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Is this stack that Im taking a good one for cutting? it was put together by my friend. Is he a moron or is he for real......
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100mg Tren acitate 100mg masteron 250mg sus a week and some proscar for the estrogen.
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IMHO, he's not that enlightened. Sust should be taken ED or EOD. 250mg a week is low and you are wasting the product if you don't take it ED/EOD. Other than that, you have the right products to put a good cutting cycle down. You should have used prop instead of sust.
Oh, and please read the rules when asking for cycle advice please. Thank you!
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=211091
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Oh, and please read the rules when asking for cycle advice please. Thank you!
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=211091
/V
Proscar does mothing for estrogen. In fact it could make estrogen problems worse. It is a 5AR inhibitor which stops sex steroids converting to a dihydro form. the 5AR enzyme converts testosterone into DHT (DHT is the highly androgenic hormone). DHT is suspected to play a role in male pattern baldness and prostate cancer/diseases. by blocking 5AR some of the testosterone that would have been converted to DHT is could be converted to estrogen. Plus DHT by itself is a slight anti estrogen leading to an increase in theose effects.
What you need is an AI like letrozole, aromasin, etc.
Tren and Masteron are both decent cutting agents. But I'd need a lot more details about the cycle and your stats before giving any further analysis. I agree with Vic on the Sust...
What you need is an AI like letrozole, aromasin, etc.
Tren and Masteron are both decent cutting agents. But I'd need a lot more details about the cycle and your stats before giving any further analysis. I agree with Vic on the Sust...
Not with sust, IMHO. A lady friend of mine best summed it up...
You need more than 250 a week because when you go "on", your boys go "off" - they only respond to demand. If you inject your demand, they go to sleep.
Replacement test for you - like, if you were suddenly castrated and needed to have your testosterone supplemented exogenously as HRT - would likely be around 200mg/week (fellas, correct me if I got that part wrong). In order to feel an effect from a cycle, you need to take enough to completely replace your own test, PLUS go over.
So, suppose your boys put out 200mg a week. If you run a 50mg per week test cycle, your boys will drop down to 150mg a week and you'll still only have what you started with: 200mg/week.
If you run 250mg of test a week, you're shutting yourself down for what nets you a 50mg over normal test cycle.
If you're going to bother shutting yourself down, you might as well take enough to make the trouble worth your while.
/V
An average testosterone production in males is 2-11 mg/week. (it's measured in nanograms in medical settings). So 250mg/wk would be sufficient for a first cycle but like they stated above if your going to shut down your production from any amount of exogenous test then you might as well make it worth it.
An average dose for a first cycle is about 400mg/wk. Although this can be confusing cuz of the ester differences. I'll keep it short so i don't confuse.
If you run Test Enanthate (Enanthate is the ester) you only get 60% of that Testosterone cuz of the weight of the ester. Test Propionate you get 80% so that's why faster acting esters like prop are dosed less like 100mg/mL and Test Enathate is 250mg/mL. So you would want to run prop at 300mg/wk where you'd run test E at 500mg/wk.
Now Sustanon is a blend of four different testosterone esters- 30 mg propionate, 60 mg isocaproate, 60 mg phenylpropionate, 100 mg decanoate.
Anyways sorry i'm trying to hurry this but my advice would be to run test prop cuz tren acetate is very fast acting and you can plan your shots accordingly. Now if your masterone is mast prop(which i bet it is) then i'd run test prop although if sust is what you have on hand then you can run it just do all of your shots EOD.
But your friend is not an idiot a sust, tren, and masterone is a brilliant cutting cycle. As a matter of fact I couldn't think of a better one. Winstrol and Halotestin are good for cutting as well as anavar but if you have what you've listed in the first place I'd run it like this -
Sustanon - 500mg/wk (1/2cc EOD)
Masterone Prop - 200mg/wk (1/2cc EOD)
Tren Acetate - 200mg/wk (1/2cc EOD)
Important: Get yourself some Letrozole and take it throughout your cycle and into PCT. You could run a low dose of proscar cuz masterone is DHT based and if you have a history of baldness in your family then it might be worth it. but if not don;t bother. also get some hcg and/or clomid for pct to get your boys back to size. good luck hopefully you got this in time!
An average dose for a first cycle is about 400mg/wk. Although this can be confusing cuz of the ester differences. I'll keep it short so i don't confuse.
