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I recently read an amusing book by Marco Vassi called "The Stoned Apocalypse" and there was a part about hippies on early forms of the raw foods diet, vegetarians, vegans, fruitarians, and Macrobiotic diets who would fight amongst each other saying how their diet was the best, they were supposedly very pious and strict about adhering to these diets and then they'd get high and cheat!

Has anyone here ever tried any of these diets or do you follow them? If so why or why not?

I tried cutting out red meat out of my diet and this worked fine and then I was going to cut out chicken, turkey, and pork but that did not happen. Even still to this day I do not eat a lot of red meat or meat in general. I eat some but I eat more vegetables and fruit. I do not eat bacon and I rarely eat eggs. I drink milk but just in 1-2 cups of coffee that I drink daily. I sometimes eat cheese and I eat yogurt.
 
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I'm currently a vegetarian. I wont eat factory farmed meat for reasons that are hopefully obvious. I considered buying grass fed pastured bison until I discovered that the same farm also sold veal, which means they kill infants, which I dont want to support. The clincher was when I tried to buy lobster thinking I wouldn't have problems eating it since lobsters are constantly eating other fish and crustaceons, but in the end couldn't bring myself to kill them so I returned them. I feel its a cop out/kind of cowardly to eat animals if you cant kill them yourself, so I'm refraining from eating meat until when or if that time ever comes. I think I could kill to eat in a life or death situation, but thats not where I find myself right now at all. Eggs and dairy are another story, I wouldn't have problems milking a cow/stealing an un-fertalized egg. I try to buy free range.
 
I have recently gone back to a 80% raw vegan diet, meaning that I eat uncooked fruits, vegetables, nuts, seeds and seaweed. The other 20% is "comfort food" like cooked lentils, rice, unprocessed soy, etc.

I have lived on a 100% raw vegan diet several years ago for over a year, and was in optimum health (I could run without feeling the least bit tired for as long as I wanted). I never had issues with protein in the past, as different foods have different enzymes, and as long as you are eating a variety of fruits, vegetables, nuts and seeds (don't just chow down on almonds, mix in some sunflower kernels, or sesame seeds, or flax seed) you will not become protein deficient. Our body only needs 10% of our caloric intake to be protein, and that is for athletes. Non-athletes can do fine with as low as 4% of their caloric intake being protein; just make sure you are getting complete protein with that 4% (it's all about combination). Also, as far as vitamin D intake is concerned, the answer is obvious... get out in the sun, however if you have an absorption problem, then supplement. However, the only flaw of this diet is that you do not get adequate vitamin b-12. Just supplement that, and you're fine. The only reason I switched back to an omnivore diet was because I didn't have a job, and beggars can't be choosers.

Since I have gone from a heavy meat, dairy & starch diet to a whole-foods based raw vegan diet with a slight emphasis on leafy green vegetables and nuts, I have more mental clarity than ever. Also, I no longer have directionless feelings of aggression (not consuming animal-based hormones). And, instead of feeling full, I simply feel rejuvenated when I eat. This has happened in the first week of this diet. I'm not sure if this will happen to everyone, but I have no reason to lie, and I don't wish to argue any tenants of this diet. I feel that each person's diet is their own business and I am only chiming in because I like talking about it. :)
 
I am currently a Vegan and have been for a few months now. I used to be a Vegetarian and was one for five years. I am currently flirting with the idea of going raw.

I went Vegetarian (at 16) because of working as a cashier in a supermarket that didn't package their meats very well--The juices getting on my hands, along with seeing meat in its raw form every day was enough to make me want to cut it from my diet. Key words: Want to. What finally made me do it was when my grandma cooked chicken a different way every day for two weeks. I proclaimed that after the first of November (it was near there), I wasn't going to eat chicken anymore. My grandma said that I would eat the food that she prepared, or make my own, and that I wouldn't last a week without chicken (and food cooked for me). I said I would last two. She said I wouldn't last three. By this point, I was really pissed. I got so angry and said: "You know what?! I'll go four weeks without chicken, and better yet, I'll go without any meat what-so-ever!" Grandma: "$50 says you can't." Lol, I don't remember if I got the $50 or not. During the month I was a Vegetarian for the bet, I did some research on Vegetarianism and factory farms and whatnot... Made me never want to go back to eating meat.

