Tryptamines Post intense changa experience

[cloaks]

I just wanted to share some thoughts on a changa experience that was wayyyyyy more intense than expected. Truly chaotic.

I made this changa a few weeks back with a kinda crappy scale for measuring the DMT and I just tried it out, jesus christ did it get intense. To a level I have never experienced before. It consists of DMT, mullein leaf and passionflower.

I now understand what people are talking about regarding the beings that want to show you things. I cannot really say how the one I saw looked like, just that it was there pointing at something in hyperspeed and I think it was trying to make me to not forget to breath lol.

Even though it was something way beyond what I was expecting in intensity, I did enjoy the ride. I was sitting outside in my garden in sunny weather and when I could open my eyes again the visuals were simply amazing, everything looked really alien and foreign but it did not scare me luckily.

The only thing I would say was a negative was the part regarding the breathing - I think I forgot to breath properly a while after I exhaled the changa which did bring some physical anxiety but I would not say I was ever scared, like a bad part of a acid/shroom trip can get you.

It was just crazy intense and confusing. Cool stuff!

OT: I don't really like smoking in general since I do have asthma and I think I will look into the e-mesh method I have read is a good way to instead vape it, any advice appreciated.

 

[Shipurata]

As an asthmatic myself, vaping with a stainless steel emesh gives me a lot of lung discomfort and coughing. I also noticed increased wheezing after vaping DMT this way a few times, which prompted me to stop. An asthmatic friend had a similar experience.

I want to try the oral + MAOI route instead next, I'm so done with vaping tryptamines.

I found DPT snorted or plugged a good substitute for DMT, however. It's 45 mins of blastoff and intense otherworldly stuff, followed by a few hours of gentle landing & a more conventional trip. It's a good experience if you respect the substance, let go and know what you're getting into.

I feel like a lot of people have bad trips with DPT because they're not ready for such a trip, but it can take you places DMT cannot.

 

[cloaks]

I want to try the oral + MAOI route instead next, I'm so done with vaping tryptamines.

I really feel that. Me smoking changa is the only smoking I do these days and even though the positives with the experience outweigh the negatives, I would much rather go the oral route. Have been wanting to do that for a while, so thanks for sharing your experience with vaping! I will now not look into that any longer

I will stick with changa for now and try to figure out the way to do oral + MAOI route properly.

My "problem" is inexperience, only having tried Syrian Rue tea (had too much, horrible bodyload) and then smoking some DMT, so not even a true oral experience. A very different experience in general from smoking changa imo, more dreamlike with a darker tone to it.

I do have some red ayauhasca (muricata) but have not gotten around trying it yet - I've read that people seem to prefer it over Syrian Rue.

I found DPT snorted or plugged a good substitute for DMT, however. It's 45 mins of blastoff and intense otherworldly stuff, followed by a few hours of gentle landing & a more conventional trip. It's a good experience if you respect the substance, let go and know what you're getting into.

DPT sounds very interesting, can it be extracted at home like with Mimosa or is it more commonly bought online?

 

[Didgital]

Yeah changa can get you. Tho, passionflower is such a weak source of MAOI I'm not sure I'd call it changa even if you're smoking passionflower extract.

My craziest changa experience me and 2 roommates were in a hot tub, each would basically make sure no one was passing out/drowning, but for me visually a saw a pink bubble floating above us that had tubes connected to our mouths, and when each of us breathed in or out, the pink bubble would expand contract. Ofc, I was the only one who saw it.

REALLY trippy shit.

 

[Shipurata]

I really feel that. Me smoking changa is the only smoking I do these days and even though the positives with the experience outweigh the negatives, I would much rather go the oral route. Have been wanting to do that for a while, so thanks for sharing your experience with vaping! I will now not look into that any longer

I will stick with changa for now and try to figure out the way to do oral + MAOI route properly.

My "problem" is inexperience, only having tried Syrian Rue tea (had too much, horrible bodyload) and then smoking some DMT, so not even a true oral experience. A very different experience in general from smoking changa imo, more dreamlike with a darker tone to it.

I do have some red ayauhasca (muricata) but have not gotten around trying it yet - I've read that people seem to prefer it over Syrian Rue.



DPT sounds very interesting, can it be extracted at home like with Mimosa or is it more commonly bought online?

DPT is a research chemical, and pure DPT powder can be bought online. It's not metabolised by MAO as rapidly so it is orally/nasaly/etc active without MAOI.

 

[cloaks]

Yeah changa can get you. Tho, passionflower is such a weak source of MAOI I'm not sure I'd call it changa even if you're smoking passionflower extract.

My craziest changa experience me and 2 roommates were in a hot tub, each would basically make sure no one was passing out/drowning, but for me visually a saw a pink bubble floating above us that had tubes connected to our mouths, and when each of us breathed in or out, the pink bubble would expand contract. Ofc, I was the only one who saw it.

REALLY trippy shit.

That does sound trippy and like a great time lol

Do you have any suggestions on what to add instead or in addition to passion flower for better MAOI properties?

 

[cloaks]

DPT is a research chemical, and pure DPT powder can be bought online. It's not metabolised by MAO as rapidly so it is orally/nasaly/etc active without MAOI.

Interesting, thanks!