The Dive's Covid Thread

[nepalnt21]

@jane douloureux so i guess that means you are throwing in the towel? cause i guarantee you that list cannot possibly demonstrate TENS OF THOUSANDS, let alone HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PPL are dying because of the vaxx (cause again, it's obvious the vaccines, although not perfect, are IMMENSELY better of a choice than viral roullette).

and again, the experts in their field (sports medicine, sports cardiology) are very sure there is not a substantial excess (and one even said there was less) of sudden cardiac deaths in sports.

i'll trust the ACTUAL experts on this matter.

No one's going to sway their position.

i tend to agree, considering nobody has posted ANY good evidence that even TENS of thousands of ppl have died from the vaccines.

the more i look at the piss poor evidence for the WILD claim that the vaccines are hurting or killing more than the virus, the stronger i feel about my position.

i guess that means i am on the correct side of history...

o well, i'm happy you guys are wrong, but lmk if you ever do come across that bomb ass evidence so i can make the right decisions in the future.

and btw, blocking me (pretty sure) will not prevent me from being able to call out the mis/ disinfo.

good day! hope nobody here gets bit by the virus (seriously, i want you guys to be ok so we can continue these enriching engagements... and also cause i want good things for ppl even if i disagree with them).

 

[alasdairm]

sadly that is not even all of them I just don’t want to keep doing this

your list does not even mention the vaccination status of many of those people.

are you assuming they are all vaccinated? and, from there, that they died because of the vaccine?

alasdair

 

[Droppersneck]

your list does not even mention the vaccination status of many of those people.

are you assuming they are all vaccinated? and, from there, that they died because of the vaccine?

alasdair

I keep telling her that they likely died from climate change, there has been a huge uptick in climate change deaths in recent years. 12 happened just the other day.

Climate change to blame for up to 17 deaths on Mount Everest, experts say

Nepal’s head of tourism says variable weather on the mountain has led to one of the deadliest years on record

www.theguardian.com

 

[nepalnt21]

09/06/21, Italy, 16 years old
16-year-old unnamed soccer player in Bergamo suffers cardiac arrest

just pulled this randomly, can you explain why this should be linked to the vaccine?

edit

your list does not even mention the vaccination status of many of those people.

are you assuming they are all vaccinated? and, from there, that they died because of the vaccine?

alasdair

egg sacked lee.

are we all aware here that sudden cardiac arrest episodes happened before covid?

 

[JGrimez]

you're such a full-of-shit asshole. if that shit were actually happening (obviously it's not), it would be all the fuck over every news channel.

*the news channels*
"SPONSORED BY PFIZER"

What you just said is the common cope of the normie. "If it were true, it would be on the television!!!" *eyeroll*
The news channels, not long ago, were telling us that going to the gym was dangerous and bad for our health.

you ever hear of occam's razor?

Of course I have.
Most vaccines = tested for a decade. Covid vacine = no long-term testing. Occam's Razor = no proof of long-term safety.
Pharmaceutical companies = MANY lawsuits and massive fines for negligence, adulteration of drugs, fraud, etc. Occam's Razor = companies are not trustworthy
mRNA technology which has never been used this way on a mass scale. Occam's Razor = you're taking part in a medical experiment.

I don't take part in medical/drug experiments. Not if they pay me and especially not if they try to coerce me by threatening my job or my freedom of movement. People who use their brains were very alarmed and skeptical of the methods used to enforce the acceptance of the mRNA injections. I'd say that most people didn't even want the shots but they felt coerced to take it or like they had no choice. That's not informed consent (they refused to even publish the ingredient list of the injections).

your problem (besides the lack of brain cells) is that you start off with an answer (worldwide conspiracy of unfuckingbelievable magnitude) and then try to jam shitty evidence in there to fit it (like a wrong puzzle piece). back the fuck up a little and see the forest.

No it's just basic common sense, analyzing the facts and listening to credible, whistleblower medical professionals who many have lost their medical licenses speaking out against the corruption and lies across the entire covid agenda. If they're willing to get stripped of their medical licenses in order to say what they want to say (in which medical debate should be encouraged, not suppressed) then they're at the very least worth listening to.

you didn't post one short video. you posted 8 bajillion videos. '

That's not even a real number. You can't even click ONE video, of the most cited doctor in the world testifying under oath of the dangers of the injections and the extent of excess deaths that the mRNA injections (not the covid virus) is causing. The fact you refuse to watch it proves that you're disingenuous when you say you want to hear what credible professionals say on the matter.

i just want one readable source, a reliable source, hopefully from someone that isn't full of shit. hopefully someone in immunology, epidemiology, something. why is it so hard for anyone to find one really solid piece of evidence? if this shit were true, it wouldn't need a buncha stoners to add it all up like we're colombo.

