Exactly. Exactly!.
I can stay on 30 mg. And like you, I can tolerate 28 mgs.
Tried to went down and didn't work.
Even if I make the most gradual and slow taper, the 28 mgs frontier is allways there to stop me.
Maybe one day I could find a coyote to get me to the other side of the fucking border.
Senor Moreno, if u ever decide to quit one day...my advice to you is taper until 25mg like me WITH HELP. Ask for the meds that can work for you then JUMP with assisted med. It's not worth it to taper to zero, even as slow as 2mg a month. I have tried that. Tapering to just 8mg, i gave up at 8mg i couldn't do it anymore and was back to 30mg. It destroyed me, i was suicidal, depressed, i could not function like a normal human being. It was HELL, PROLONGED HELL of endless withdrawal for a year. Until today it still haunts me. Everyday i woke up with severe debilitating muscle and joint pain, took the low dose, which felt nothing, it stopped the wd but not for long. Even Paracetamol/ Acetaminophen had better analgesia effect at the time. And the MTD lasted even less. I took at 5am by 6pm i was already in wd. This was down to 18mg. Everyday the same shit for a year until i wanted to die. The lesser the dose, below 15mg the lesser and lesser time passed before i got wd, up to a point i already have wd by noon.
The wd also did not get better over time. It was the same shit everyday. It actually got worse and worse and worse.
High dose of magnesium granule that can be dissolved in water taken before bed helped the muscle pain but taking it everyday caused me to poop like 5x a day and the overal wd caused me to have endless GERD, GOUT like symptom (joint pain), Fibromyalgia, sweating, chills, confusion, ringing in my ears and severe depression.
I tried going to a normal doc to get my blood tested. I thought maybe (in my confused mind), maybe the cause was something else than wd coz i was tapering slow. My blood check came back all normal until the doc had no idea what to do with me and just assumed i was in severe depression or going crazy. Which i was.
This wd i am experiencing right now is actually LESS SEVERE than tapering from 30mg to 8mg at that time.
Unless u can get ur hand on German MTD which has no wd at all until zero, jump from 25mg.
Below 30mg the MTD doesn't really bind to our receptors anymore (doctor said to me.) So jumping from 28 or jumping from 10 doesn't really have much of a difference. The shit is everytime u retake ur dose no matter how low, it resets the wd.
When u taper down the suffering is very long, depending how slow u taper. Some people can do it. I cannot.
I assume ur type of MTD is the same as i was taking? Liquid with syrup? (The shitty MTD)?
Every country seems to have different formulation too. It feels and taste different. The better quality one yes one can taper down. The shitty quality one, forget it.
When i jumped the severity of the wd is like this:
First 3 days just panic attacks, extreme anxiety which can be quickly solved with clonidine/ benzo. Well u read my posts day by day.
By around day 6-7 the wd gets less intense. It gets less and less until i could drop the tramal completely.
Now on day 10 i am even OK with just 300mg Codeine. I dropped 100mg in one day.
My opiate receptor however feels like it's dead. Codeine feels like...just an analgesic. Even at 400mg per day i didn't feel high. Only that day when i drank curcumin which precipitated wd then when i took my next dose i was high a little. Just a little and lasted only 10-15mins.
Next day Codeine doesn't feel anything again. I even started to think maybe paracetamol and benzo can work as opposed to codeine and benzo for wd.
Benadryl also helps knock me to sleep. Even better than benzo. The benzo also after day 5 only works best in lower doses. Which is weird.
Well i havent reach the end yet but if i compare my experience from tapering to this wd now, this one is FAR LESS SEVERE.
