Silverfox
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That does sound strange as mdai is normally more of a relaxant than a stimulant. I don't suppose you have tested it?
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That does sound strange as mdai is normally more of a relaxant than a stimulant. I don't suppose you have tested it?
i dont think its active that route because it wont disolve, may be wrong tho
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No, I didn't test it. It came from a legit vendor (one of the big 5s from whom I got a sample of 6-APB, so I trusted him completelly).
Actually it might be just me but the main feeling is that it gets me nervous, kind of a light stimulant buzz, sort of a caffeine buzz. I can't find it relaxant at all. It's pretty pointless to me. I just did my houseworks and I had a slight higher mood, but also some tension wich is not gone yet.
So I'm trashing the rest of it.
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well remember the batch of dark brown (coffe ground) loking mdai i recieved? just put it in some capsules before i go out and... it disolved them a little bit...
should i still try them on? a bit afarid they might do that to my gut.. any way to test?
was thinking that it might be that the substance is an acid so it dissolves the capsule like the one in the stomach would...
added after 5 hours:
- well i just had to try it. ingested the 200mg i had set in capsules, that is the regular dose i use with the tan one i had earlier. Slight stomach ache after about 1 hour, nothing too serious, but different than the usual, more like erosion... not looking good. Had a lot of liquids with it, and it didnt get any worse, however, though after 1 hour, maybe more i felt something, definelty nothing like the tan mdai i had before. not even close. might just trash the rest. though i have a lot left... maybe illt ry refining it?
this is just a warning, dark dark mdai - might just suck and give you stomach ache.
should i still try them on? a bit afarid they might do that to my gut.. any way to test?
was thinking that it might be that the substance is an acid so it dissolves the capsule like the one in the stomach would...
added after 5 hours:
- well i just had to try it. ingested the 200mg i had set in capsules, that is the regular dose i use with the tan one i had earlier. Slight stomach ache after about 1 hour, nothing too serious, but different than the usual, more like erosion... not looking good. Had a lot of liquids with it, and it didnt get any worse, however, though after 1 hour, maybe more i felt something, definelty nothing like the tan mdai i had before. not even close. might just trash the rest. though i have a lot left... maybe illt ry refining it?
this is just a warning, dark dark mdai - might just suck and give you stomach ache.
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Silverfox
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No, I didn't test it. It came from a legit vendor (one of the big 5s from whom I got a sample of 6-APB, so I trusted him completelly).
Actually it might be just me but the main feeling is that it gets me nervous, kind of a light stimulant buzz, sort of a caffeine buzz. I can't find it relaxant at all. It's pretty pointless to me. I just did my houseworks and I had a slight higher mood, but also some tension wich is not gone yet.
So I'm trashing the rest of it.
It sounds like it has something else mixed in it, there was a post somewhere reporting on the results of testing samples that had been bought online and very few were actually what they claimed. I bought white mdai and it tested for something else altogether. It is sad that you can't get pure mdai because it is worthwhile on its own and great in combos.
I tried this way and got good results but:
- I washed and recrystalized, this wa I was sure what I had was 100% water soluble
- I used 50mg but I used a potentiator
And as a side note it's quite painful to insufflate, not like hell but still. Also had a runny nose for like 3 days after, which has been reported by at least another BLer.
hi everybody.. i've read most of the thread and, as a long time rc user i've never seen a chemical that comes out in white, brown and tan color like this..
also, as far as i read, white stuff may even be another stimulant with opposite effects(stimulationg rather than sedating)
btw,i've got the brown(dark brown or dark tanned) powder, HCL, but it is identical to the freebase sold before, that was active at 100mg;
the vendor provides the spectrum analisis..but i guess they're fake if it was found(as someone posted some pages ago) <50% purity.
i've read about washing mdai from impurities, using hexane(or heptane);
is there any other easy-to-find solvent that can be used to wash away the impurities?
and what's the real color of pure mdai? light tan ?
thanks
also, as far as i read, white stuff may even be another stimulant with opposite effects(stimulationg rather than sedating)
btw,i've got the brown(dark brown or dark tanned) powder, HCL, but it is identical to the freebase sold before, that was active at 100mg;
the vendor provides the spectrum analisis..but i guess they're fake if it was found(as someone posted some pages ago) <50% purity.
i've read about washing mdai from impurities, using hexane(or heptane);
is there any other easy-to-find solvent that can be used to wash away the impurities?
and what's the real color of pure mdai? light tan ?
thanks
Hey guys!
Forum writing virgin but have been reading posts for a little while now.
Basicly need some advice from people who know more than me about this kind of stuff!
Have done some experimenting with basic drugs with good and bad experiences but like many people, loved the meph when it was legal and although am a little glad it's gone from an addiction point of view, also miss it.
Am amoung many who are looking for a similar high but do not really know people to get the usual street drugs from so legal chemicals for me only!
Recently ordered a gram of MDAI (white) which have tried now for two days running with very dissapointing effects, resisting the urge to do line after line as am frustated but aware it can be slow to come up on!
Have had mild effects but really it is not the sort of high I am looking for, need more of a stimulant RC I think.
