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paranoid android

paranoid android

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I had another psychotic episode the other day. When my brother called a nurse about it she ratted me out to the cops and the cops and paramedics showed up but by then the clonazepam had kicked in so i was no longer psychotic. Because i was psychotic i did not hide my needles before the cops showed up but as it turns out after talking to them these guys where actually human. They said they wouldnt mention to the paramedics that i shot up even though i told them that i had oded on coke 2 years ago when i was talking to them and believe it or not they kept their word and didnt rat. However because the paramedic was so nice to me and even told me that he was on dexedrine because of adhd i did mention it to him even though he didnt notice my track marks. As it turns out he was actually human to and he did not mention it to the doctors at the hospital. i told him how i was treated in the psych ward and he couldnt believe it. He didnt know solitary confinement was a thing in the psych ward. So he wrote down on my chart that i had a anxiety attack instead of psychosis so he lied for me because i was honest with him and wasent violent.

When i got to the hospital i was scared shitless because i thought i was going to be committed. However after talking to a nurse she let me go. However when i asked to use the phone to call my family they didnt have a free phone and i didnt have any change for the payphone. Then i turned around and saw 4 security guards standing there who escorted me off the premises. I then went to a pharmacy up the road where they where nice enough to let me use the fucking phone. So i was actually treated better by the goddamn motherfucking pigs then i was by medical professionals. Fuck sakes will anyone even believe this story
 
Paramedics have zero obligation to report your drug use to police. They're in the business (generally speaking, I don't know if I've had a negative experience, my last one when I was attempting suicide and had shot up meth, they came in and needles were around the place. Granted where I live, that isn't illegal to have. Impolite to have them uncapped but I live alone and I hadn't had time that day to cap them like I usually would and hadn't been home at all with my worker until then. They really advocated for me to be admitted, which I absolutely needed at the time but we realised I'm better staying home with support workers staying overnight) of saving lives.

You should be fine generally with paramedics, though I suppose it does depend on the jurisdiction but remember - cops become cops often cause they failed out at joining the military for whatever reason (usually power tripping instability. I'm not a military fan, but the screening for armed forces generally at least where I live is higher than the police). They want the job to lord over people. Unless they're like homicide detectives or sexual crime detectives. Those ones are a bit different, I don't envy their work.

Paramedics are in the business of saving lives. They're not interested in making your life harder.

I'm glad you had a good experience this time, and I hope that you continue to experience good interactions with paramedics. I have a lot of respect for the ones where I live. Some work 12 hour shifts and don't even get breaks just driving all over trying to save everyone they can.
 
Ya it is not illegal to have needles here either. maybe thats why the cops didnt care and didnt rat me out to the paramedics. I still dont fucking believe this shit
 
If their there for you safety then they can't do anything about needles legally at least in my state
 
THECATINTHEHAT said:
Yeah but they do have an obligation to report it to the hospital, not doing so is extremely unprofessional and places the patient in danger they don't need to be in.
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It's a very good thing that I wrote the words police then isn't it, and that one can assume that the paramedics passed on all relevant information to the hospital when they did the intake which included that, which it was considering it was on. My discharge summary as is standard practice.

Very confused as to the purpose of your response. I did not mention the hospital. I spoke about the police.

Highly unusual the OPs paramedics didn't do it.

Can't comment as to why, I don't live where they do and I don't hide anything from paramedics or hospital staff.
 
The purpose of the response is that both of you guys are acting like this was a good paramedic when actually it was shit one, I would have thought that was pretty obvious.

You say they had a good experience but they didn't, the medical professionals failing to properly communicate the details of a patient to each other in no way represents a good experience.
 
I don't think encouraging people to hide the true nature of their medical emergency from the people caring from them represents good advice.
 
THECATINTHEHAT said:
The purpose of the response is that both of you guys are acting like this was a good paramedic when actually it was shit one, I would have thought that was pretty obvious.

You say they had a good experience but they didn't, the medical professionals failing to properly communicate the details of a patient to each other in no way represents a good experience.
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I said that the paramedic was nice. And I mostly spoke of my own experience. I actually misread the part about the cops doing it and because I haven't slept last night, I skim read the part where he wrote the paramedic didn't tell the hospital, so my comment was written without that information, and rather from the context of the paramedics not ratting to the cops. I assumed the paramedics informed the hospital as is standard practice because I haven't slept in close to a day and a half.

Sometimes, people just make innocent mistakes and there's not a fight to win my friend.

I haven't encouraged anyone to hide anything from paramedics. I don't hide anything relevant from medical professionals and never have.

Cops don't need to know.
 
I think everyone in this thread is not from the US? I completley agree, but generally when people call 911 in the US for drug psychosis or other related mental issues the police are the first to arrive before medics.

US is so weird like that. Somebody will always show up with a gun before a stretcher.