If you run Test Enanthate (Enanthate is the ester) you only get 60% of that Testosterone cuz of the weight of the ester. Test Propionate you get 80% so that's why faster acting esters like prop are dosed less like 100mg/mL and Test Enathate is 250mg/mL. So you would want to run prop at 300mg/wk where you'd run test E at 500mg/wk.
Now Sustanon is a blend of four different testosterone esters- 30 mg propionate, 60 mg isocaproate, 60 mg phenylpropionate, 100 mg decanoate.
Anyways sorry i'm trying to hurry this but my advice would be to run test prop cuz tren acetate is very fast acting and you can plan your shots accordingly. Now if your masterone is mast prop(which i bet it is) then i'd run test prop although if sust is what you have on hand then you can run it just do all of your shots EOD.
But your friend is not an idiot a sust, tren, and masterone is a brilliant cutting cycle. As a matter of fact I couldn't think of a better one. Winstrol and Halotestin are good for cutting as well as anavar but if you have what you've listed in the first place I'd run it like this -
Sustanon - 500mg/wk (1/2cc EOD)
Masterone Prop - 200mg/wk (1/2cc EOD)
Tren Acetate - 200mg/wk (1/2cc EOD)
Important: Get yourself some Letrozole and take it throughout your cycle and into PCT. You could run a low dose of proscar cuz masterone is DHT based and if you have a history of baldness in your family then it might be worth it. but if not don;t bother. also get some hcg and/or clomid for pct to get your boys back to size. good luck hopefully you got this in time!
STEROIDS4kids
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Good advise above.
Except sustanon can be injected once a week or even further apart (if used for hrt).
Like tylernys said trenbolone and masterone should be injected EOD, you can inject your 1 cc sust, twice a week, but if you have genuine karachi amps, it's difficult to split it even.
Except sustanon can be injected once a week or even further apart (if used for hrt).
Like tylernys said trenbolone and masterone should be injected EOD, you can inject your 1 cc sust, twice a week, but if you have genuine karachi amps, it's difficult to split it even.
Sust for purposes other than BB can be injected once every couple of weeks. Sust for BB, SHOULD BE injected ED or EOD, and if you do decide to use Sust, it's best used at 1g e/w to get the full effect of all the different ester based tests. If 1g is too much, and it probably is for most, use another kind of test...doesn't matter as long as it's not blended.
Test is like a fine single malt scotch....and sust is more like a blended whiskey. LOL
/V
Test is like a fine single malt scotch....and sust is more like a blended whiskey. LOL
/V
Whatchamacallit
Bluelighter
Tren (it's spelled ACETATE btw) & Masteron would have my hair gone in a few weeks time no doubt.
If you must use Sustanon it would be wise to follow V's advice and inject AT LEAST every other day. You want to avoid the yo-yo effect that once per week would cause. Keep those blood levels nice and even.
Cypionate or Enanthate esters would be better if you can get your hands on any.
If you must use Sustanon it would be wise to follow V's advice and inject AT LEAST every other day. You want to avoid the yo-yo effect that once per week would cause. Keep those blood levels nice and even.
Cypionate or Enanthate esters would be better if you can get your hands on any.
I find i get more aggressive on cyp than i do on test=e ,Think its down to more estrogen being released as imo xtra estrogen in men causes aggression,Like booze alot causes arise in estrogen and people get agressive..
WITH the masteron its like proviron in injectable form..!!
WITH the masteron its like proviron in injectable form..!!
Whatchamacallit
Bluelighter
Oh man Proviron!
OT but Deca 600/wk and Test 1g/wk with 50mg/day Proviron...HOLY SHIT!! Usually with test, anything over 800/wk and I'm shutdown pretty hard libido-wise. Let alone adding that much Deca, but that Proviron cured that and gave my wife a terrible case of bowed legs from fucking 10+ times a week. 38 weeks prego and she's gagging on my shit and taking it up the ass like a champ. Poor girl
OT but Deca 600/wk and Test 1g/wk with 50mg/day Proviron...HOLY SHIT!! Usually with test, anything over 800/wk and I'm shutdown pretty hard libido-wise. Let alone adding that much Deca, but that Proviron cured that and gave my wife a terrible case of bowed legs from fucking 10+ times a week. 38 weeks prego and she's gagging on my shit and taking it up the ass like a champ. Poor girl