Anyway, after a long winded introduction I will finally get to my question which is a recommendation of a drug I can combine with the remainder of my MDAI to get more effect?
It needs to be easily accessiable online but have heard some of the most easy to get hold of i.e. NRG etc are not great and I don't want to be dissapointed again!
Also if there is another RC that is similar to coke on it's own I would love to know? And I know this makes me sound like a dirty skank, but I loved drugs you can snort ideally.
Thanks for listening to my ramble and yes I am aware of my overuse of a certain punctation mark!
Forum writing virgin but have been reading posts for a little while now.
Basicly need some advice from people who know more than me about this kind of stuff!
Have done some experimenting with basic drugs with good and bad experiences but like many people, loved the meph when it was legal and although am a little glad it's gone from an addiction point of view, also miss it.
Am amoung many who are looking for a similar high but do not really know people to get the usual street drugs from so legal chemicals for me only!
Recently ordered a gram of MDAI (white) which have tried now for two days running with very dissapointing effects, resisting the urge to do line after line as am frustated but aware it can be slow to come up on!
Have had mild effects but really it is not the sort of high I am looking for, need more of a stimulant RC I think.
Anyway, after a long winded introduction I will finally get to my question which is a recommendation of a drug I can combine with the remainder of my MDAI to get more effect?
It needs to be easily accessiable online but have heard some of the most easy to get hold of i.e. NRG etc are not great and I don't want to be dissapointed again!
Also if there is another RC that is similar to coke on it's own I would love to know? And I know this makes me sound like a dirty skank, but I loved drugs you can snort ideally.
Thanks for listening to my ramble and yes I am aware of my overuse of a certain punctation mark!
terminator
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m8 forget that white shite, the stuff you need is the light brown fine powder you cant snort it but you dont need to, best rc at the mo. not much come down nice chatty buzz, much better than that shite street coke i do more than the recomended dose with no problems, find a better vender you wont be disappointedps look for wot the princess had to kiss hope this helps.
ps look for wot the princess had to kiss hope this helps.same thing:
same dark brown stuff, had stomach ache most of the time. but there were some regular mdai effects.although never tried the tan stuff..so i don't know
i am still trying to find a proper method to purify it
Holy Shit
IMPORTANT: What I took and mixed could be extremely dangerous, I am alright, but please don't try to replicate what I did or it could end very badly for you. I started slow with this stuff to find my limits, yours are likely very different. I have heard of people having life threatening reactions on less.
Whoever said that this stuff (tan, the real thing as far as I am able to tell) wasn't addictive or strong?
I posted before about brain zaps for nearly a week after taking 'definitely less' than 500mg over 2 nights. Turns out after measuring I took about 700mg over 2 nights.
I took some last night and tried to document it. 300 odd mg's left, so I divided it in two and thought, 'ok, leave half for some other time'. Previously in the day I had taken 3 different types of prescription benzos (a fair bit) and a muscle relaxant. Here is what I wrote:
consumed approximately 140mg at 12:30am on an empty stomach
1:15 - feeling a bit 'dreamy' and relaxed
1:20 - enjoying music, my vision is starting to change a bit. feeling very comfortable. things in my field of vision appear to be shifting. noticing definite
trails. enjoyed a cigarette. things appear clearer. some nystagmus. pleasant head tingles. some trouble swallowing. strange. 2:00 pleasant full body feeling, especially when relaxing.
stretching felt amazing. some time dilation. dry mouth. feeling of well being.
2:30 vision seems slightly more normal. Sublingual 2mg lorazepam.
3:10 effects seem to be wearing off, kind of sad. I smoke a few pinches of syrian rue (a reversible MAOI - WATCH OUT DOING THIS), and chew up two 50mg (edit - they are 100mg caps) 5 htp tablets. 3:40: a few more pinches of syrian are smoked.
more rue is smoked, and the rest of the MDAI is taken over a period of time. pronounced nystagmus
DIRECT QUOTE:
now and okeasant tingles
:30 I definitely feel is more stonhku
if I lay I am ina confrtanle played to please I'robrt\/ Smokeda few more pinkwa od
I slip brtweemf can't writenow.
I must have been a bit delerious or something. I don't know how many times I drifted off then put my fingers to my mouth thinking there was a cigarette there, but there was nothing.
I finished the whole 300mg, along with I don't know how much 5-htp and smoked syrian rue. I went walking several times (with a fractured foot from a few days ago and no crutches), and the entire time I could deal with people perfectly fine.
I woke my friend up at 8:00am and smoked a joint. I could drift INTO my body and everything would be super clear, or drift out of my body into a disassociated like state.
I bought some n20. Licked the hell out of the bag of MDAI, and lay in bed (at about 10:30am). I would do about two chargers, then sort of 'black out' and wake back up. Sometimes with a great body buzz. At some point I passed out.
When I woke up, my bed was COVERED with what I can only assume is piss, and I had a half filled n20 charger.
When the MDAI first kicked in it felt amazing to me, and I kept wanting to get higher.