I had tried going Vegan in the past but it never lasted. What finally sealed the deal (at 21) was I got realllllly fucked up (I know I smoked pot... Whether I drank or not too I do not remember) and started watching That 70s Show. The mom was cooking with one of the girls (...I don't watch the show enough to know names) and told her to crack the eggs into the bowl. The girl said that she couldn't touch them, since they came from a chicken butt. That got me to thinking about what an egg really is. It's basically a chicken's period, and that grossed me out beyond belief. I haven't eaten eggs since. I've eaten things with eggs in 'em, but not intentionally.

I gave up dairy shortly after giving up eggs. I had slowly cut back on cheeses due to calories and cholesterol and developed a minor intolerance. Rather than deal with the intolerance, I cut it all together. I always found it rather hypocritical that I wouldn't drink milk but would eat cheese... I quit drinking milk when I was 12 because I realized just how unnatural it is to drink another mammal's milk...
 
^ I don't wanna be insulting but that made me laugh! You do realize they put actual shit on all those veggies you eat right? ;)

As for myself, I'm doing a lot of strength training. This means I eat Lot's of proteins and I eat meat almost every day. I try to stay away from red meat as much as possible though.. Most meat I eat is turkey, and fish (which I consider to be meat too, seriously wtf is the difference?). Most of my proteins come from dairy (whey schakes, cottage cheese, skim milk) and beans though.
 
I've been raw/vegan for almost 4 months. I decided to make the switch because of my rheumatoid arthritis. I read a few books and lots of stories on the internet that diet has a huge impact on the disease. And so I found... that it does, indeed! I can definitely testify that it leaves you with higher and more consistent energy, and a clearer mind (especially if you eat a lot of greens). I don't do it because I think it's the best diet. Everyone needs to eat something different, because we all have very different bodies. I fully accept that some people just need to eat lots of meat, eggs, or whatnot. This is just what works best for me right now.
 
^ I don't wanna be insulting but that made me laugh! You do realize they put actual shit on all those veggies you eat right? ;)

[...] Most meat I eat is turkey, and fish (which I consider to be meat too, seriously wtf is the difference?).[...]

Didn't take it as an insult--I'm not that easily offended. But yeah, I know they USE shit to GROW the veggies--They don't cover the ripe vegetables with shit and then ship it to the store, lol. And even if there were trace amounts of shit on my veggies, that's why I wash 'em. And, if by chance I were to miss a bit of poo and ingest it, it's most likely still Vegan! We don't use poo from carnivorous animals to fertilize our crops, lol.

As far as fish being meat and what the difference is, I do not know for sure. Fish is meat in my book, but for a lot of religious people it is not meat in their book. I've heard it comes from the fact (fact? I dunno, I've never caught and killed a fish...) that when you slice into a freshly caught fish, it doesn't bleed, unlike animals that are considered to be meat. I dunno, just what I've heard.
 
I have to tell you, I've once seen a herd of cows aggressively trample and then eat a heron, needless to say I was shocked (and fascinated) but I know I'm nitpicking now ;) I see where you're coming from with the egg actually being the disgusting thing.

I looked up the definition of meat and it indeed includes fish. You're right about religions, the catholics and jews decided they wanted to use their own definitions. Stubborn bastards!
 
I've been a vegetarian since October... think I'm going to try raw-vegan for a week or two to see how it goes. My friend (a meat-eater) thought of doing it, so I'm going to join him. I have a feeling I'll like it a lot.
 
this is my personal take on dieting, and the basis for any dietary knowledge i give to those that ask me:

your body has been around for a few million years really. the "source code" for how it uses molecules found outside itself, converts them into energy and nutrients, and all the physiology involved therein, has been around - think very deeply on this thought - for millions of years. modern human bodies have been around for around half a million years. thats a very long time.

i believe the last mass extinction event to really threaten homo sapiens was 65,000 years ago (almost all of our genetic diversity was wiped out in this massive climate change, resulting in the gene pool we have around today). so weve got a backstory millions of years old, and all of us today can draw a connection to the few hundred (to potentially tens) thousand humans that survived to procreate. sidenote: cooking is also around this time period (although some argue ~2mil).

agriculture is around 12,000 years old, and having become globally prolific around 9,000 years ago. reminder - this is when grains effectively entered the diet. animal domestication is only around 7000 years old, and even with that, it may really be about 4-5,000 years ago until it was on a scale we could compare to times of recorded history. civilization is only about 6000 years old, and history starts to effectively enter the scene around 4000 years ago, but real recorded and well documented history is only around 2500-2800 years old.

