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Mass Shooting and Gun Control Megathread

mal3volent said:
So I assume the UK has banned all knives then, right? Since you guys have a problem with knife attacks?
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Of course not. That would be silly. Knives have many uses.

Guns only have one - to maim or kill.

But we do have restrictions upon their sale and anyone that's looks under 25 has to provide proof of age.

I'd rather face someone with a knife than someone with a gun...
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
Guns only have one - to maim or kill
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Right... like an intruder breaking into your home. Or a deer.

I'd be fine with banning everything other than handguns and hunting rifles. And increase funding for mental health services. Free universal trade schools and community colleges.

Thats never gonna happen though. Because conservatives don't want to and liberals don't have the balls to push for it. Instead they will just pretend like stronger background checks, closing loopholes and dumb shit like that is going to make a difference. Then they'll lose and move on when they can.
 
Snafu in the Void said:
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the idiots LARPing as a swat team who failed the children
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I would rape every singe on of them at a airsoft or paintball field in gym shorts n a white T…fucking dummies feel like if they dress the part the skills will follow
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
The only people that have failed the children are your government for not standing up to the NRA and rednecks wearing baseball caps with 'TITS' emblazoned across the front.
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I agree the NRA and the govt have a lot of responsibility in this

But I don’t think you can totally exonerate the Uvalde police dept. They were literally just standing there and not attempting to enter the building and take the down the shooter.
 
alasdairm said:
right on! because a search for "gun control" produces zero results: https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=Gun control&src=typed_query&f=top

no. wait. nevermind.

alasdair
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Can you spot the difference between the people saying "gun safety" and the people saying "gun control" ?

Hint: one group is full of Democratic Party leaders:

Kamala Harris
AOC
Bernie Sanders
Elizabeth Warren
The New York Times
Charles Booker
Val Demings
Occupy Democrats
Gabby Giffords
Gavin Newsom
Variety
Eric Swalwell

etc.


the other is everyone else. (Without the Congress-approved phrases)

Thanks for proving his point.
 
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i believe he's manufacturing an issue that is not there to deflect. if you - or he - disagree, i'll agree to disagree.

there's a saying that if you're not part of the solution you are part of the problem.

arguing over the semantics of control vs. safety doesn't seem, to me, to be part of a solution.

alasdair
 
mynorthwest.com

WA's largest mental health org: 'Violence is not a product of mental illness'

Lauren Simonds, the CEO of the National Alliance of Mental Illness, Washington State, says anger is to blame, and anger is not mental illness.
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“Violence is not a product of mental illness,” Simonds said. “Violence is a product of untreated anger. The contribution of mental illness to overall gun violence in the United States is smaller than two percent. When we do see mental illness involved in gun violence, it’s really gun violence against one’s self because more than 60% of gun deaths in the United States are suicides. Mental illness is a significant underlying cause of suicide. But mental illness is not an underlying cause of community violence.”

Simonds says there are many other warning signs we should look for.

“The risks of violence increase slightly if one has co-occurring substance use or dependency or if one grew up in a setting where there was violence or childhood abuse,” said Simonds. “If they were bullied or, quite honestly another contributing factor is, just being young and male. Are they isolated and young and male? Do they have impulsivity and anger issues? People have a really hard time understanding how somebody could walk in somewhere and shoot people and kill them. They must be mentally ill. What else could it possibly be? It’s untreated anger, and anger is not a mental illness.”
 
Mr. Krinkle said:
mynorthwest.com

WA's largest mental health org: 'Violence is not a product of mental illness'

Lauren Simonds, the CEO of the National Alliance of Mental Illness, Washington State, says anger is to blame, and anger is not mental illness.
mynorthwest.com


“Violence is not a product of mental illness,” Simonds said. “Violence is a product of untreated anger. The contribution of mental illness to overall gun violence in the United States is smaller than two percent. When we do see mental illness involved in gun violence, it’s really gun violence against one’s self because more than 60% of gun deaths in the United States are suicides. Mental illness is a significant underlying cause of suicide. But mental illness is not an underlying cause of community violence.”

Simonds says there are many other warning signs we should look for.