Headlight
IMPORTANT: What I took and mixed could be extremely dangerous, I am alright, but please don't try to replicate what I did or it could end very badly for you. I started slow with this stuff to find my limits, yours are likely very different. I have heard of people having life threatening reactions on less.
Whoever said that this stuff (tan, the real thing as far as I am able to tell) wasn't addictive or strong?
I posted before about brain zaps for nearly a week after taking 'definitely less' than 500mg over 2 nights. Turns out after measuring I took about 700mg over 2 nights.
I took some last night and tried to document it. 300 odd mg's left, so I divided it in two and thought, 'ok, leave half for some other time'. Previously in the day I had taken 3 different types of prescription benzos (a fair bit) and a muscle relaxant. Here is what I wrote:
consumed approximately 140mg at 12:30am on an empty stomach
1:15 - feeling a bit 'dreamy' and relaxed
1:20 - enjoying music, my vision is starting to change a bit. feeling very comfortable. things in my field of vision appear to be shifting. noticing definite
trails. enjoyed a cigarette. things appear clearer. some nystagmus. pleasant head tingles. some trouble swallowing. strange. 2:00 pleasant full body feeling, especially when relaxing.
stretching felt amazing. some time dilation. dry mouth. feeling of well being.
2:30 vision seems slightly more normal. Sublingual 2mg lorazepam.
3:10 effects seem to be wearing off, kind of sad. I smoke a few pinches of syrian rue (a reversible MAOI - WATCH OUT DOING THIS), and chew up two 50mg (edit - they are 100mg caps) 5 htp tablets. 3:40: a few more pinches of syrian are smoked.
more rue is smoked, and the rest of the MDAI is taken over a period of time. pronounced nystagmus
DIRECT QUOTE:
now and okeasant tingles
:30 I definitely feel is more stonhku
if I lay I am ina confrtanle played to please I'robrt\/ Smokeda few more pinkwa od
I slip brtweemf can't writenow.
I must have been a bit delerious or something. I don't know how many times I drifted off then put my fingers to my mouth thinking there was a cigarette there, but there was nothing.
I finished the whole 300mg, along with I don't know how much 5-htp and smoked syrian rue. I went walking several times (with a fractured foot from a few days ago and no crutches), and the entire time I could deal with people perfectly fine.
I woke my friend up at 8:00am and smoked a joint. I could drift INTO my body and everything would be super clear, or drift out of my body into a disassociated like state.
I bought some n20. Licked the hell out of the bag of MDAI, and lay in bed (at about 10:30am). I would do about two chargers, then sort of 'black out' and wake back up. Sometimes with a great body buzz. At some point I passed out.
When I woke up, my bed was COVERED with what I can only assume is piss, and I had a half filled n20 charger.
When the MDAI first kicked in it felt amazing to me, and I kept wanting to get higher.
Headlight
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Brian.Badonde
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WHITE MDAI WARNING - STAY AWAY FROM IT.
I have tested White MDAI, and the Brown MDAI and I can conclusively say that I experienced very different effects.
I tried the White MDAI from 2 different vendors
The Brown MDAI is the real stuff.
The White MDAI felt a bit like MDAI, but more like dimethocaine. I got extreme shortness of breath, agitation, anxiety, etc. I do NOT get this on the brown MDAI. This shows that the white MDAI is most likely cut with a stimulant.
From my research the White MDAI feels like 25% MDAI, 75% stimulant (such as dimethocaine).
Because its white its easy for dealers to throw their other junk chemicals with it that aren't selling.
There are many reports in this thread of people having bad times with the white MDAI and many users saying they tried both and the brown is the real deal.
I have binned my white MDAI and I am re-ordering the proper Brown stuff.
I seriously love the brown MDAI. it is by far my favorite legal high.
I have tested White MDAI, and the Brown MDAI and I can conclusively say that I experienced very different effects.
I tried the White MDAI from 2 different vendors
The Brown MDAI is the real stuff.
The White MDAI felt a bit like MDAI, but more like dimethocaine. I got extreme shortness of breath, agitation, anxiety, etc. I do NOT get this on the brown MDAI. This shows that the white MDAI is most likely cut with a stimulant.
From my research the White MDAI feels like 25% MDAI, 75% stimulant (such as dimethocaine).
Because its white its easy for dealers to throw their other junk chemicals with it that aren't selling.
There are many reports in this thread of people having bad times with the white MDAI and many users saying they tried both and the brown is the real deal.
I have binned my white MDAI and I am re-ordering the proper Brown stuff.
I seriously love the brown MDAI. it is by far my favorite legal high.
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Agreed. The BBC reported just today that they purchased MDAI from several online sources in the UK and had them analysed by a toxicologist professor at a university. None of the samples contained MDAI at all, in fact they were "an unknown chemical that his team had never seen before."
This is precisely why the UK should (an probably will soon) have a blanket ban on all "legal highs". Greedy UK internet vendors with absolutely no conscience whatsoever are going to be killing people soon enough.
Silverfox
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I don't think that a lot of the white mdai is cut, I don't think it contains any mdai at all, and unfortunately a lot of the brown/tan mdai now available is also very impure and contains insoluble impurities.
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