in the last 50 years, food and food availability has seen an absurd and shocking change. now i started this timeline millions of years ago. 50 years is not a long time. 50 years is one fraction of a blink of an eye in the history of our genetic source code, our digestive systems, and how we make use of food for energy and nutrition.

our bodies are in no way shape or form adapted to the means with which we currently consume food in the West (and well, the world).

so with this, i make the claim that veganism is entirely dependent on modern culture. youd die very quickly in the world our bodies are adapted to, highly unlikely you would survive long enough to procreate. is it "healthy?" certainly more healthy than eating red meat and cheese every day of your life. however, the human body is not adapted to it. i wouldnt recommenced any person on earth become a vegan.

vegetarianism is not plausible in a time without civilization, although possible. our bodies are not well adapted to the absence of meat, but provided that we have access to all the proteins we need, and get plenty of them, there isnt much of a problem. however, grocery stores and restaurants are rather alien to this world, and without modernized societies, you take what you can get. you are entirely dependent on agriculture to survive.

eating meat and animal products: how easy do you think meat was to come by in this prehistoric world our bodies are finely adapted to? meat is a luxury. its packed with vitamins, wonderful source of proteins and heavy minerals, magnanimous in fat, its like an ancient world multivitamin. not something youre going to see every day either. in fact, our bodies are wonderfully adapted to consuming meat in very small doses only a day or two our of what we now call a week. not only this, but the amount of energy required to obtain meat was immense. not only do you have to catch up with and fight your meat to the bloody death, you had to be damn sure you diddnt fuck yourself up in any way in the process. then, much energy is required just getting to the meat. then there is the aspect of bringing it back home and cooking it (cooking and adapting to cooking has had wonderful advantages, something that may have given us a great advantage over other hominids who lived on earth around 50,000 years ago).

eating meat every day has terrible, and insidious, consequences. even if you feel healthy, and look healthy, your body is in no way adapted to eating meat every day, and with other animal products, they should be kept to a minimum in a day (but hey, having a bit of yogurt every day is pretty kickass). eating meat several times a day is wasteful and gluttonous. the amount of calories, fats, and nutrients in meat is very high (lets hope were all eating organic, free range, all natural diet fed animals :) ). eating excess amounts of steak, for example, is doing nothing productive and giving your body way to much stuff to process that it simply is not adapted to do. the result is all the nasty side effects of eating too much meat we see in the USA and elsewhere today. keep it real - keep it ancient world real - meat is a luxury to be enjoyed once or twice a week. the environmental benefits of eating this little meat would be astounding as well.

junk food: it shouldnt exist. there is where i stand on that.

view molecules as data, and your body as a computer. its adapted to taking in a certain profile of data every day, and skewing that profile heavier in some directions and lighter in the others will fuck up the computer in enough time.

my core spiritual beliefs include a longing for the return to our nomadic, harmonious, and balanced existence with this universe (planet, whatever scale you wish). that being said, i am fond of envisioning an existence free of the dependencies on the world weve created. in any event, think about the scale between how modern society has affected food and nutrition, and how new and sudden this advent is. then think of that every time you are making dietary decisions.

again, think on this thought: modern technology has made food available to me in this manner in the last few decades (centuries), but my body is adapted to a world millions of years before these conditions.

how much meat did i eat today? this week? this month?

how many animal products did i consume today and recently?

how many leafy greens did i eat today? this week?

how many fruits did i eat today? how diverse were they, and what colors were they?

how many other veggies have i been eating today and all week?

tubers? legumes? whole grains? think of these in context of the amount of protein and carbs youve consumed already.

at what point am i at through today's dietary profile? proteins? get enough unsat fats? am i close to or over the limit for saturated fat? carbs? fibers? vitamins and minerals?

to make this easier, pay attention to the nutrition in what you eat. learn what appropriate levels for the above are, and make mental notes all the time. it will become easy with enough constant thought, and you should always be giving your diet constant thought, as it is what becomes the physical you. it determines the greater part of your mood. your energy levels. your perception on the world. your health. your endurance. your awareness. in fact, it is a social obligation to be the healthiest you can be.

start now. what did you eat today...
 
