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Slippery Sheepdogs Dribbling Rainbow Halo's All Over The Parellogram- PD Triangle Urt

I've always wanted to go to Zion. I bet that'll be a lot of fun. :)

I'm... kind of sad right now, I'm trying to get out of it, though. Just need to feel some love, heh. have a good trip :)

When I was at Rainbow Serpent there was a excitable minute that made me think I was in Zion at the massive party they have there (hopefully all the time)... it rocked!

It sucks that sadness is sometimes such a crucial part of being human and learning. :(
 
I'm so very lonely right now.
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Felt so disconnected. No one... cares if I'm there. Or anywhere.

I feel sort of tired, so I doubt I'll trip... in theory it'd be fun, but I sort of just want to sleep. Blargh. So sad, fuck everything...

warning-exceedingly tl;dr

Divine Sister,

I don't know you, but I've become vaguely familiar with you by reading this thread (I read PD almost daily lately, but haven't had much time or inclination to post. Bluelight seems to come in waves for me like that) ... but this resonated with me and my own psychologoy of late enough that I wrote down some musings about what I'd say is a shared condition and an all-too-common affliction within the community (my primary psychological defense mechanism is intellectualization, and my closest pharmacological ally is a certain highly analytical lysergamide, can you tell?)

First and foremost, 'cause what I wrote below is long, technical, and sort of removed from any sort of personal reality here, I want to send you some LOVE and LIGHT, inasmuch as I can toss energy across ethernets and routers and space and time and national borders, please recieve peace, love, acceptance, understanding, insight, prosperity, and blessing ... world without end.

That feeling of isolation and loneliness and sheer existential terror is one that I know too well, and I think a lot of our comrades here will agree--our movement does not, as a rule, attract people who mainstream society would term "well adjusted", at least internally, that is to say, from the inside-looking-in. The Experience deeply unsettles certain equilibria within our selves our socially constructed selves, that is, our ego-bound identity, not the true self what the Hindus would call the atman, that is to say, the experiencer which experiences ego-dissoluton/turiya/whatever you may call it) relative to what we might percieve as normative in the context of mainstream society. The end result, in some stage of the path that we find ourselves on, is a day-to-day existence fraught with a certain sort of existential anxiety: who am I? What is my place in the world: socially, spiritually, teleologically? What is the meaning of these things that I have experienced? Is it right, and is it okay, to have seen these things and then returned to ordinary consciousness?

Maybe I read you wrong to connect all of this to the Experience, but I doubt I'm far off, one way or another, particularly as you mention tripping at the end of your post: that these concerns are common in our community raises a sort of chicken-and-the-egg, or correlation-versus-causation question: are psychedelics the source of the affliction of this existential anxiety or are those who are particularly afflicted with this affliction drawn towards psychedelics? I'm of the opinion that, at least to a degree, the movement attracts "broken people," but I put somewhat of an optimistic spin on it. At least a signfiicant portion of those within our movement are "broken people" who are in the process of fixing ourselves (some, of course, alternatively are engaged in a path of self-destruction, ironically utilizing the same tools that others are using in the path of self-improvement.)

So back to this loneliness, this isolation, this existential anxiety. I could get into a lengthy discussion of this as sociological phenomenon and as inherent part of the postmodern condition but I'll spare you all as this post is already stupidly technical and tl;dr. To bring it to a personal level, it's something I feel daily. I live in a city of millions of people, but feel completely isolated. Psychedelics help me reconnect. However, it's sort of a Gordian knot ... tripping too much causes more of a radical disconnect between my mindset and consensus reality, which leads to more isolation. The most powerful message you can get from psychedelics is that such seperations, dichotomies, and existential dilemmas are bullshit, and that the experience should be taken for what it is, and experience, one that can be learned from, and used as a jumping-off point to understand oneself better. Getting too far into the "message" of psychedelics can lead only to delusion a la Leary, Pinchbeck, Lilly, Gray, and the whole rogue's gallery of tomfoolery within the movement ... the only "message" that is really there is very simplistic:


The only verb that you have to verb is "to be", i.e., to exist in the highest sense of the word. From this proceeds all else.
And as all is proceeding from this fundamental fact of your existence and your experience, everything is connected. Connection is a fact; it is not a possibility or a construct or an artifact of circumstance. Only disconnection is artificial and circumstantial and constructed. The feeling of disconnection exists because we do not embrace the simplictiy of connection and of existence itself. And to embrace this is at some level synonymous with the path of enlightenment that we find ourselves on, in various stages ...

