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The Dive's Covid Thread

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-=SS=- said:
This really should be headline news. Vitamin D is shown, as many always suspected, to have a direct correlation with severity of outcomes. It is clear that it plays a pivotal role in our physiology. I mean it should be obvious, given we know it is produced with exposure to sunlight.. nature loves a good positive feedback loop. Sun = stay healthy. We know Vitamin A is linked with severity in measles, and vitamin C can be used in high doses IV in a variety of contexts with dramatic results.

Simple truth. There are no viruses. People are just really unhealthy. And there's infinitely less money in ensuring people eat proper foods containing these vitamins - no surprises that they want to stop meat consumption, given it contains vitamin D (and other nutrients), in order to make people sicker.
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I agree with the first part of your post. Vitamin D is extremely important.

But I fail to see where the leap to "there no viruses, it's just vitamin D deficiency" comes from. People who get plenty of vitamin D still get sick. And who is stopping meat consumption? I don't know how it is in Britain, but in America we eat metric shit tons of meat. And we have vast amounts of sick people.
 
Las Veghost grower said:
I’m serious, if history has taught us anything it’s that the 2A will save all our asses one day, pretty much a guarantee
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It's A2 to 2A 🥛

cmon
 
Xorkoth said:
I agree with the first part of your post. Vitamin D is extremely important.

But I fail to see where the leap to "there no viruses, it's just vitamin D deficiency" comes from. People who get plenty of vitamin D still get sick. And who is stopping meat consumption? I don't know how it is in Britain, but in America we eat metric shit tons of meat. And we have vast amounts of sick people.
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Historically there are cases where we thought a condition was caused by a pathogen that turned out to be actually caused by deficiencies. Scurvy (vitamin C), beriberi (vitamin B1), pellagra (vitamin B3). There might be more, but those are the three I know of.

We also know there is a direct correlation between severity of measles and vitamin A. If you look at the historical data measles basically disappeared on its own in the UK and USA before vaccination was even introduced. This was because our diets were poor and food quality itself was poor, but improvements in quality and availability during the beginning of the 20th century reversed it.

When you see massive shifts across the entire population it is revealing a simple truth. The outliers, such as those who get sufficient D3 and still get sick, are indicative of other factors within individual physiology. Perhaps they are not absorbing it, not getting other constituents needed to utilize it, etc. But when you see that Vitamin D is directly correlated with severity of outcome, as per that study, it is again revealing a simple truth. Vitamin D is clearly implicated in a biological pathway. Vitamin C has also been shown in the same light, especially when given in high doses.

I've explained it numerous times. Viruses are a misconception and when people fall ill it is generally because they are doing something wrong, not because they've inherited any particles. Being out of balance. The body continually tries to maintain homeostasis, filtering and purging toxic materials. It needs various substances to keep itself running, to keep the biological pathways active. A deficiency in one or more leads to accumulation of materials, which then results in a state of rapid detoxification (illness) because they body can not afford to keep these materials lingering around.. unless it wants to become a compost pile for bacteria and fungi.

I think you missed the point about meat.
 
-=SS=- said:
But when you see that Vitamin D is directly correlated with severity of outcome, as per that study, it is again revealing a simple truth. Vitamin D is clearly implicated in a biological pathway. Vitamin C has also been shown in the same light, especially when given in high doses.
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Correlation does not equal causation, though. It can be truth both that vitamin C and/or D and/or other nutrients can increase resistance/immunity and decrease severity of diseases, and that those diseases are initiated by a pathogen.

And yeah it's absolutely true that some diseases such as scurvy were eventually found to be caused by vitamin deficiency, but that does not automatically mean that all of them are.

I know about your position on viruses, and I think it's well thought out and that you articulate it well, and even make a compelling case. I am just not convinced that you're right. Many people over the course of human history have made very compelling cases for all sorts of claims, that are sensible to believe given the apparent evidence, and have turned out to be wrong. Including, if you're right, the very thing you're refuting.
 
all i know, is that a lot of ppl that im friends with that got the shots, are really sick right now (true story)

a few with flu like symptoms and vomiting, a few with a really bad sore throats and crackling coughs


and then if you go into the cold/flu and pain meds aisle/section of the store, they're still about half empty - ppl buying that shit up
 
Xorkoth said:
Correlation does not equal causation, though. It can be truth both that vitamin C and/or D and/or other nutrients can increase resistance/immunity and decrease severity of diseases, and that those diseases are initiated by a pathogen.
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But the angle your viewing it from is backwards. It's not about increasing immunity or resistance, a barrier or protective wall from invading pathogenic particles. It's the opposite, keeping the body flowing as it were in its ability to expel stuff that shouldn't be in the body which bacteria and fungal species are designed to clean up, and whom will move into the body to do that if the accumulation becomes large enough. You create the environment that these species are programmed for and they will colonize. Or, you stay healthy and in balance, and they don't colonize because there's nothing there for them.