Very deep and thought provoking, Rm-rf! However, I have a few questions on some points you made:

so with this, i make the claim that veganism is entirely dependent on modern culture. youd die very quickly in the world our bodies are adapted to, highly unlikely you would survive long enough to procreate. is it "healthy?" certainly more healthy than eating red meat and cheese every day of your life. however, the human body is not adapted to it. i wouldnt recommenced any person on earth become a vegan.
Whew, where to begin. Cow's milk is designed to grow an 800-pound mammal in a short amount of time. It is not meant to give us calcium. While you didn't say that and I don't want to put words in your mouth, that is what most people view milk's purpose as. I highly suggest you (and anyone reading this) go on Itunes, to the Itunes Store, and look up a PodCast called "Nutritional Evils of Dairy." While you may view this as a bias source, some of the information is intreguing, whether you believe it or not. A class in Nutrition I took a few years back supports a few points in what I heard in this PodCast, like how milk is acidic. Also, I read awhile back* that milk actually causes osteoporosis... Think about it--Kinda funny that the country with the highest milk consumption has the highest rates of osteoporosis, don't cha think? *I don't currently have the source but if you would like it I can try and search the History on this computer, see if it pops up.

meat is a luxury. its packed with vitamins, wonderful source of proteins and heavy minerals, magnanimous in fat, its like an ancient world multivitamin. not something youre going to see every day either. in fact, our bodies are wonderfully adapted to consuming meat in very small doses only a day or two our of what we now call a week.
I agree that meat is a luxury and it should not be consumed as frequently as it now is... However, with our lifestyles as they are now, we get twice as much protein as we need. We're no longer running, catching creatures for food.

(cooking and adapting to cooking has had wonderful advantages, something that may have given us a great advantage over other hominids who lived on earth around 50,000 years ago).
Are you aware that cooking actually destroyed nutrients found in food? Meat is not exempt from this fact. While some of the vitamins in meat are not destroyed by cooking, the majority of 'em are. Again, I have no source atm, but if you want it I can try and find it. (Lol, I appear to be poorly equipped for a discussion on Veg*nism atm, don't I?)

(lets hope were all eating organic, free range, all natural diet fed animals :) ).
If all meat was organic (devoid of chemicals), TRULY free range (did you know there's no regulation of the term? Animals could have a pen 5x5'and be considered "free range" since it's not a pen too small for them to turn around), and had an all natural diet consisting of GRASS, I would consider eating meat again. Please note the grass factor--As humans, we should only eat animals that eat grass. Not grain.

start now. what did you eat today...
I ate horribly today. Was going to make a stir-fry for dinner but woke up too late to cook (yeah, sounds weird, but I work 3rd shift... Woke up at 6:30p [normally up by 4ish] and by the time I finished all I needed to do, my mom was home [works 2nd shift] and she likes her space in the living room/kitchen when she gets home... So, today I have had a pita with hummus, a bowl of rice, and a bowl of cereal w/ almond milk (still tryin' to finish off that dreadful stuff... so gross... I have never been a fan of milk replacements...Someone said I should try almond milk because "it is delicious"). I'll probably have a salad later. Oh, also, all grains were wheat/whole unless otherwise mentioned.
 
I am a vegetarian, sometimes vegan. I find my body better without the consumption of meats. There have been a few threads like this, but I feel like relaxing and typing a little today, so here again:

In my travels, I meet fellow vegetarians who are caught up with computing the carbon miles, etc. of the food that they eat. In terms of sustainability, many of them say that cows/fowl are unsustainable and create a large footprint, but they are thinking only of large factory farms. I myself have chickens in our backyard who we do not even feed (they live on the many insects, grass seeds and fruit), and they help the soil rebuild with their droppings. I have seen countless small family farms in the province that have aquaculture or some animals, and these are in cycle with their resources.

Now, in this context of a sustainable living space with animals-- how often can you consume animals? I would say right now, we have 20 chickens or so. That is only about enough for consuming only once every quarter (special occasion, maybe graduation, birthday, etc.)! Now of course, if we put more care "propagating" them, they could possibly be consumed once a month, or even once a week. Like rm-rf said, definitely NOT every meal of every day. What makes it possible for people to consume cheap meats at every meal is the industrial farming sector, which pumps them with antibiotics/etc. Otherwise, you would have to be very wealthy to have them all the time! (Fish is another story, of course. Many coastal communities consume fish at every meal, even breakfast, just from personal fishing)

A common comment also from people from the province is that vegetarian food (local) is like the food of mountain people. There are many communities who subsist mainly on fruit and vegetables (we have year round produce because we are tropical) except on special occasions.

