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Bupe 1 month and a half off of suboxone and all opiates ?

carr90

carr90

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I have been clean for a month and a half and havent done an actual opiate in 6 months. My first question is why do i still feel so shitty from suboxone w/d ? I did taper with the suboxone. The second is if i were to take 2 hydro 7.5 would withdrawl symptons restart ? I know this is not a good idea but... Much thx for all responses.
 
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post acute withdrawal syndrome (PAWS) from sub can last months after quitting. if you take the hydro it will not restart the withdrawal, but why waste the time youve spent trying to get clean on a couple lortabs?
 
I went through the same thing! it takes a while to feel better., i felt like super duper shit after stoping opiates BUT you have to remember you have been pumping all those chemicals that make you feel good into yourself for a long time, your brain's ability to make those natural chemicals is compromised. If you were using alot then that state became "normal" for you...now the REAL "normal" feels like crap...you just have to get used to it. If u think you can take a few benzos here and there without abusing them i would say try that, it helped me..esp at night when i used to be using..and i know this sucks, but get outside and try to be active, excercise will release some endorphins that will help you feel better
AND Im almost sure two hydros wont put you into physical withdraw but mentally thats probably not a good idea...thats just me though, maybe u can handle it but if i did that i would just want more afterwards.
 
Congratulations on being clean for a month and a half, please don't through away your hard work! I know how hard it is, I was only off subutex for two weeks before I took it again with the intention of using it only for one day! Yeah right I got straight back on it because I felt so shit, now I feel really bad! Just keep up the hard work I'm sure it will get better soon. Well done again
 
yeah, try and keep it out of your mind. I've quit and re-started 6-7 times because I either just wanted to do it "one more time" or I thought I could control it.
 
comatoserct said:
yeah, try and keep it out of your mind. I've quit and re-started 6-7 times because I either just wanted to do it "one more time" or I thought I could control it.
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This is a common experience.

I will just add that if you can control it, you aren't going to be doing it, you'll just get some and save it for a really special occasion in the near to far future.

If you buy a bag and use it in the same day, that's not the same as controlling it.
 
Ha! That was always my problem. I can control it fine, as in control it right into my body as soon as I get it.
 
Don't give in to the cravings and depressive feeling......It just takes a while for your body to start producing chemicals that were replaced by the opiates/oids during use.

You WILL be back to normal and feel fine eventually, just don't relapse.
 
Thank you very much for all the positive feedback ! This deepened my love for this site, everyone who had posted a reply are speaking from personal experience and have no intention of judging. What a daily struggle it is though. I must admit as well this suboxone taper was done personally no doctors or treatment centers were involved in my sobriety. I realize some people may frown upon this. I bring up this fact just so all current opiate addicts realize that u are strong enough to do this ! If you think u can do it on your own then majority of the time u can. I'm not saying doctors and treatment centers are a bad thing, I just have to bring light to the fact that most doctors start people on massive doses of suboxone ! They draw out ur recovery a bit too much I believe but once again thank u for ur support ! I do appologize for the rambling
 
Thats so awesome man, Congrats on being sober for a month and a half.
I am currently in Methadone treatment so I can relate to the opiate struggle.

I agree that treatment centers tend to drag out your recovery a bit too much.
They would have jacked me all the way up to 100 mg of methadone daily if i would have let them.
Instead I am on half that, and I had to freak out on them in order to do this.
I was amazed at how they were so sure i needed to go up in dosage.....it made no logical sense..

anyway, take care and good luck in your recovery man
 
Well you did the right thing, u don't want to go above 100 mg of methadone and then taper. Its quite ludacris and should be looked at closely. Anyone starting to develop a habbit on a physically dependent substance stop now. It really isn't worth it and there probably thousands of addicts/recovering addicts that will back me up on that.

Peace and love from the east coast
 
I will totally back you up on that... but that's not to say I haven't relapsed.... I'm still on suboxone (1mg/Day) and I would say since I went to treatment I've had 3 or 4 short lived relapses of using something weather it be norco or roxis I basically will take whatever I can get my hands on around here... I go to meetings and I have been basically half assing it. I need to get my shit together and stay clean its just really hard to change your whole life. I bet there are a lot of people on this site that will agree with you but there are probably more who will go ahead and say fuck you you're wrong and then months/years later will come back and say I wish I would have listened to you in the first place.

I went to outpatient treatment and it was a great experience.... do you go to meetings?

Edit: I wanted to add that I got started on 12mgs of suboxone.... which for my habit was insanely high.. I probably didn't even need suboxone but at the time I thought it was a miracle drug and didn't realize the hell I would go through in getting off of it.... thats what got me into treatment was being on suboxone for about 6 months and hitting a point where I couldn't handle the taper on my own anymore because of the withdrawal/anxiety that I completely wasn't expecting. Now who knows how long I will be on sub....
 
Nah actually I haven't attended a single meeting, not that I'm against that at all it just has been important for me to do this on my own. The simple fact that I can beat this disease by myself has restored a lot of confidence that my otherwise opiate filled brain had stripped from me ! I use outlets like this to help, Bluelight is my meeting. Although I may be dodging some feelings that are hard to deal with. It is a lot easier to tell people where u have fucked up in your life without having to look them in the eye. So in that respect meetings can be very helpful. I like how you point out that people will read the warning I give and just laugh it off. That was me, "This head dosent know what he's talking about I can control it". I found out though, the drug takes over before u loose control ! By the time u realize u cannot sustain your usage of the once controllable substance, it is too late.
 
BlueLightBeam said:
Ha! That was always my problem. I can control it fine, as in control it right into my body as soon as I get it.
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Haha, so true. I used to think I had high willpower until I started doing opiates.

"oh I'll just get a few fours for next week since I have the opportunity" turns into "ah, hell, might as well do a bit tonight since I have it" turns into "shit, I might as well go all the way and do a few more" turns into "fuck it! I'm having fun I'll just do all this shit!"
 
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