Now you're likening a bunch of legitimate medical experts to stoners. Have you even heard of the International Covid Summit that just took place?
You obviously have zero understanding of how the industry operates if this is the ONLY form of evidence that you're willing to accept.

 

[JGrimez]

This guy was a bit late to the truth/acceptance party but he got there eventually:

"They were not wrong. They were liars. Why do I say that they were liars when someone could say "well, being wrong doesn't make you a liar". Positively affirming something as fact, when you know it's wrong, makes you a liar. Positively affirming something as a fact when you have no reason to believe that it's true, or when you have insufficient reasons to know that it's true, makes you a liar as well."

10 myths told by Covid experts now debunked​

 

[JGrimez]

BTW when I call that guy a "liar", that's not an insult. It's just an observation.
If someone is asking for some evidence, and you present it, and they refuse to even view it because it's in a form that they deem unacceptable for consumption, then they're lying about wanting to see evidence.

 

[alasdairm]

here is a picture of some people who are full of life and did not die suddenly. thus proving that the vaccine is quite safe:

alasdair

 

[alasdairm]

and more proof the vaccine is not deadly:

alasdair

 

[Fire&Water]

Yikes!

 

[alasdairm]

You are using corny pictures of random people you don’t know to prove what?

people post names and pictures of people who have died young, or suddenly - without even knowing their vaccination status - to somehow 'prove' the vaccines are killing people.

my posts are intended to show just how stupid that is.

you have lost any shred of credibility you had with this move

exactly my point. thanks.

alasdair

 

[JGrimez]

and more proof the vaccine is not deadly:

alasdair

even the most ardent of covid true believers will admit that the covid vax has killed SOME people - therefore by definition it is deadly.
The debate is over the extent of deaths caused.

There is provably excess death post mass-vaccination.
Common sense would lead us to conclude that the mass mRNA injection campaign is the cause (especially the rise in heart conditions in young, healthy people).

If you don't have a better explanation, then you are simply denying reality.

 

[JGrimez]

British cardiologist calls for mRNA vaccines to be suspended due to heart risks (news.com.au)​

Officials Neglect Covid Vaccines’ Side Effects (WSJ)​

 

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[Nurse Ratched]

but in my defense:

multiple ppl have been frequently, and with impunity, directly insulting me in the past few weeks or longer... including baselessly calling me a liar numerous times, calling me names about my intellect (nevermind that i actually have been diagnosed with learning disabilities and have mentioned this, which makes said insults ablism), many many ad hominem attacks...

... and when i have stooped to their level and called them names, it has only ever been in retaliation for said transgressions.

I get it. Nobody likes to be attacked or insulted. " Stooping to their level " is our first instinct to defend ourselves and many people do it ( including me ) but it rarely accomplishes anything. Internet arguments are hollow and never go anywhere because the people we are arguing with are never going to see it the way we do. And we will never see it the way they do. So it goes nowhere except round and round in circles until one of the posters finally just gives up.

If multiple people have been insulting you about your learning disabilities that is not okay. Report any future comments. Can't really say that BL cares about the " liar " part.............Nobody likes to be called a liar but that's not really an insult. We have all lied at some point and we have all been called liars at some point. Not real egregious in my book. Stupid, moron, retarded, idiot, fuckwad, asshole, and several other colorful insults are more of what I was thinking. I know that there is no " list " that BL has published in what can be considered an insult. But we are all adults and I know what I don't like to be called just like all of you do. Some insults can be a jab and others quite hurtful. If I don't want to be called that then neither does anyone else.

Try not to argue. Use the report button. Mods take a look at the comment and it either stands or is deleted. Some comments aren't intended to hurt.......others are. Lets all choose our words wisely.

 

[Droppersneck]