Which angle, which way around is it? Well, what is more logical. Our immune system continuously fighting off invading species of bacteria and fungi which are literally everywhere, on us, in us, in every breath we take. Or, our immune system pumping out all the materials from our bodies that we can't break down ourselves, that these bacteria and fungi consume/break down as part of the natural cycle (ensuring waste products are decomposed)? The former, the current germ theory hypothesis, is just nonsensical. How would our bodies have the time or energy to engage it a constant battle? It makes no sense. Why would we evolve in that direction in the first place? Nature is all about efficiency.

I mean we literally crap out materials that we can't break down. And even those materials have already been pre-decomposed by bacteria we have living inside our guts. We couldn't live without those bacteria, it is a fundamental symbiotic relationship. You see this everywhere in nature too, such as fungi and tree root systems exchanging nutrients that the other can't utilize directly.

The analogy of germs, indeed the word itself, invokes the idea of 'war'. Is nature really at war with itself, or are we just at war with our own ignorance of her processes.
 
I took the J&J vaccine as the "experts" and "science" at the time said it was the most effective to take, and I wanted to protect my older family members and a friend who is getting cancer treatments. It felt like I had a mild cold or mild fever for about two days. I just mainly slept. I figured this is better than the alternative.

About a year later I took the moderna vaxxx and apparently it was not as powerful as the full dose Pfizer one, but I felt like I had a mild cold for 24 hours and when I was showering I felt dizzy which was scary.

I have taken a flu shot but I do not want to take more covid vaccines/boosters, etc. I have never had any type of side effects from an influenza vaccine, or any vaccine except for the COVID ones.

Something interesting that I have noticed is that people who are vaccinated or took the boost 3-5 times get sick with covid, get infected with other supposedly mild strains of the virus like xb1 and have a lot worse time recovering from them, and they get the respiratory illnesses such as RSV.

I was at a pharmacy waiting and the lady in front of me in the queue told the pharmacy technician that she had been boosted five times and wanted another covid booster with the flu vaccine. Despite what that quack doctor said it is never a good thing to do this with vaccines.





I was only boosted once and I have never had covid, or RSV, or the flu.
 
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-=SS=- said:
But the angle your viewing it from is backwards. It's not about increasing immunity or resistance, a barrier or protective wall from invading pathogenic particles. It's the opposite, keeping the body flowing as it were in its ability to expel stuff that shouldn't be in the body which bacteria and fungal species are designed to clean up, and whom will move into the body to do that if the accumulation becomes large enough. You create the environment that these species are programmed for and they will colonize. Or, you stay healthy and in balance, and they don't colonize because there's nothing there for them.

Which angle, which way around is it? Well, what is more logical. Our immune system continuously fighting off invading species of bacteria and fungi which are literally everywhere, on us, in us, in every breath we take. Or, our immune system pumping out all the materials from our bodies that we can't break down ourselves, that these bacteria and fungi consume/break down as part of the natural cycle (ensuring waste products are decomposed)? The former, the current germ theory hypothesis, is just nonsensical. How would our bodies have the time or energy to engage it a constant battle? It makes no sense. Why would we evolve in that direction in the first place? Nature is all about efficiency.

I mean we literally crap out materials that we can't break down. And even those materials have already been pre-decomposed by bacteria we have living inside our guts. We couldn't live without those bacteria, it is a fundamental symbiotic relationship. You see this everywhere in nature too, such as fungi and tree root systems exchanging nutrients that the other can't utilize directly.

The analogy of germs, indeed the word itself, invokes the idea of 'war'. Is nature really at war with itself, or are we just at war with our own ignorance of her processes.
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Hmmm, this is the first post of yours that really got me thinking, unfortunately I don’t know Jack shit about the subject so can’t make a difference either way
 
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Is nature really at war with itself, or are we just at war with our own ignorance of her processes.
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Well, in a manner of speaking... yes. Every animal consumes another life for simply to survive. So does fungus. Even many plants consume other plants, though many plants consume only nutrients and sunlight. Many animals war like we do, too... ant colonies, for example, kill each other over resources and territory. Nature is brutal.
 
jasperkent said:
Here's a great discussion between two stoners (both of whom I adore) who are on opposite sides of the vax debate:
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You adore Sean Penn? I am not a fan of Vadge and how she was an industry plant as the kids say now and not just for her "music", but Sean Penn would routinely beat the shit out of Madonna. No wonder why she is completely fucked up, has had 20+ abortions, and is in the fake Kabbala cult of Hollywood and not really Jewish or studying the occult at all.
 