This is why you hear about people being shot due to calling 911 themselves for psychosis or sucide and end up being shot dead for calling the people they asked for help. So sad.
 
THECATINTHEHAT said:
The purpose of the response is that both of you guys are acting like this was a good paramedic when actually it was shit one, I would have thought that was pretty obvious.

You say they had a good experience but they didn't, the medical professionals failing to properly communicate the details of a patient to each other in no way represents a good experience.
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He wanted me to get help. He knew that if he wrote down that i was a junkie that i wouldnt get any help at all. He knew his shit he was not dumb
 
You literally said in your original post that they gave you no help at the hospital so I fail to see the connection between what he did and a good outcome for you. I got no beef with you though brother I'm not here to say you did anything wrong.
 
THECATINTHEHAT said:
We're not friends 👍

Maybe you should take more care reading before handing out dangerous advice.
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I didn't hand out any advice. I commented that based on my (then) misreading of the situation that I understood his situation to be that the paramedics his his drug use from the police, but then assumed they would have passed on the relevant information to the hospital, which is standard practice where I live and what always happens.

I'm a big proponent of complete openness between patient and medical professionals in order to get the best possible outcomes for a patient.

Police are not medical professionals and do not need to know, unless a crime has been committed.

No advice has been handed out. I said that I was glad he seemed to have a good experience based on a misunderstanding that the paramedics didn't disclose his drug use to the police, not that they hid it from the doctors.

You seem intent on creating a situation here that didn't take place. I've acknowledged I misread the initial post due to sleep deprivation and have since stated that I think honestly with medical professionals is the best course of action.

I'm sure you have something much more productive to do with your day than start an argument over me being tired and misreading something, and derailing a thread. If you have nothing useful to contribute, there is really no need to comment.

@paranoid android what country do you live in? Is there a specific reason that you wanted to hide your drug use from the doctors at the hospital? In Australia I've had nurses tell me off for doing drugs but I've never been mistreated to my memory.
 
^ I live in Canada and have a script for morphine so i wasent breaking any laws. The paramedics did write down that i was on morphine but not that i shot it up. The reason i wanted to hide it was because the first shrink i saw in the hospital wrote me down as a drug addict because i smoked weed and because i took morphine for pain
 
Eligiu said:
@paranoid android whar country do you live in? Is there a specific reason that you wanted to hide your drug use from the doctors at the hospital? In Australia I've had nurses tell me off for doing drugs but I've never been mistreated to my memory.
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Everyone who has posted in this thread is not from the US. (Australia, Canada, UK).

If you are in psychosis or high on drugs in the US it is in your interest to not tell them everything. The cops with guns are always the first to arrive in this county.

I have a good story that occurred last year where I went to the emergency room in the hospital for some weird combination of psychosis and serotonin syndrome. I wasn't behaviorally too abnormal but was extremely agitated.

1st time I got triaged they concluded I did not have clinically significant SS and told me they could involuntarily commit me... or nothing, I could go home. Gave me 2mg of IM ativan.

I went home and took 1g of kratom. I went straight back to crazy agitation and delusion. I walked back to the hospital.

The nurses knew me at this point. Triaged me again, BUT THIS TIME I TOLD THEM I WAS USING KRATOM.... so they triage me but put me in "opioid protocol". They basically stip searched me and put me on suicide watch. Simply because I told them I use kratom. Nothing different happened the 2nd time, they gave me ativan and nothing else. I left with a giant bill from both visits.

I always advise people
 
THECATINTHEHAT said:
The paramedic reported psychosis as anxiety and totally failed to report IV drug use. This is gross negligence and yet you describe it as a good experience.

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You very clearly have a personal issue with me, that's fine, but you are at this stage derailing the thread pointlessly. As a mod of TDS, I am aware you have been instructed several times to be careful of how you post in here. You are repeating yourself, and I am agreeing that honesty is good. This is pointless. Please provide support to the OP.

I have stated that at the point of time I wrote the thread, I misread the original post and I was saying that the 'good experience' you speak of was that of having the paramedic not disclose the drug use to the police. I don't know how much clearer I can make that. You are deliberately trying to make it seem like I meant something I did not.

I have since stated, multiple times, that I believe in transparency between medical staff and patients to ensure the best outcome is reached for a patient.

If you have nothing beneficial to the thread to add and will continue to try and pick apart what I have already acknowledged was my sleep deprived misunderstanding of the post, which has since been corrected, there are other areas of the forum you may enjoy more.

@paranoid android it is important for the hospital staff to be aware of any and all substances in your body if they are treating you to ensure they don't give you anything that will interact with anything else.

@arrall many others I know have had poor experiences in Australia and treated like drug seekers from what I've been told. I tend not to, because I tell them everything and make their job very easy.
 
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