“The risks of violence increase slightly if one has co-occurring substance use or dependency or if one grew up in a setting where there was violence or childhood abuse,” said Simonds. “If they were bullied or, quite honestly another contributing factor is, just being young and male. Are they isolated and young and male? Do they have impulsivity and anger issues? People have a really hard time understanding how somebody could walk in somewhere and shoot people and kill them. They must be mentally ill. What else could it possibly be? It’s untreated anger, and anger is not a mental illness.”
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this is RERALLY stupid and bringing up semantical shit

yeah just give these people anger management classes that'll stop all the violence in the world

2017 Las Vegas shooter was just a normal person... he was just very angry and shot thousands of bullets at thousands of people :'( totally just an anger problem even though he was rich and by all accounts had a great life.... stfu

stupid

maybe it doesn't fit the textbook definition of what mental illness is... because it's not in the DSM-V... doesn't mean it doesn't need to be addressed as such, they still need THERAPY and MENTAL HELP

"So it definitely contributes to the stigma of having a mental illness and people’s willingness to share that they have mental illness"... this person is just trying to white knight for mentally ill people



also seems a bit politically motivated statement:

"And these are countries who, when they have had a mass gun violence incident, their leaders have created common-sense gun laws, which is something that our leaders are unwilling to do. They have clearly accepted that guns are more important than the lives of the citizens of our country.”

But she wants to be clear: NAMI does not advocate for gun rights.

Simonds finds it interesting that gun advocates are using mental illness as a scapegoat,"
 
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alasdairm said:
i believe he's manufacturing an issue that is not there to deflect. if you - or he - disagree, i'll agree to disagree.

there's a saying that if you're not part of the solution you are part of the problem.

arguing over the semantics of control vs. safety doesn't seem, to me, to be part of a solution.

alasdair
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Jeez, not everything is a binary choice


Anyway, more and more red flags keep popping up in the shooters history. I don't even know how many this makes now, but its a lot

 
Mr. Krinkle said:
mynorthwest.com

WA's largest mental health org: 'Violence is not a product of mental illness'

Lauren Simonds, the CEO of the National Alliance of Mental Illness, Washington State, says anger is to blame, and anger is not mental illness.
mynorthwest.com


“Violence is not a product of mental illness,” Simonds said. “Violence is a product of untreated anger. The contribution of mental illness to overall gun violence in the United States is smaller than two percent. When we do see mental illness involved in gun violence, it’s really gun violence against one’s self because more than 60% of gun deaths in the United States are suicides. Mental illness is a significant underlying cause of suicide. But mental illness is not an underlying cause of community violence.”

Simonds says there are many other warning signs we should look for.

“The risks of violence increase slightly if one has co-occurring substance use or dependency or if one grew up in a setting where there was violence or childhood abuse,” said Simonds. “If they were bullied or, quite honestly another contributing factor is, just being young and male. Are they isolated and young and male? Do they have impulsivity and anger issues? People have a really hard time understanding how somebody could walk in somewhere and shoot people and kill them. They must be mentally ill. What else could it possibly be? It’s untreated anger, and anger is not a mental illness.”
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Makes me angry when I hear politicians say things like "There's no room for hate" or "eliminate all hate".

I get it that TOO much hate is unhealthy, but hate is a healthy emotion as long as its expressed properly and not bottled up until somebody blows up.

What do they think trying to suppress all hate online is going to result in, especially with people who spend most of their time online...
 
Mr. Krinkle said:
well when you're so angry that you wanna go murder a bunch of innocent children, i'd have to say that's a mental health issue - no? it's just anger?
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exactly, maybe not a diagnosable illness by definition...

but according to that lady, no, killing children is just an emotion :rolleyes:... a common emotion we all have from time to time right?
 

Why DSM-V Needs to Address Anger

Article AbstractLetter to the Editor
www.psychiatrist.com www.psychiatrist.com

Why DSM-V Needs to Address Anger​

It has been called "the chief enemy of public happiness and private peace."1 In fact, anger is now as common a reason for patients to seek mental health treatment as anxiety and depression.2 "Mood swings" and "anger management" have entered the public vernacular. And, whether the anger manifests domestically, in traffic, or as mass shootings, few would dispute that "dysfunctional" anger (including but not limited to aggression) is a significant public health concern.
 
I get what they're trying to say.

But if violence is a product of anger and anger can sometimes be a product of mental illness, I don't see a huge distinction there.
 
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