Israel is under attack

[someguyontheinternet]

And why are they 'pushing Gazans around'? Because they are big bad Jews? Or because Gaza continues to be a general launching pad for terrorism against Israel.

If they were big bad Jews they wouldn't have even bothered with a pretence of peace negotiations down the years and putting their own people in the line of fire, they simply would have steamrolled over Gaza decades ago.

You're presupposing intent on behalf of the Israeli's but yet completely overlook the overt and explicit intent of Hamas, who Palestinian's voted for, to wipe out the Israeli state. Have you asked yourself honestly why you give the benefit of the doubt to one side with an explicit genocidal intent and not to the side with no explicit genocidal intent but whom you project it on to anyway?

Yea you're right the settlers are in the west bank on holiday not to take land lmao are you joking

 

[mal3volent]

@someguyontheinternet

Why do all your responses read like twitter comments?

 

[someguyontheinternet]

I thought this was twitter sry

 

[xaddictx]

the left wing commies are chanting From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free! as elected MPs

This is fucking call to genocide jews. These people are fucked in the head. we should outlaw left wingers and commies asap before they take over and start gassing people.

Fucking hilliarous when the "woke" LGBT folk are chanting this a hamas terror chant.

Islam cant wait to chop their heads off. Do they not understand LGBT folk get stonned to death and beheaded in every islamic country on the planet?

fucking communist scumbags

Agreed..

 

[someguyontheinternet]

Agreed..

Again you're believing lies, its wild how easy people are to manipulate

Its a slogan calling for freedom not genocide

‘From the river to the sea’: where does the slogan come from and what does it mean?

Andy McDonald was suspended from the Labour party for borrowing from the phrase, which some say advocates the eradication of IsraelIsrael and Hamas at war – live updates

www.theguardian.com

‘From the river to the sea’: What does the Palestinian slogan really mean?

Critics have called its use anti-Semitic amid Israel’s war on Gaza. But the slogan has more complex roots.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[mal3volent]

Again you're believing lies, its wild how easy people are to manipulate

Its a slogan calling for freedom not genocide

‘From the river to the sea’: What does the Palestinian slogan really mean?

Critics have called its use anti-Semitic amid Israel’s war on Gaza. But the slogan has more complex roots.

www.aljazeera.com

Nice source.

Al Jazeera, funded by the government that is currently harboring the leaders of Hamas.

 

[someguyontheinternet]

There are two sources in that post and when I previously responded to your comment on the same topic I used an MSN article. Perhaps you decided not to read it and go along with your initial assumptions

 

[mal3volent]

There are two sources in that post and when I previously responded to your comment on the same topic I used an MSN article. Perhaps you decided not to read it and go along with your initial assumptions

I'm well aware of the copium that the mainstream media is spreading about that phrase. The logical fallacy here is the assumption that just because you can find examples of ignorant people using an antisemitic slogan not intending it that way, that it magically makes the phrase not antisemitic.

It's kind of like when people say the confederate flag is racist , then I find a southerner who says "no, it actually is just a symbol of my culture and home".

And the comment about AlJazeera was just me educating you on the sources you love using. You don't do any actual research or try to be objective. Pretty clear you just use google and copy and paste articles without ever reading them or thinking about the implicit bias they contain.

 

[someguyontheinternet]

If you were to read about the history of the slogan its symbolizing a desire for Palestinians to be treated as free and equal citizens from the river to the sea, but the Zionists have twisted that around and interpreted it as a desire to destroy the state of Israel. That is likely because their goal is a purely Jewish ethnostate where Palestinians ate not free citizens

 

[mal3volent]

If you were to read about the history of the slogan its symbolizing a desire for Palestinians to be treated as free and equal citizens from the river to the sea, but the Zionists have twisted that around and interpreted it as a desire to destroy the state of Israel. That is likely because their goal is a purely Jewish ethnostate where Palestinians ate not free citizens

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[assclass]

If you were to read about the history of the slogan its symbolizing a desire for Palestinians to murder the Jews in a good old fashioned genocide

fixed

 

[nepalnt21]

Or because Gaza continues to be a general launching pad for terrorism against Israel.

if this was true alongside israel wanting to bring security to its people, they wouldn't be bombing civilians willy- nilly.

israel's actions are VERY obviously (to anyone with a shred of intelligence and individual thought) creating more terrorists.

we should outlaw left wingers and commies asap

i get that you're paid by tucker carlson's handlers to sow unrest and provoke stochastic terrorism, but can you tone it (the insane fascist propaganda bullshit) down just a bit? i'd like to get my kids to college without them being murdered by a weak- minded and cowardly right wing terrorist.

also, i REALLY hope you never set foot in america. we don't need more anti- free- speech right winger clowns here.