In more Western communities, I see so many fellow vegetarians subsisting on imported food. For instance, in Sweden, everyone says that eating meat has a very large effect on the environment, and milk is bad, but in some areas I've been to there, cows are practically the only medium to convert solar plant energy into human-fit energy! They consume grasses over winter or on poor (for humans) terrain. It is no wonder people there had developed a dairy culture. In short, historically, they have been essential to human survival in that particular landscape, aside from rootcrops and warmer vegetables. Again, their consumption had been moderated by the reality of nature (i.e. the capacity of the land for # of cows, natural milk production). Obviously the population now has exceeded the land's capacity, in many areas.

There are no hard and fast rules for my diet. It is just mainly: no artificial things (coloring, preservatives), and no meat. I do have dairy at times and it's mostly from the water buffalo (who are not factory farmed and are pastured). Even dairy and eggs are given a bad rap, but I posit they have been studying chemical-laden samples! I don't believe there is a wrong and right diet, but try to pay attention to how your grandparents/greats ate before mass production made mass importation and factory farms possible. Nothing romantic, but it may lead you to your version of an appropriate diet.
 
I recently replied in another, similar thread, but what the hey. A brief version.

I was mostly vegetarian for years. I did a piss poor job of it; I simply ate things which weren't meat, which hardly constitutes a well thought out approach to a meat free diet.

I've had issues with food for much of my life. Some years ago it was confirmed through lab tests that my immune system is quite sensitive to gluten and most dairy. Soy is also highly suspected. Peanuts, too. I had eaten all these things for over twenty years, unknowingly damaging my gastrointestinal system and aggravating my immune system. Beans have never sat very well in my stomach on a daily basis, and even some gluten-free grains have given me headaches. Too many seeds give me gas or a bloated feeling.

Not long ago, I began getting red itches all over the place from any food I ate, even steamed broccoli. I new I had to do some cleansing, work on my guts, and revamp my diet.

I cut out *all* grains (I'd gone gluten free years ago, so that means all gluten free grains), all beans, all seeds, all dried fruit and honeym and most nuts. I ate (and still do) wild-caught fish, the best beef I can find (non factory farmed, no hormones, etc., and grass-finished and fed when possible), fresh fruit, veggies, lots of fat, and a few nuts.

I am doing better. I still take supplements to aid in digestion; I think that due to years of eating foods hard to digest for me, yeast issues, adrenal imbalances, among other things, it's a good idea to give my body some help. That aside, I generally feel better when I eat animal proteins. I am far less bloated after eating; though I still experience fatigue, my energy is more level from less carb-based blood sugar fluctuations; I'm gaining more muscle with less working out than I did even when I ate tons of nuts and seeds and gulped down rice and hemp protein powders; I'm having far fewer skin irritations; my libido is better.

For breakfast today I just had a 1.2 pound steak (not a sirloin or anything, for God's sake) with olive oil on top. Now I'm eating raw almonds. Later I'll probably have some wild caught salmon, and veggies and fruit.

Is this the final, best way of eating for me? I don't know. But on the whole, it feels better than what I've done before. I'm always looking out for what works, and whatever works best is what I'll choose. I know I still have work to do. I will not agree that this way of eating, or veganism (or anything in between either end of the spectrum) is the ideal for every single person. Some people feel worse without animal based foods, others feel wonderful. If veganism, vegetarianism, or whatever works for you, go for it!

As for what humans evolved to eat, I've heard very convincing arguments from just about every side - including those which suggest a diet very high in meat - and otherwise.
 
I've been a vegetarian since age 12, vegan

at 16 and raw foodist at 18 carrying over to the present.

Ill Post when om jot on my phone
 
I did it for 2 weeks(vegan) a couple months ago. I definitely felt fatigued with the type of workouts I do 6 times a week. Lower protein=not good enough to keep me going fitness-wise.

You can easily get enough protein from a raw-food diet. This may not translate well, but before I was a vegetarian, I had little muscle mass and was mostly skinny-fat. Now, after ~7 months of being a vegetarian, I've got more muscle mass than I ever have (as a result of simple body-weight exercises). I also run 3+ miles nearly every day, and bike 15+miles every sunny day. If professional athletes (Tony Gonzales comes to mind) can do it, I bet you can too.
 