So why is it so fucking hard? Why do we find ourselves again and again alone and in doubt? Is it just the human condition? Is it an imperfection, someting "broken" within ourselves? Do others find all of this easy? Well, to the last question, I certainly think not. I think that practically any mind from the inside probably seems totally chaotic and insane ... at least until one has put a lot of work into it. That's the path we're all on, I hope ... doing that work. There are fits and starts.

Ram Dass tells a story, I think in Be Here Now, about a man who is walking towards enlightenment. He walks up a hill, and looks about at the beautiful scenery, sits back, and says "Gee! Look at how enlightened I am!". Immediately thereafter he continues on his journey and finds himself descending into a valley ... until he reaches another, taller hill, and repeats the process again.

Divine sister, it sounds like you're in a valley, and it sounds like it fucking hurts, but the hill beyond is taller, and the view is more beautiful than anything you have ever seen before. Trust.

Namaste
SKL

P.S. pharmacologically I think the best medicine for you would be LSD, perhaps with a touch of 5-MeO-DMT post-peak, together with some peaceful music ... this combination can be amazingly healing ... as long as you get along well with both substances ... I'm playing around with doing some serious psychedelic therapies with people, very experimental and mostly theoretical stuff at this point, but I have some ideas ... but of course, pharmacology will only go so far ... all that stuff about merely opening the door, or getting the message and hanging up, etc, etc.
 
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SKL, that was a wonderful and inspiring post. You are a wise man <3

Flarestar, I am keeping you in my thoughts and sending positive vibes your way. Hope you'll feel better soon! <3

I'm heading to bed, good night and lots of love to all of you!
 
I hope you all see this post

when I registered I just wanted a few questions answered and just put my name in as a my username and didn't really worry bout who would find out coz everyone I know is aware of my substance use or as I call it consciouness exploration. Well now I have a government job and are just a little paraniod some how they will find out so I have to cancel this account and start a new one.... sorry guys...I will return promise

should I P.M you all my new username, it would feel a bit over the top as I haven't been here that long , what do you guys think yes or don't worry about it????????

if you feel its necessary than sure, PM us.
But i think if you changed your name and came here and told everyone who you were it would work just as well if not better.
 
I took those pics down, hope you didn't save them or something creepy like that...

uhh .. lol

your not that special :)

You wanna call Pders creepy ?

why would someone need to save those pics

I see beautiful women everynight and have loads of fun with no need for freeze frames

Dont come in here a nd call people creepy for what they may or may not do with pics. Alot of us have been here along time and I found that comment a little rude

Watch your tongue :p
 
^to charlie-boy: Chill out, its a fair call- lotsa pics end up in weird places on the net. I personally don't find Flareys comments rude or anything- she's entitled to say what she wants, just like you or I or the other me that lives in my pants. <3

Anyhoo, it really doesn't matter how long someones been here for....No damn pecking order in this thread....:\
 
ugh, i'm vaguely considering taking up dope again.not good.
 
I just lost a great opiate connection (oxycodone, oxymorphone, dilaudid, fentanyl, etc etc); and although I'm sad that I don't have access to all those goodies anymore, I feel like its a great blessing. That fluffy opiate blanket was turning me into a really weak and apathetic person. :\

Fuck opiates.....once you learn to love them, they will always haunt you. :(
 
ugh, i'm vaguely considering taking up dope again.not good.

The quality and consideration present in your previous post are tangible proof that taking up dope again would do nothing but squander your intellect and teeming compassion. I know I'm new here and I don't mean to sound presumptuous, it's just how I feel given my personal experience with that particular animal and the people I know (or maybe knew is more appropriate, given what they've become) who've broken themselves to its yoke. Talk it out, man, whatever it is. I'm sure I'm not alone when I say I'd love to hear what's on your mind.
 
i had a few bags of dope on friday night/saturday morning.
I got high, it felt nice. But when i woke up i had no urge to keep using, so i didnt, still feeling quite nice right now.

as we all know opiates can be great fun, super relaxing and peaceful but at the same time its like playing with fire. Be safe or you'll get burned.

*licks swillows love off his orifice*
Love and Lite folks

i dont think ill ever put myself in the position of having to kick dope again. Its way to unpleasant of an experience. And not even the physical aspects of it, but the way it leaves you feeling empty, depressed, like a waste of life. i have no need for that now. im riding this beautiful LSD afterglow for as long as it will let me.
 
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