Kava for relaxation/MAT/anxiety/cravings

[pnillyg]

What do we think about Kava Kava weather that be extracts or powder or nectar. Is there levels that actually help/ I’m new to kava and struggle with opiate and benzo addiction.. I’ve had minor effects so I know there’s something there. Just got a new extract nectar powder called Kava Hana. Drank one this morning felt kind of like matcha. Says stimulating though I noticed after I drank I guess some are more relaxing? Anyways looking for relaxation and ease of thoughts without narcotics. Please send experience with kava and other recommendations. Currently also experimenting with amnita muscaria and valerian root as well as California poppy. Pease and love

 

[lecroute]

Hi. I used kava before I used anything else. I got from almalternative medicine doctor and ended up liking it very much because of its sedating effect. It was a liquid, I guess extract dissolved in alcohol and whatnot. Though the amount I had to take for it to show any effect was higher than what the doctor or the indications on the box recommended.

That's a long time ago, and I would like to try it again. But because I'm not sure of what's the best / most efficient form I'm curious of what others have to say. More so because by now I've been taking benzos for over 4 years and doubt I will get the same results from kava. But maybe it will help me keep my dosage down.

I started drinking Valerian root broth (I call it this because it looks like a witcht's pot when I prepare it). I haven't noticed any big effects, but somehow I think it's a question of how much and for how long. I ran out of the root trunk, but will definitely buy more.

 

[Juicewrldfan]

I think Kava would be better. It’s stronger anxiolytic wise ime. I normally don’t recommend this but the kava sub Reddit is actually pretty decent and their faq page is really all you need.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

What do we think about Kava Kava weather that be extracts or powder or nectar. Is there levels that actually help/ I’m new to kava and struggle with opiate and benzo addiction.. I’ve had minor effects so I know there’s something there. Just got a new extract nectar powder called Kava Hana. Drank one this morning felt kind of like matcha. Says stimulating though I noticed after I drank I guess some are more relaxing? Anyways looking for relaxation and ease of thoughts without narcotics. Please send experience with kava and other recommendations. Currently also experimenting with amnita muscaria and valerian root as well as California poppy. Pease and love

An experiment with Erythrina Mulungu would fit right in. Or an extract, but my latest batch does look like it but in effect's isn't remotely as effective. maybe inactive.

It used to be a very clean sleepaid to me. Not anything like a Benzo or GHB or even Melatonin. Last publication's show it has anti-convulsant, anti-anxiety, anti depressive effect's and is imo the best sleep aid I ever took. No after effect's, no supression of REM sleep and no morning grogginess.

 

[Kaoririp]

I have been using kava often recently. I prepare it myself into a drink from the root in it's powdered form. It's effects are physical as well as mental. There is a noticeable relaxation and carelessness around your physcial movements, almost as if feeling more 'free'. That definitely does remind me of the muscle relaxation effects from a opiate/benzo buzz. The mental stuff is nice too but there are different varieties of the the root, coming from different regions, that have an impact. A bit like marijuana strains. Some kava is very sedating and its the sort of thing you would drink in the evening and then sleep. Alternatively, sometimes it could cause more of a talkative, social, stimulating euphoric effect. As a person that likes benzos quite a lot, I would not say this is comparable to their effects. However, kava is a big step in the right direction - in my opinion.

 

[cdin]

love me some kava for both of these issues

 

[Pickledlemons]

I take kava for sleep when I'm out of other things to help with sleep. I'm pretty sure it does something... but there's always a chance its a placebo, Not really sure. Anything that tastes that nasty has to do something... right... guys?

 

[cdin]

I take kava for sleep when I'm out of other things to help with sleep. I'm pretty sure it does something... but there's always a chance its a placebo, Not really sure. Anything that tastes that nasty has to do something... right... guys?

people don't base tens of thousands of years of a culture on placebo. A lot of kava you get outside of hawaii/pacific islands IS trash tho. but when you find some good material, there is zero denying the psychoactivity.

 

[Snafu in the Void]

95% of the Kava I've bought over the last 15 years has been absolute trash, but there is some stuff I've had that was good. I get why people like it. It has an interesting "dimorphism" of effects like kratom does. There are stimulating strains and sedating strains.

It does not have reinforcing or addictive effects like kratom.

However, I think if you have an active dependence on other GABAergics like benzos or alcohol, you aren't going to feel much from kava except for it's heady stimulating euphoric effect, which only lasts about an hour or so.

My main deterrence is that it is quite hard on the liver... I can feel that if I dose heavy or take it for more than a day or two.

Shitty kava always gives me a headache, too.

but it is certainly very psychoactive, I have felt a GABA high from it that was definitely not placebo.

 

[cdin]

95% of the Kava I've bought over the last 15 years has been absolute trash, but there is some stuff I've had that was good. I get why people like it. It has an interesting "dimorphism" of effects like kratom does. There are stimulating strains and sedating strains.

It does not have reinforcing or addictive effects like kratom.

However, I think if you have an active dependence on other GABAergics like benzos or alcohol, you aren't going to feel much from kava except for it's heady stimulating euphoric effect, which only lasts about an hour or so.

My main deterrence is that it is quite hard on the liver... I can feel that if I dose heavy or take it for more than a day or two.

Shitty kava always gives me a headache, too.

but it is certainly very psychoactive, I have felt a GABA high from it that was definitely not placebo.

actually, i prefer it w other GABA agents - it quite noticeably potentiates just about every GABA agent ime.