I love him I’ve been watching him since the beginning
I really respect him
he never fucked around just presented the facts
his presentation of the omicron data in South Africa with the data of people in the hospital and icu was how I knew that we had made the turn and were going to be ok
I posted about this already the hospital had 89 people and only I think it was 9 were omicron strain so even though it was so much more contagious it was weaker

he is dropping facts
people are going to find a million ways to write off these excess deaths but he is dead on
these are real people, real deaths, and there,kano explanation
it could be this new gene therapy vaccine they coerced people to take
wouldnt that be imperative to know so you could stop the mandatory vaccines for college kids?
someone on here was like why should the senate have voted yes to investigating these excess deaths?
what is wrong with people
my brother says their npc’s
I forget which presocratic philosopher said this but he thought some animals and some people didn’t have souls and the ancient Greeks said some people were missing the spark that was essentially the essence of life and I agree that what they all are trying to explain is the unmistakable idiocy, selfishness, and lack of empathy that exists insome people that makes them like lifeless shells motivated by greed, selfishness hedonism and the most simplistic of human impulses

people are going live in denial until there is no other option for them
they can post as many digital equivalents of what comes in the picture frame you buy at Walmart
and laugh at people who are questioning the group think and party line

but like dr Campbell said silence is not acceptable to me
I have never been a follower
My heart mind and intuition would not let me
I couldn’t do it if I tried
the cognitive dissonance would drive me crazy


at least when all is said and done I can sleep at night knowing that I tried to warn people
and I feel like a lot of people feel the same way and have sacrificed careers, reputations, licenses, friendships and more

He is pretty great, but truth is the enemy living in this world of lies.

 

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I love him I’ve been watching him since the beginning. I really respect him, he never fucked around just presented the facts

Unfortunately he did recommend the jabs and took them himself. It's impossible to know whether someone is sincere or not, especially in this era of propaganda and deception, however regardless of whether he is or not I do take issue with the fact that he did recommend them. No one should have done that except those in positions of authority, i.e. those who have already sold out and have no qualms about the moral implications of potentially harming people. Incidentally he is also now a millionaire because of his channel.

my brother says their npc’s. I forget which presocratic philosopher said this but he thought some animals and some people didn’t have souls and the ancient Greeks said some people were missing the spark that was essentially the essence of life and I agree that what they all are trying to explain is the unmistakable idiocy, selfishness, and lack of empathy that exists in some people that makes them like lifeless shells motivated by greed, selfishness hedonism and the most simplistic of human impulses.

It's intuition. Intuition is an inherent capacity for instantaneous (and potentially inspirational) interior computation, one that we all possess, but not everyone has the same capacity or utilizes its potential. A soul is what we are, it can't be lost or gained. But intuition can be diminished or wilfully ignored by a persons character and/or capacity to hold the intuitive realisations.

Propaganda has a massive effect of drowning out the already diminished intuitive voice in people. Most people can no longer hear it, most people don't even sit still long enough or without noise enough to be able to hear it, metaphorically speaking. Their heads have been turned away by sophisticated propaganda techniques and omission of key information that might incline them to turn back towards it. Unfortunately a lot of people won't until their trust in their institutions has been shattered by personal trauma, often too late.

Again, this is unfortunately why despite his video content in recent times I can't hold him up as a hero figure of sorts, because he was very much a part of that hysterical propaganda phase in the initial stages. He should have known better, as should anyone who parroted the song of fear that the media created.

 

[Las Veghost grower]

If Iv said it once Iv said it a thousand times, denial and just a city in China

 

[nepalnt21]

brain damaged

or, as i've fucking said a bajillion times, i have learning disabilities. and still, i'm apparently a genius compared to some ppl on here trying to say crazy shit like hundreds of thousands of ppl are dying from the vaccines and yet the conspiracy is air tight.

You can't even click ONE video

apparently you can't even read

had already watched ONE of the mccullough testimonies which was two minutes... i had to keep pausing, rewinding, and opening new tabs to check out what he was referencing... it took me ten or 15 minutes to watch that two minute video and gain any info... which, as it turns out, was already stuff you had posted about (and if you remember, i praised your thoroughness). so really, i gained nothing and wasted my valuable time.

i watched one mccullough video where he makes wild claims from dubious estimates. waste of my time watching that obvious grifter. it takes WAYYYY longer than two minutes to watch a two minute video and actually gain anything.

an article, i can deep dive into it and really sink my teeth in and gather info much faster and more thoroughly.

if the evidence was out there, you'd be able to find ONE medical paper, ONE journal article... anything that isn't videos of con artist rhetoric.

why is soundbyte fodder your best evidence? that's humilating.

and you guys truly believe hundreds of thousands of AMERICANS ALONE are dying from the vaccines? and the hospitals, morgues, etc. are not on their knees? if so, i got bridges for the low-low.

 

[nepalnt21]

poor me victim

you have participated in the insult potshots, don't act all innocent.

you guys get upset when i say proudly that i am not being brainwashed by your propaganda and throw around words you don't understand like "troll" and "simple- minded". then i retaliate and i got popped for it. simple truth (rare around here), nothing to do with me requiring sympathy.

the only thing i want is good readable, independently verifiable evidence for yourall's WILD conspiracy theories.