European Elections

[Jnowhere]

Hey after a few generations of having 12.1 kids each they will finally have Sharia law in Europe.

 

[Jnowhere]

Divide the world into regional groups as a transitional stage of world government. Populations will more readily abandoned their national loyalty to a vague regional loyalty than they will to a world authority. Later the regions can be brought together all the way into a single world dictatorship.
Joseph Stalin

 

[Deleted member 567457]

Divide the world into regional groups as a transitional stage of world government. Populations will more readily abandoned their national loyalty to a vague regional loyalty than they will to a world authority. Later the regions can be brought together all the way into a single world dictatorship.
Joseph Stalin

i'm think reacting to this because i would have to look up if that's really something stalin said.
but it makes sense.
and you can see it happening every day.
people will join those close to them, family, neighbors, coworkers, people they know, before joining some stranger.
for someone to do that, they must be surrounded by people who have completely different set of values or different ideas and nobody they can share and act upon their own ideas with.
lonely people and those who feel left out join random strangers.

 

[Jnowhere]

i'm think reacting to this because i would have to look up if that's really something stalin said.
but it makes sense.
and you can see it happening every day.
people will join those close to them, family, neighbors, coworkers, people they know, before joining some stranger.
for someone to do that, they must be surrounded by people who have completely different set of values or different ideas and nobody they can share and act upon their own ideas with.
lonely people and those who feel left out join random strangers.

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Top 25 Joseph Stalin Quotes
Go check, of course it is something he did say he is a commie)

 

[Electrum1]

i'm think reacting to this because i would have to look up if that's really something stalin said.
but it makes sense.
and you can see it happening every day.
people will join those close to them, family, neighbors, coworkers, people they know, before joining some stranger.
for someone to do that, they must be surrounded by people who have completely different set of values or different ideas and nobody they can share and act upon their own ideas with.
lonely people and those who feel left out join random strangers.

Feel like this applies to a lot, but may apply to your post too

Ideological differences in the expanse of the moral circle - Nature Communications

How do liberals and conservatives differ in their expression of compassion and moral concern? The authors show that conservatives tend to express concern toward smaller, more well-defined, and less permeable social circles, while liberals express concern toward larger, less well-defined, and...

www.nature.com

 

[Deleted member 567457]

Feel like this applies to a lot, but may apply to your post too

cool.
i downloaded the pdf to read when i'm not high and drunk.
my understanding at this point is that i'm a conservative with my political ideas because i think that people (like any other species) should be concerned about what happens in front of them before thinking about some random person in east polynesia.
i think it's just natural to think like this. it's a survival thing, and only those who don't need to survive can afford to think about others.

but those who think too much about others risk two things:
- stepping over those they think they are protecting/fighting for
- making themselves vulnerable

returning to the topic of governing over people of many different nationalities/cultures this translates to disregarding the "inner moral rings" of the people in favor of the outer rings.

and if the outer rings represent mammals and what lies farther away, i would say i have two red areas.
one is with nature as the most important thing, and then with the people close to me.

 

[Nas47]

just for context, this guy is a leader of a neo-fascist movement called "Identitäre Bewegung" operating in Germany and Austria.

what? maybe stop drinking the disinformation kool aid? the far right FPÖ is still the strongest party in parliament, they just didn't find anyone to form a coalition with because they are too extremist even for the conservatives.

i don't know are they extremists or not,but if the current status quo like rulling political parties in the most european countries continuing to stay on power-including the real extremists in Europarlament-chief of commisions...etc.....-those who dictate the current situation-this means mass incredible poverty for the most citizens and even the worst-a war in the North-east.....don't know situation in Austria very good...look Romania is a neighbour-Kalin Georgescu-won the first round of presidental tours(and they not recognized his won,because of a dumbass mantra-"He is an agent of Putin"....just like with Trump's story.....and their hide behind this"agent of Kremlin" just to stay on power and not go in jail for their dirty affairs) and was arested just before goin' to registrate for the next elections in later May....this dumbass globalists are so desperate and pathetic to save their own ugly skins that are ready to flood the whole continent with blood......Putin looks for interest of Russia,Trump for America,XI for China....only this creatures pull whole nations of this poor Europe to the botomless bottom

 

[tryptakid]

Feel like this applies to a lot, but may apply to your post too

Ideological differences in the expanse of the moral circle - Nature Communications

How do liberals and conservatives differ in their expression of compassion and moral concern? The authors show that conservatives tend to express concern toward smaller, more well-defined, and less permeable social circles, while liberals express concern toward larger, less well-defined, and...

www.nature.com

This is interesting -thanks for sharing. I think it shows the individualist vs. collectivist dichotomy that often leaves us seeing issues in very very different ways.