 

[-=SS=-]

Israel's actions are VERY obviously (to anyone with a shred of intelligence and individual thought) creating more terrorists.

And Hamas's actions are VERY obviously creating more need for military interventions.

The circle of violence blame game is pointless. Israel exists, it isn't going anywhere, and the only route off the roundabout is peace. That ball is in the court of Hamas and the Palestinians.

 

[Mjäll]

And Hamas's actions are VERY obviously creating more need for military interventions.

The circle of violence blame game is pointless. Israel exists, it isn't going anywhere, and the only route off the roundabout is peace. That ball is in the court of Hamas and the Palestinians.

This is obviously just a might is right thing.

Both sides are wrong and both sides are shit.

 

[nepalnt21]

And Hamas's actions are VERY obviously creating more need for military interventions

correct. and not the actions that israel has chosen, which make it MORE unsafe for jewish israeli citizens. and the higher ups of the israeli government know this.

 

[-=SS=-]

This is obviously just a might is right thing. Both sides are wrong and both sides are shit.

It's more a case of 'you are a 5ft2 scrawny fuck and that guy is 6ft4 300lbs of muscle'. It's not might is right, it's just recognizing you aren't going to change the order of things and the only smart move is to either move away or make peace.

Israel has nuclear weapons, a sophisticated military, and the backing of western powers. It just ain't going anywhere. It's called being realistic. I mean, sure, you can entertain this delusional notion of 'from the river to the sea' but Israel will never go down without glassing everyone in the process.

Hamas and the Palestinians ain't shit. Fervent delusional religious assertion is not going to change the facts on the ground. They rely on bottle rockets and scurrying around in tunnels like rats amongst the citizenry, at some point you have to just accept it's not working and try another strategy like peace.

 

[arrall]

the numbers are from the West Bank? What do you mean? Every single article I can find references the Hamas-controlled Gaza health ministry.

My bad, they are reported by both from what I can gather.
Here is the historical accuracy:
— 2008 war: The ministry reported 1,440 Palestinians killed; the U.N. reported 1,385.

— 2014 war: The ministry reported 2,310 Palestinians killed; the U.N. reported 2,251.

— 2021 war: The ministry reported 260 Palestinians killed; the U.N. reported 256.

So let's say that the 10,051 death count of today might only actually be 9700 by the UN's methodology, and maybe instead of 4104 children it is only 3900.

Listen 1 dead child is too many. But these deaths are on Hamas not Israel. They could've surrendered weeks ago and spared all of them.

"If you guys didn't want us to kill civilians, you could've just surrendered"
That's like someone telling me "If your family didn't want to get gassed, they could've just voluntarily left Europe"
This is like when an abuser tells you "If you didn't want me to hurt you, you could've just done _"
This is victim blaming.
When you have been trapped in an open-air prison for your entire life, every attempt at peace has been thwarted for decades, and a US & Israel-backed Islamic fundamentalist militant group takes power, then this is a pretty predictable outcome.

 

[arrall]

But it's probably hard when the terrorists use ambulances, schools, and hospitals as cover. And prevent their people from evacuating south...

The former generally lacks evidence, and the latter is due to Israel repeatedly bombing the evacuation routes.
Nobody in Hamas is forcing civilians to stay in the path of bombs.

 

[Jen X]

Ooh so that's why we should be okay with the IDF slaughtering children. Got it, captain!

Dude you're ok with Hamas using kids as a shield but not ok with the IDf doing normal war things? Do yourself a favour and talk to a soldier and learn what happens in a war. You shoot at where rockets come from, Hamas uses it's people, real soldiers shoot to where rockets are launched. Not rocket science

 

[Jen X]

And the IDF don't shoot off from schools