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The Dive's Covid Thread

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Las Veghost grower said:
I took the vax and lost control of half my face and I liked iiiit…I like it
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i saw that but supposedly she's had a wonk eye for some time now but who knows.....


Did you see Dave Navarro has long covid? they weren't letting anybody into Lollapalooza without a vaccine and now he's out of the tour with "long covid"


www.billboard.com

Jane’s Addiction Guitarist Dave Navarro Sitting Out Upcoming Arena Tour Due to ‘Long COVID’ Battle

“I am still very fatigued and will not be able to join this leg,” he said of the band’s 32-date outing with Smashing Pumpkins.
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im sure he's triple vaxxed too but ill have to dig around a little more....




New boosters no better than old ones, new study says

Advertisements for the Biden administration’s fall booster campaign will “highlight the importance” of getting the shot “to protect the ones we love” and will promote “the protection the updated COVID-19 vaccines offer against Omicron.”

However, the authors of a preprint paper published Monday revealed for the first time how the new bivalent booster performs in human beings. They summarized their findings:

“When given as a fourth dose, a bivalent mRNA vaccine targeting Omicron BA.4/BA.5 and an ancestral SARS-CoV-2 strain did not induce superior neutralizing antibody responses in humans, at the time period tested, compared to the original monovalent vaccine formulation.

“ID50 titers against three related sarbecoviruses (SARS-CoV, GD-Pangolin, and WIV1) were slightly but significantly higher in those who received a fourth monovalent vaccine dose compared to those who received a bivalent vaccine.”

“The study should be very concerning to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC),” said Dr. Madhava Setty, senior science editor for The Defender.

Setty added:

“Not only did the new bivalent formulation do no better than the old booster in eliciting an antibody response to the subvariants it was targeting, it resulted in a weaker response to related viruses. This suggests that the new booster could limit the recipient’s ability to respond to future variants.”

Indeed, the authors of the study concluded:

“These findings may be indicative of immunological imprinting, although follow-up studies are needed to determine if the antibody responses will deviate in time, including the impact of a second bivalent booster.”

Setty said that “despite the CDC’s strong support of these boosters it would be safe to say at this point that they don’t provide the added protection against BA.4 and BA.5 as claimed.”

He added: “Having no results in humans to counter these findings, the CDC is now in an embarrassing position. They had no justification in authorizing these boosters without any human trials.”
 
Mr. Krinkle said:
He added: “Having no results in humans to counter these findings, the CDC is now in an embarrassing position. They had no justification in authorizing these boosters without any human trials.”
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Indeed. Honestly the fact that they released this new "omicron booster" to the public with a "clinical trial" on 8 mice (I think that was the number; in any case same difference, whatever the small number was - of mice) was a big red flag for me. And as much as I used to defend the whole thing, it makes it clear that it has become nothing more than a money grab, if it was ever anything beyond a money grab. Even my girlfriend, who is still scared to death of covid, isn't getting this thing.
 
Xorkoth said:
Indeed. Honestly the fact that they released this new "omicron booster" to the public with a "clinical trial" on 8 mice (I think that was the number; in any case same difference, whatever the small number was - of mice) was a big red flag for me. And as much as I used to defend the whole thing, it makes it clear that it has become nothing more than a money grab, if it was ever anything beyond a money grab. Even my girlfriend, who is still scared to death of covid, isn't getting this thing.
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I still am blown away that they ‘approved’ that comerity vaccine, which was supposed to be like the phfizer vaccine, but approved. Only it’s not available anywhere in the US. It’s almost as if they just created that for the purpose of creating propaganda. They were able to push the third and second shots with propaganda claiming it was FDA approved. I still don’t get how this was legal, or how no one paid any mind to it.
 
Xorkoth said:
"omicron booster" to the public with a "clinical trial" on 8 mice (I think that was the number; in any case same difference, whatever the small number was - of mice) was a big red flag for me.
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this made me laugh with the "8 mice trials".
this is sold you know. already paid for.
whattayado?
 
Lol, no. Friends and neighbors yeah, but not people who wielded power to silence critics and opposing views


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Of course the president of the American Federation of Teachers agrees with the author since she is responsible for massive learning losses
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I'm curious. I got covid the second time about 45 days after I got my booster. I seem to see a lot of people reporting getting it shortly after they get boosted. I'm not going to jump to any conclusions, but this winter will be another data point for me... see if I get it after not getting another booster.

Then again, my girlfriend has never gotten covid, despite me having it twice and her getting boosted at the same time as I did.
 
Xorkoth said:
I'm curious. I got covid the second time about 45 days after I got my booster. I seem to see a lot of people reporting getting it shortly after they get boosted. I'm not going to jump to any conclusions, but this winter will be another data point for me... see if I get it after not getting another booster.
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The problem with that is, how do you really know that you had it at all? The testing is inherently flawed, both lateral and PCR, and with no clinically unique symptoms there is simply no definitive way a person can be sure what they 'had' was covid, a cold, or indeed if they actually 'had' anything at all. Pre-covid I would have suggested that people could be mistaking a cold for covid, or perhaps some other ailment that has overlap of symptoms, but now I'm not convinced the model of illness we're using is even correct.

Too many stories of people not getting ill when they really should have done, being around ill people. Especially given this thing is supposedly novel and no one has any real defence against it. Logically the narrative is wholly inconsistent but fear keeps us bound to it, and lack of an apparent alternative hypothesis.