One of my favorite lessons during school (I believe it was 7th grade english prior to jumping into Shakespeare) was learning about Kohlberg's scale for moral development:

Level 1 (Pre-Conventional)

1. Obedience and punishment orientation(How can I avoid punishment?)
2. Self-interest orientation(What's in it for me?)(Paying for a benefit)

Level 2 (Conventional)

3. Interpersonal accord and conformity(Social norms)(The good boy/girl attitude)
4. Authority and social-order maintaining orientation(Law and order morality)

Level 3 (Post-Conventional)

5. Social contract orientation
6. Universal ethical principles(Principled conscience)

I recall at the time that our teacher explained that most adults operate at a level 4 - conventional morality that is often anchored by law as a guide. Level 5 'greatest good for the greatest number' looks at goodness as an outcome and argues for the most good for the most people, whereas level 6 is focused on the greatest good for every individual, based on the application of moral principles. As Omar Little notes in 'The Wire' - "Every man has to have a code". He is a great example of someone operating at a level 6 of morality - born into the projects, he rejected gang affiliation and instead 'robs drug dealers' to provide for his neighbors and others who are vulnerable to the drug war. He has no problem lying in court in order to get an innocent (for the specific crime) man in Byrd convicted, as he knew that Byrd's true criminal behavior was far more damaging to the community while also being almost impossible to prove in a specific court case.

Incidentally, Omar also would not turn his gun on a working man, and avoided killing at all costs unless protecting others or in grave peril. He also never swears in the show, a small detail that is rarely noted.

As a kid, I thought that level 5 might actually be better than level 6 as it allowed more people to benefit from moral action - however I failed to grasp the true concept of principled morality that transcends context. Level 6 morality is often complicated as it may contrast with social norms, legal statue, and may even seem counterintuitive/illogical at times. Because it is rooted in deep principles, it is likely the type of morality that 'Chaotic Good' characters in DnD would grow towards - breaking the law in the pursuit of greater good.

It's the benchmark by which I have grown to aspire towards throughout my life.

 

[Bagseed]

i don't know are they extremists or not,but if the current status quo like rulling political parties in the most european countries continuing to stay on power-including the real extremists in Europarlament-chief of commisions...etc.....-those who dictate the current situation-this means mass incredible poverty for the most citizens and even the worst-a war in the North-east.....don't know situation in Austria very good...look Romania is a neighboure-Kalin Georgescu-won the first round of presidental tours(and they not recognized his won,because of a dumbass mantra-"He is an agent of Putin"....just like with Trump's story.....and their hide behind this"agent of Kremlin" just to stay on power and not go in jail for their dirty affairs) and was arested just before goin' to registrate for the next elections in later May....this dumbass globalists are so desperate and pathetic to save their own ugly skins that are ready to flood the whole continent with blood......Putin looks for interest of Russia,Trump for America,XI for China....only this creatures pull whole nations of this poor Europe to the botomless bottom

members of the FPÖ are being tied to neo nazi circles on a regular basis and the party actually partially emerged from former NSDAP members (even SS leaders) after the war. so yeah they are pretty extremist (not only) imo.

 

[Jnowhere]

This is interesting -thanks for sharing. I think it shows the individualist vs. collectivist dichotomy that often leaves us seeing issues in very very different ways.

One of my favorite lessons during school (I believe it was 7th grade english prior to jumping into Shakespeare) was learning about Kohlberg's scale for moral development:



I recall at the time that our teacher explained that most adults operate at a level 4 - conventional morality that is often anchored by law as a guide. Level 5 'greatest good for the greatest number' looks at goodness as an outcome and argues for the most good for the most people, whereas level 6 is focused on the greatest good for every individual, based on the application of moral principles. As Omar Little notes in 'The Wire' - "Every man has to have a code". He is a great example of someone operating at a level 6 of morality - born into the projects, he rejected gang affiliation and instead 'robs drug dealers' to provide for his neighbors and others who are vulnerable to the drug war. He has no problem lying in court in order to get an innocent (for the specific crime) man in Byrd convicted, as he knew that Byrd's true criminal behavior was far more damaging to the community while also being almost impossible to prove in a specific court case.

