‘Dode’ for a cheap high [Cananda]

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‘Dode’ for a cheap high
Gagandeep Ghuman
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7.17.08



Poppy powder, a derivative of highly addictive and illegal opium, is openly sold in some meat shops in Brampton and Mississauga.
Its use is raising questions about its legality and potentially harmful effects for those seeking an unconventional ‘high’.
Unlike opium, which oozes out as a milky substance from a lacerated poppy bud, poppy powder is made by grinding dried buds from the dried plants, sold in flower shops for decorative purposes. It's a simple process, and in recent years the powder has been increasingly popular in the burgeoning community of Indian origin west of Toronto.
Usually gulped quickly with water and then followed by tea, the poppy powder is sometimes used by truck drivers and factory workers because it increases their ability to stay awake working long hours on the job. But community leaders are worried some supplies contain potent amounts of morphine and codeine, both derivatives of opium, or are being mixed with other drugs, creating a potentially larger drug problem, particularly for youths.
"Who knows what these people are adding in the poppy husk? No one can stop them from adding any other drug," said Surjit Singh Jhabelwali, a community activist in Brampton. Jhabelwali said he became aware of the addictive problems of poppy powder while working as a lawyer in India.
Several local doctors said they are witnessing a troubling number of mostly male patients coming in with serious addictive symptoms after lengthy use of the powder, known in India as "dode". Symptoms include mood swings, constipation, impotence, body aches and, if taken in large quantities, breathing problems that can be fatal.
"The symptoms are the same as opium and, if you took what these guys are taking, you will probably die," Dr. Steven Black, of Malton Medical Group, said of those of mostly Indian origin who seek treatment. "It's very difficult to get off (dode)."
Part of the problem is how easy and cheap the powder is to buy, even though it is illegal to produce, possess or sell opium and its derivatives, except poppy seeds, without a licence from Health Canada under the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act.
At a local meat shop in Mississauga, there was no need to wink or whisper to the man behind the counter. Just one word, dode, and his hands disappeared under the counter and came up with a plastic bag of almond-coloured powder— $10 for 10 grams, $20 for 20 grams. Asked if it was any good, he replied: "I have been selling it for 16 years now, no worries." He later said he was under the impression it was legal to sell.
Down the road at another meat shop the owner, a barrel-chested man with gold chains around his neck, promised he could take customers to highs his competition can only dream of. "This is the genuine thing," he said, handing over a powder-filled bag. "We used to get it from Afghanistan and Europe, earlier, but now it comes from Arizona."
A sample of the powder purchased was sent to a commercial lab, which reported a "strong positive" for codeine and morphine, enough drug to "get a person high". An equal amount of crushed poppy seeds yielded a like dose of morphine, but less codeine.
Dr. Kuldip Kular, the MPP for Brampton-Gore-Malton-Springdale and a physician, said community members have asked him several times to push for a ban on dode.
Philippe Laroche, a Health Canada spokesperson, said unless authorized, possession of opium or any of its derivatives— including crushed poppy buds— has been prohibited for years. He said the agency had no data on the health effects of eating powdered poppy.
Media relations Const. Wayne Paterson said Peel police did consult Health Canada on the powder in an earlier probe but was told too little opium was present to lay charges. But, Paterson added: "If we find out these people are taking the poppy plant and adding a chemical substance to it, then we will investigate. Crushed poppies alone is not opium."
"This is absolutely illegal," countered Dr. Peter Facchini, the Canada research chair in plant biotechnology at the University of Calgary. "All the police have to do now is to send the sample to a lab and they will find enough morphine and codeine to make an arrest."
— Torstar News Service

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A bit of time ago, some guy posted a thread about this in OD. He said he went to an Indo-Pak store and bought ground up pods. He even posted photos. There was a huge debate in the thread, about what it really was. I think he mislabeled it as opium...


If anybody remembers what I'm talking about, and is motivated enough to search for the thread, please post a link to it here.
 
I remember the thread. Seems like the poster was accused of various combinations of stupidity and dishonesty for claiming he had seen and/or purchased "Opium" at indian owned stores in Canada.

Off topic: I was amazed in the early 1990's when I read the book "Opium for the Masses" by Jim Hogshire and discovered that "real opium poppy" could be purchased at dried flower outlets. I am more amazed to read that they are still sold via the web.
 
that article was soo horrid i dont know where to begin..

Usually gulped quickly with water and then followed by tea, the poppy powder is sometimes used by truck drivers and factory workers because it increases their ability to stay awake working long hours on the job.
Who drinks water w/ poppy juice & THEN tea?
Opiates keep you awake now??


"Who knows what these people are adding in the poppy husk? No one can stop them from adding any other drug," said Surjit Singh Jhabelwali, a community activist in Brampton.

Wait, is this dude trying to claim that people throw drugs into poppy powder? IMO the same applies to that as does
"lacing marijuana". anyone care to explain?
 
Well don't blame the author, it was clearly written by someone from the community (look at the link).

On another note, I plan to find out about this in person, since it's just a 1/2 hour drive for me. ;)
 
So is 'dode' simply fine ground pod material?

Or is it refined a bit?

Cause the picture of the 'dode' in the thread I linked does not look like just crushed pod material.
 
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I think it's just ground pod material. I mean, I guess it could be diluted... Looks exactly what I'd expect to get if I ground them up in an electric grinder.
 
FrostyMcFailure said:
Who drinks water w/ poppy juice & THEN tea?
Opiates keep you awake now??

Yes. It depends on the dose and current tolerance of course, but I know there are plenty of times where a bag will wake me up and make me feel like being up if I'm tired. This is also true if I'm WDing or slightly WDish.

With the poppy tea it seems like it would be harder to hit the sweet spot with taking it orally and not knowing how potent it is.
 
Pods are slightly stimulating, especially if you have any tolerance at all.
 
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