The bit you said about people fighting over whose diet was the best then everyone effing up and cheating when they got high is the exact reason why I wouldn't strictly follow any preset diet routine. Whenever I feel like I lose control over things like that, I twang back and rebel.

I just think its important to be mindful of what you throw in your body. I've been getting progressively better at judging what my body wants, and letting that dictate what I eat. I used to have a pretty severe cognitive dissonance between my body and food, which only got exasperated by that whole media food obsession thing. Now I just try to keep it varied, and I eat whole foods as much as possible.

I've been 'vegetarian' (I just dislike the term) since last summer, but before that I didn't eat that much meat anyhow. My body just feels more in tune with itself when I eat more wholesome things, and its become almost annoyingly sensitive. I ate a cupcake last week and actually got the shakes and had to sit down and recuperate for a while. I can nonchalantly interact in public on heavy psychedelics but I can't handle a baked good. Go me.
 
I've been a vegan for 4 months, straight from a standard diet, and I love it, and couldn't imagine ever going back to eating meat and dairy. It is a lot of effort but I feel better than I ever have, and get comfort just from the fact I managed to achieve it in the first place.

My reasons for making the change are for better health, and because it's a more sustainable diet, that uses less of the world's resources to maintain. It can also be quite good for conversation I've found, although sometimes my explanations about what being vegan involves are met with horrified looks - much to my amusement! :P

As part if my diet I eat mostly wholefoods (for most processed foods contain dairy) and I make my own tempeh, which is a kind of soy bean cake from Indonesia that is extremely yummy! I recommend that everyone try it should you every come across it in a health food store.
 
I was vegetarian for 3 years and kept getting sicker and sicker. I don't think it's as simple as just that being a vegetarian was making me sick. It's so much more complex than that. For one thing I have celiac disease and my body can't digest grains or dairy very well and I'm also deathly reactive to soy (makes horrible lesions on my skin and gums, just like wheat does). I also have discovered that I am a protein/fat metabolic type, meaning that I do really well and feel great on a high protein and fat diet and that type of diet works the best in creating energy for me. When I eat a lot of carbs I tend to feel bloated and sluggish for hours after.

So that, plus the fact that I can't really digest any form of vegetarian protein.. makes it damn near impossible for me to be a vegetarian. My body just needs way more protein than the small amount of nuts and seeds I eat can give me. I've tried hemp protein and all sorts of other vegan options. Nothing seems to work but meat.

I would never say vegetarian diets are unhealthy just because of what I went through, as I know some people thrive on them. But they are without a doubt unhealthy for me, and I also no longer believe there is anything inherently unhealthy about meat (like some vegetarians would have you believe, that it's "toxic" or whatever). When I added meat back into my diet my skin got a healthy glow to it, I put healthy weight on in all the right places, and I (most important) felt 10,0000 x better! I do prefer free range, organic, grass fed, etc whenever I can get it. It just tastes better.

The diet that works best for me is lots of chicken, beef, turkey,eggs, raw fruit, raw nuts, raw plant oil like flax and healthy fats from avacado, raw salads, some raw and cooked vegetables, some fermented foods like kimchi, a SMALL amount of rice (can digest it in reasonable amounts but that is the only grain I can tolerate), and pure water. I don't really eat much of anything else and if I do, I get sick.

What works for one doesn't work for another, an important thing to remember, took me years to learn that. I used to be on here ranting and raving about how meat was toxic and vegetarianism was the only right way... but you live and learn.
 
no animosity towards those diets, but no interest either.

i feel great as is. work my ass off exercising, get my studies done, and still have the energy and excitement to go out drinking with my friends more often than i should. since the main selling point (for me, at least) of a new diet would be athletic fitness and overall well-being anyway, i don't have a lot of incentive to change. i generally eat healthy, but one of the best feelings in the world to me is digesting a barely-cooked two pound steak. i'm gonna be on the couch for an hour or two, but my body has a very real, visceral reaction to the presence of that much protein that just makes me feel awesome.

as for the environment, i'm kind of a cynic. it's not that i don't think sustainability and eating local matters, but the amount of math you'd have to do to actually know that one choice was more ecological than another makes me feel like it's a fruitless prism through which to view my decisions.
 
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