Incidentally, Omar also would not turn his gun on a working man, and avoided killing at all costs unless protecting others or in grave peril. He also never swears in the show, a small detail that is rarely noted.

As a kid, I thought that level 5 might actually be better than level 6 as it allowed more people to benefit from moral action - however I failed to grasp the true concept of principled morality that transcends context. Level 6 morality is often complicated as it may contrast with social norms, legal statue, and may even seem counterintuitive/illogical at times. Because it is rooted in deep principles, it is likely the type of morality that 'Chaotic Good' characters in DnD would grow towards - breaking the law in the pursuit of greater good.

It's the benchmark by which I have grown to aspire towards throughout my life.

I am on level 357; I am waiting for the world to end. Got my home and
personal protection devics ready.

Be honest, Did you get into Shakespeare as a way to get into The Drama Club and wear tights? Or was there some deeper reason for getting into; or who ever wrote Shakespeare's plays and poems for him. There is only six examples of his hand writing; his signature and some if not all spelled in different ways?

Seriously don't you find it strange that a semi illeterate( that is what handwriting experts conclude) could write so well and know the inner workings of the royalty; despite being functionally illiterate and having no access to royalty other than who wrote his plays and poems. The lower than noble classes could mock the royalty more so than say: Sir Franis Bacon(1561-1626).

So if he wanted too, he would need a front man; like William Shakespeare (1564-1616) whom no writings of his works in his own handwriting exist.
No records of education and no examples of his handwriting exist; except 6 signatures that are mostly spelled in different ways. But 37 or so plays and 200 something poems and no examples of his writing; come on give me a break.

There are other candidates but Shakespeare couldn't write and the lack of any handwriting and no school records exist. Let alone any higher education (yes there was, but usually only nobels could write well, or at all back then). How did he know about royal courts and how they worked? He didn't but someone did and old Billy was a successful play patsy. He was eventually a wealthy but illiterate man.

It was a harmless but great conspiracy (as in whoever gifted the world with his talents; and let an illiterate become wealthy and famous). ( famous to this day and the most respected playwrite in history and it wasn't because of his talent as a writer because he was basically illiterate. How many quadriplegics ever ran a mile in under 4 minutes?( I mean they were a quadriplegic at the time and then ran a sub 4 minute mile)? None I rest my case.

 

[fairnymph]

This is interesting -thanks for sharing. I think it shows the individualist vs. collectivist dichotomy that often leaves us seeing issues in very very different ways.

One of my favorite lessons during school (I believe it was 7th grade english prior to jumping into Shakespeare) was learning about Kohlberg's scale for moral development:



I recall at the time that our teacher explained that most adults operate at a level 4 - conventional morality that is often anchored by law as a guide. Level 5 'greatest good for the greatest number' looks at goodness as an outcome and argues for the most good for the most people, whereas level 6 is focused on the greatest good for every individual, based on the application of moral principles. As Omar Little notes in 'The Wire' - "Every man has to have a code". He is a great example of someone operating at a level 6 of morality - born into the projects, he rejected gang affiliation and instead 'robs drug dealers' to provide for his neighbors and others who are vulnerable to the drug war. He has no problem lying in court in order to get an innocent (for the specific crime) man in Byrd convicted, as he knew that Byrd's true criminal behavior was far more damaging to the community while also being almost impossible to prove in a specific court case.

Incidentally, Omar also would not turn his gun on a working man, and avoided killing at all costs unless protecting others or in grave peril. He also never swears in the show, a small detail that is rarely noted.

As a kid, I thought that level 5 might actually be better than level 6 as it allowed more people to benefit from moral action - however I failed to grasp the true concept of principled morality that transcends context. Level 6 morality is often complicated as it may contrast with social norms, legal statue, and may even seem counterintuitive/illogical at times. Because it is rooted in deep principles, it is likely the type of morality that 'Chaotic Good' characters in DnD would grow towards - breaking the law in the pursuit of greater good.

It's the benchmark by which I have grown to aspire towards throughout my life.

You should take this! levelcheck.ai

 

[fairnymph]

I am on level 7; I am waiting for the world to end. Got my home and
personal protection devics ready.