There's a lot of faith and fear owing to the fact we can't see what supposedly affects us. Lot's of correlation and causation. But then there's all these little logical inconsistencies, which on a personal level might not feel like much but when millions of people have experienced the same becomes a very valid data point in itself.

Almost three years on and I still haven't been ill. Despite closely associating with someone every single week who works in a school, a supposed germ factory, and which has had cases throughout.
 
-=SS=- said:
The problem with that is, how do you really know that you had it at all? The testing is inherently flawed, both lateral and PCR, and with no clinically unique symptoms there is simply no definitive way a person can be sure what they 'had' was covid, a cold, or indeed if they actually 'had' anything at all. Pre-covid I would have suggested that people could be mistaking a cold for covid, or perhaps some other ailment that has overlap of symptoms, but now I'm not convinced the model of illness we're using is even correct.

Too many stories of people not getting ill when they really should have done, being around ill people. Especially given this thing is supposedly novel and no one has any real defence against it. Logically the narrative is wholly inconsistent but fear keeps us bound to it, and lack of an apparent alternative hypothesis.

There's a lot of faith and fear owing to the fact we can't see what supposedly affects us. Lot's of correlation and causation. But then there's all these little logical inconsistencies, which on a personal level might not feel like much but when millions of people have experienced the same becomes a very valid data point in itself.

Almost three years on and I still haven't been ill. Despite closely associating with someone every single week who works in a school, a supposed germ factory, and which has had cases throughout.
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My girlfriend hasn't gotten it either, despite taking care of me when I was sick the first time (because I was really sick), and us interacting when I would have been contagious, and being around people at work who got it, etc. She has O blood type, O negative I think, I have been hearing that that blood type seems to impart near-immunity from covid.

But for any transmissible disease, plenty of people don't get sick despite being exposed.

I definitely got sick from something. The second time if covid wasn't a thing, I would have assumed it was an average cold. The first time, it was different from anything I've had. My family members who died, died because of lung complications in the classic covid style.

But I mean, of course I'm taking it on faith to some extent, I don't know what's going on. All I know is that I definitely really got sick. I'm willing to entertain the notion that people getting boosted are actually getting sick from the vaccine (not saying they are, just that I could see it being the case, with how many of those people getting "giga-vaxxed" are getting covid after every time they get boosted). But the first time I got sick, it was before any of the vaccines were publicly available.
 
COVID jab causes innate immune suppression

There’s now ample evidence showing the COVID-19 jab causes innate immune suppression, which makes you more susceptible to all kinds of infection, not just COVID-19, as well as any number of chronic diseases.

In June 2022, Stephanie Seneff, Ph.D., Dr. Greg Nigh, Dr. Anthony Kyriakopoulos and Dr. Peter McCullough published a paper in Food and Chemical Toxicology, reviewing the mechanisms by which the shots suppress immune function and trigger disease. As noted in the abstract:

“The utilization of mRNA vaccines in the context of infectious disease has no precedent. The many alterations in the vaccine mRNA hide the mRNA from cellular defenses and promote a longer biological half-life and high production of spike protein.

“However, the immune response to the vaccine is very different from that to a SARS-CoV-2 infection.

“In this paper, we present evidence that vaccination induces a profound impairment in type I interferon signaling, which has diverse adverse consequences to human health.

“Immune cells that have taken up the vaccine nanoparticles release into circulation large numbers of exosomes containing spike protein along with critical microRNAs that induce a signaling response in recipient cells at distant sites.

“We also identify potential profound disturbances in regulatory control of protein synthesis and cancer surveillance.

“These disturbances potentially have a causal link to neurodegenerative disease, myocarditis, immune thrombocytopenia, Bell’s palsy, liver disease, impaired adaptive immunity, impaired DNA damage response and tumorigenesis.”

Suppression of Type 1 interferon signaling appears to be one of the primary mechanisms by which the shot suppresses and destroys immune competence, and repeated booster shots can reliably be anticipated to amplify any and all adverse effects.

Type 1 interferon suppression is a recipe for ill health

Type 1 interferon plays an important role in the immune response to viral infections, cancer and autoimmune diseases. So, the fact that we’re now seeing significant increases in all of these conditions is not surprising.

When a cell is invaded by a virus, it releases Type 1 interferon alpha and Type 1 interferon beta. They act as signaling molecules that tell the cell that it’s been infected. That, in turn, launches the immune response and gets it going early in the viral infection.

It’s been shown that people who end up with severe SARS-CoV-2 infection have a compromised Type 1 interferon response. Those who get the jab have an even more suppressed response.

Importantly, the antibody response you get from the COVID-19 shot is exponentially higher than what you get from natural infection, and the level of antibody response rises with disease severity. So, the shot basically mimics severe infection, and this is why boosters can spell disaster.

If your Type 1 interferon response is already deficient, your immune cells are not very capable of stopping the spread of a virus in your body. Hence, the more shots you get, and the more your Type 1 interferon response is impaired, the more likely you become to develop severe infections, be it COVID-19 or any other infection.

This also means that you’re more likely to die, and rising excess mortality statistics, which I’ll review in a moment, confirm this.

Type 1 interferon also keeps latent viruses like herpes and varicella (which causes shingles) viruses in check, and when your interferon pathway is suppressed, these latent viruses can also start to emerge.

And, indeed, the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) database reveals many who have been jabbed do report these kinds of infections.
 
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