ImthatMFer said:
I’m very interested in what’s referred to as damage as in details bc I got the Moderna on state( got tired of quarantines bc you’re in seg n it’s super hard on a couple aspects studies show so after half a year of in n out of quarantines I said okie doke smh) anyway I’ve always been healthy as a horse n hadn’t noticed any effects right away but I have these spells where it hurts like hell in my chest it feels like someone’s standing on it x10 n near crippling I drop everything I’m doing and try to calm it breathing technique’s my Mom always told me yet overlooked till this began. Sometimes they’re reoccurring which is hell and by reoccurring I mean after calming n and pain subsides it’ll flare up again and it’s always scary I’ve heard of heart attacks and it may be such, need to research specifics on such yet I’m 34 and have always been healthy I eat good overall and drink water mostly but if I consume more than a cup of coffee I’m in a panic to stop the flare up all over again. Scary and have done my best to overlook yet I’m aware our bodies have ways of telling us things aren’t right and realize this isn’t normal and needs acknowledgment and a way of combating if possible if nothing else I owe it to myself to identify it and learn what’s best for me even a diet plan to strengthen heart bc it’s most likely incurable and know it can’t worsen unless time under stress is prolonged.
Any info is much appreciated
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Please see a doctor in person.
 
bird.brain said:
@-=SS=-

When you say thinks like the COVID vaccine program is the biggest crime against humanity ever and I should be losing my mind... Yeah, I don't think there's any point.

It all sounds a bit crazy to me.

Anecdotal evidence is not data.
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I asked a doctor friend about the massive blood clots people are getting and the heart damage. She said it is from COVID or people getting COVID multiple times and how the virus causes blood clots and damage to the heart.

I think that in some people the vaccine and/or COVID gave them Myocarditis. Others like this man got it from the vaccine.

www.rnz.co.nz

Man who died after receiving Covid-19 vaccine not warned about myocarditis risk, inquest told

A Dunedin man whose death is linked to the Covid-19 vaccine was not warned of the risk of myocarditis, an inquest into his death has heard.
www.rnz.co.nz www.rnz.co.nz
 
Dropperneck said:
Daily reminder that this is normal, and children have always had heart attacks in large numbers.
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In my city on the TV news they said how children and teens in school in sports or in athletic classes are being taught how to use a defibulator, getting an EKG or other heart tests done, etc.

None of this was done decades ago when I was a student. Nobody reccomended this and as a child and teen, and young adult I never was told this by any medical professional, any teacher or the school itself advising people to see doctors or get an EKG, and even physical therapists and personal trainers at the gym did not talk about this or say how that as a teen going to a gym you had to see a doctor, get an EKG, etc. Yes there were sudden deaths of athletes but they were either super rare, or the media did not promote this in the news. The internet was very new and this was decades before social media, the Zucktatorship, etc.

Even fellow students who I know had heart issues, such as a heart murmer, or two girls who had heart surgery still played sports, ran track, etc.
 
Lil'LinaptkSix said:
Damn.
From what I understand there is a lot of this going on in the younger gens. From fent to other causes.
Please if a tox-screen is done let us know the gist of it?
Sorry for your loss. I am.
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I know someone who died from a fent OD as it was on marijuana he had bought from a dealer. He only smoked marijuana and he smoked herb that some dealer either purosely put fentanyl on it, or the bud came into contact with fentanyl powder such as if the dealer was hypothetically selling heroin and did not keep everything very sterile and free from contact or contamination with fent. Rest in peace.

I am very grateful that I stopped taking drugs over a decade ago.
 
Electrum1 said:
"r/silverbugs has been quarantined due to not having a sufficient amount of minorities. At reddit we stand for equity and equitable outcomes, therefore we will not allow racist, transphobic and misogynist subforums such as r/silverbugs"
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How is a web forum about collecting silver coins or actual silver jewelry, etc. racist, misogynistic, transphobic, etc.?
 
Dropperneck said:
It’s non mrna, so if you survived without any complications you should be okay. The mrna causes over production of guanines, and whole host of other side effects. Should consider urself lucky, I read Eric claptons experience with the AZ shot and it sounded brutal. Sort wild to me that folx are willing to take pharmas experimental poisons, but I get that many of you all were coerced.
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Eric Clapton has heart and liver damage from decades of hard drug addictions: alcohol, cocaine, methamphetamine, heroin, etc. Despite what he and the media claim, he is not sober and still drinks and probably uses coke and takes pharmaceutical opiates.
 
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