Be honest, Did you get into Shakespeare as a way to get into The Drama Club and wear tights? Or was there some deeper reason for getting into; or who ever wrote Shakespeare's plays and poems for him. There is only six examples of his hand writing; his signature and some if not all spelled in different ways?

Seriously don't you find it strange that a semi illeterate( that is what handwriting experts conclude) could write so well and know the inner workings of the royalty; despite being functionally illiterate and having no access to royalty other than who wrote his plays and poems. The lower than noble classes could mock the royalty more so than say: Sir Franis Bacon(1561-1626).

So if he wanted too, he would need a front man; like William Shakespeare (1564-1616) whom no writings of his works in his own handwriting exist.
No records of education and no examples of his handwriting exist; except 6 signatures that are mostly spelled in different ways. But 37 or so plays and 200 something poems and no examples of his writing; come on give me a break.

There are other candidates but Shakespeare couldn't write and the lack of any handwriting and no school records exist. Let alone any higher education (yes there was, but usually only nobels could write well, or at all back then). How did he know about royal courts and how they worked? He didn't but someone did and old Billy was a successful play patsy. He was eventually a wealthy but illiterate man.

It was a harmless but great conspiracy (as in whoever gifted the world with his talents; and let an illiterate become wealthy and famous). ( famous to this day and the most respected playwrite in history and it wasn't because of his talent as a writer because he was basically illiterate. How many quadriplegics ever ran a mile in under 4 minutes?( I mean they were a quadriplegic at the time and then ran a sub 4 minute mile)? None I rest my case.

You too. Easy to say you’re at a certain level. Ofc, the test I posted above isn’t perfect, but it’s better than nothing.

 

[tryptakid]

I am on level 7; I am waiting for the world to end. Got my home and
personal protection devics ready.

Be honest, Did you get into Shakespeare as a way to get into The Drama Club and wear tights? Or was there some deeper reason for getting into; or who ever wrote Shakespeare's plays and poems for him. There is only six examples of his hand writing; his signature and some if not all spelled in different ways?

It was a class assignment to read his stuff: Romeo and Juliet, Midsummer night's, Hamlet, Macbeth (my personal favorite), King Lear, Othello, The Tempest... We read some of his sonnets as well such as the one where he writes a lovely poem about a homely woman. I've heard that there's some speculation that there are others who have written under the same name. A mystery for the ages, sort of like Omar Khayyam.

Seriously don't you find it strange that a semi illeterate( that is what handwriting experts conclude) could write so well and know the inner workings of the royalty; despite being functionally illiterate and having no access to royalty other than who wrote his plays and poems. The lower than noble classes could mock the royalty more so than say: Sir Franis Bacon(1561-1626).

I find many things strange. Sometimes I wonder if the past is a collective unconscious that was constructed to create a backdrop for 'the present'. I've wondered if conscious beings ever really existed during the middle ages, or in ancient times. I wouldn't be shocked if that were true, and I also don't buy into it as gospel. Just a fun little thing to think about.

So if he wanted too, he would need a front man; like William Shakespeare (1564-1616) whom no writings of his works in his own handwriting exist.
No records of education and no examples of his handwriting exist; except 6 signatures that are mostly spelled in different ways. But 37 or so plays and 200 something poems and no examples of his writing; come on give me a break.

Aye - I've heard this theory before.

There are other candidates but Shakespeare couldn't write and the lack of any handwriting and no school records exist. Let alone any higher education (yes there was, but usually only nobels could write well, or at all back then). How did he know about royal courts and how they worked? He didn't but someone did and old Billy was a successful play patsy. He was eventually a wealthy but illiterate man.

It was a harmless but great conspiracy (as in whoever gifted the world with his talents; and let an illiterate become wealthy and famous). ( famous to this day and the most respected playwrite in history and it wasn't because of his talent as a writer because he was basically illiterate. How many quadriplegics ever ran a mile in under 4 minutes?( I mean they were a quadriplegic at the time and then ran a sub 4 minute mile)? None I rest my case.

I appreciate your musings!

 

[tryptakid]

You too. Easy to say you’re at a certain level. Ofc, the test I posted above isn’t perfect, but it’s better than nothing.

I imagine you're interested in enneagrams as well? I found that way of exploring archetypes quite interesting, especially how it explores the healthy vs. toxic patterns that track depending on your type.

