get more credit for this fact and more people trying it as this does make a huge difference in the experience. Makes other stims seem terrible in comparison. But yeah not worth it for sure anyways. That dose duration unfortunately makes meth a different more dangerous animal. 2 or 3 hours would make it the best stim ever for nights out and other events instead of a multi day disruptive way of life.

 

[pharma-sutra]

I wouldn't call 40 minutes after snorting is the peak. Cocaine should normally peak within a few minutes, the primary high usually only lasts around 40 min - it's strange that you felt like the peak was at 35 min. Maybe you are defining the peak differently than most? Either way, it's normal to feel anxiety at any point during the experience or afterward. I understood that you didn't feel like you had a bad comedown and that it was making you anxious while you were still high when I wrote my post above. Different people get differing degrees of anxiety and get anxiety at different times, and of course it depends how much you do and whether or not you are redosing. But it is definitely not unusual for cocaine to make people anxious or paranoid.

That is very weird, because for all three times, I did not xp the rush/peak shortly after railing. every time it would be after the drip, which is approx 5-10 min after a line. Any cut fits this speculation? All the others who were more experienced w cocaine describe the same thing, doesnt hit u in the face as soon as u take a line.