 

[fairnymph]

I imagine you're interested in enneagrams as well? I found that way of exploring archetypes quite interesting, especially how it explores the healthy vs. toxic patterns that track depending on your type.

I actually haven’t looked into Enneagrams yet. Or numerology. I think I have enough going on with Jung and astrology & now that levels system, although I’m not convinced level 9 is actually better than level 8 in that system.

 

[tryptakid]

I actually haven’t looked into Enneagrams yet. Or numerology. I think I have enough going on with Jung and astrology & now that levels system, although I’m not convinced level 9 is actually better than level 8 in that system.

Jung is someone I have a tremendous amount of respect for. One of the more influential forefathers for me as I got into studying psychology - others would be Abraham Maslow/Carl Rogers, and Erik Erikson. I'm actually considering exploring psychoanalysis as I've never done it before. A woman I may do some work with is a psychoanalyst and I'm thinking of seeing if she can recommend someone in my area.

 

[Jnowhere]

I actually haven’t looked into Enneagrams yet. Or numerology. I think I have enough going on with Jung and astrology & now that levels system, although I’m not convinced level 9 is actually better than level 8 in that system.

I take back what I wrote and sarcastically corrected : I am a level 9
In his little system, Jestor but more complicated, so a 9 1/4? I agree with Jim morrison: Astrology is bunch of bullshit.

 

[Kellsee]

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Is that a picture of you wearing goggles while sitting down and playing air guitar at a skate park or an empty swimming pool converted into a skate park? Or are you meditating; just curious because I zoomed in on your picture or whatever they call it, and I am baffled.

Also what psychedelics are you using or recommend for me trip on, I mean meditate and become one with God's great Universe? Also do I need trip goggles, special lighting and what music do you recommend? Does wearing any special outfits help?

Also do I need some special guided imagery type of cd playing or do have to hire a hippie self appointed therapist/ specialist to guide me while tripping my balls off; I mean a trained guided imagery therapist to become one with the empty swimming pool/ I mean swimming converted to a skate park. No I mean the universe.

Also can I use my back porch/ deck that over looks a pond. Also since I am paranoid about skunks, raccoons, Opossums, wood chucks and The Boggie Man; can I have loaded gun on me while tripping and meditating. Actually that would be a bad idea, I might start hallucinating badly and see cobras or worse robots.

Better yet two of my good home defense semiauto shotguns loaded with high velocity 1 ounce deer slugs. That will be for robots and second one loaded with , what size shot, number 4 or maybe a 3inch magnum load of bb shot? Buckshot really isn't good for imaginary cobras.

Actually because I don't have 5 acres and don't live in hillbilly land; it would be best not to have loaded guns.
But, my trusty Daisy Red Ryder bb gun, would not cause a problem and since I am imagining the cobras and robots( I am tellin' ya, robots are evil, even imaginary ones. They can ruin a great nightmare, and once robots get into your dreams bed time will be ruined).

But if I image that my trusty lever action Daisy Red Ryder bb gun is a lever action Winchester 1894; that is chambered in 44 magnum or 45 long colt with 330 grain bullets, the p+ ones for maximum power. Perfect.

So can I trip and meditate on my back porch with goggles and a guided imagery cd or YouTube probably has some. Or do I need to hire a hippie ( hopefully they won't reek of b.o., patchouli oil, weed, and sour milk)
Also what about lights, will my flood lights out there work? Also what psychedelic drug(s) do you recommend? Most importantly can I have my trusty Daisy Red Ryder bb gun with me in case of imaginary cobra or worse robots? Or will this interfere with me becoming one with the Universe? I wonder if I hired a hippie therapist; they would be scared of a bb gun?

Oh well what do recommend for meditation and you said people who use opiods for pain, does that affect the choice of what I would use? What should I do as I am confused and completely ignorant, about meditation?


You truley are a bright ray of sunshine on sometimes or rather often a bleak and sad place. But you brighten it up, . Thank you.

i first thought you were asking me if that was me in a pair of goggles in a pic you seen of me….I was like damn it what pic did you see of me?

Like Ive ever even had on goggles

Youd just have to know what I’m talking about lol Im sorry

But what you said was really sweet. It’s good to know. I’m such a mess all of the time but I do try lol

 

[alasdairm]

loud and clear.

alasdair

 

[Electrum1]

loud and clear.

Electrum