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Wars, Invasions, & Imperialism Thread v. Ukraine & Russia

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It's easy to spot and dissect the guff in the USA, almost to the point of it being comically obvious and kindergarten level in its sophistication
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If there's one thing the UK is a world leader in, besides financial corruption, then it certainly is propaganda. It's easy to spot and dissect the guff in the USA, almost to the point of it being comically obvious and kindergarten level in its sophistication because of that red vs blue paradigm. But our stuff is sneaky, sophisticated, drawing on expert input from the field of psychology - its main weakness is the politicians who are so fucking useless they give the game away just by opening their mouths.

I think we're too arrogant to admit we're being conned. We love the patronizing air of intellectual superiority that our establishment puts forward.
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I love Indian media, hands down.
India cannot pick a side in the conflict, so they're pretty open about what's going on

once you get over the funny accents it's pretty solid
 
Pickledlemons said:
That might have been true the first couple days, but now its indiscriminate. 90% of Mariupol is destroyed. Shelling day and night all over the country. How is that ' minimizing civilian casualties?'

The afghan war is just whataboutism. I don't see anyone here defending the afghan war, I'm certainly not.. but I am 100% sure that a war between the US and Afghanistan doesn't justify a war between Russia and Ukraine. Its a red herring, completely irrelevant.
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It shows the hypocrisy. The crocodile-tear media actually gives zero fucks about Ukrainian citizens.

haradik said:
JGrimez said:
Russian military is taking more hits than it should due to its attempt to minimize civilian casualties.

I live in Kyiv. And every morning they shell at least a few houses. They aim at houses with a height of more than 9 floors. The town of Bucha, 15 kilometers from Kyiv, was turned into ruins. Mariupol became a hostage city. blackmail "green corridor". 1,500 women and children in the basement of the Drama Theater littered with rubble (here it is worth noting that a bomb was dropped there two hours later, after the evacuated resident said live about how many people were hiding there) I am talking on a telegram with a man from occupied Kherson: break into apartments at night and take people away in an unknown direction. Method 1937. Etc. 70% of Russians are brainwashed with propaganda. Is this an attempt to minimize civilian casualties? No, this is blood and terror. It didn’t work out “for good”, which means we will beat some, so that others would be afraid. Until fear paralyzes. This is their method.
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If civilians vacate a building and the Ukrainian military moves in to fire at Russia soldiers - then the building gets taken out by the Russian military - then it no longer can be called a civilian building.
Although they could still call it that in order to make the Russian military look bad (just like recently they bombed a kindergarten full of Ukrainian soldiers).

I'll tell you what though, I feel sorry for the people in the West brainwashed enough to "volunteer" to fight for Ukraine against the Russians. They're being sent out on suicide missions to be used as cannon fodder.
 
Xorkoth said:
This is a laughable statement that is not even close to true.
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It's a tad hyperbolic but there's a lot of truth to what I said so you may not be paying attention. It depends on the environment and circumstances.

For eg. try this social experiment (don't really, it's just an example):
-Wear a USA hat and hold a USA flag and walk through an ANTIFA rally.
-You will get attacked. So defend yourself against the ANTIFA members.
-If you are successful then you will be charged even though you were acting legally.
 
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I mean in a way he has to win, and as soon as possible, or a peaceful resolution ofc,
because you don't want Putin to ever get into a situation where he tells himself "You know what? Fuck it"
You cannot back someone with power for life and fucking nuclear arms into a corner, that's just sacrificing all of Europe, in this case.

But way it's going to go, he's going to be cornered.
First weapons, now troops & doodads, I think Europe is entirely fucked to be honest

I don't know how this ends if Ukraine actually "wins" with NATO support,
or the entire process is getting stalled longer and longer

"Backing a power-hungry totalitarian leader into a corner: not cool NATO"
one for the history books I'm afraid :ROFLMAO:
 
Pickledlemons said:
It does? From who? I remember a lot of coverage and criticism of the afghan war.
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Not from the media, or the people who follow all the establishment narratives.
The war in Afghanistan actually had a lot of support originally (same with Iraq) due to the trauma of 9/11 still being fresh in everyone's minds (and them wanting revenge).
 
We live in very tense times. World war 3 will end as quickly as it starts in a flash of nuclear light.

I wish i had the money to buy my own bunker and have raditation outfit like it was fallout 3.

This shit is real life. As soon as putin launches any type of mini nuclear bomb will be the time the end of the world is near. It will esclate to MAD.

Expect america has been investing all their money into the army. America defense tech is light years ahead.

Money speaks.

Soviet army was nothing without america. Remeber russia still in debt 50 billion to the allies for the war loans.

America built that soviet industy. Thats why it was cutting edge then. Then america left them

and it was all down hill.

But the soviets always had shit logisitics.
 
There won't be a large scale nuclear conflict. It is just a threat stick to beat the public of the world with, into compliant submission. Both Russia and China are fully onboard with the globalist bullshit.

The world is a stage.
 
Yeah it is interesting to dissect the differences between warring nation-states and the larger globalist agenda at play.
My latent optimism makes me think that Putin is genuinely opposing the unipolar globalist world order and that's why the psychopathic western leaders are going after him so viciously.
Because let's be real, the US does not care about Ukraine. The state was simply used as a springboard to attack Russia.
There is not shortage of experts who explained and predicted exactly what is happening now - many years ago.
The US knew that they were baiting Russia into defending their interests using their military and they wanted that in order to make Russia look bad.
And we know it's bullshit simply compared to the way that the US and globalist media frame their own (much more murderous) military operations.

There's also this:

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which is hilarious considering all the rhetoric that we've heard over the past 5 years from the people who went from pussy-hats to StandWithUkraine t-shirts.
 
"Russia fired its Kinzhal hypersonic missile for the first time ever yesterday against a Ukrainian arms depot.
These missiles are 8x faster than a Tomahawk. They are nuclear capable. No NATO country has the technology to match it, or even scarier, to counter it.
My guess is Putin showed this off to silence all the morons calling for a no fly zone. I bet that kind of talk will end now.
Side note: I suspect the hypersonic drones that were following the US air force and nuclear sites in the last couple of years were some kind of cutting edge Russian or Chinese tech similar to this.
The Pentagon suggested last year that the speed and maneuverability of these drones was physically impossible and concluded it may belong to aliens from outer space. I wish I was joking."

 
TripSitterNZ said:
We live in very tense times. World war 3 will end as quickly as it starts in a flash of nuclear light.

I wish i had the money to buy my own bunker and have raditation outfit like it was fallout 3.

This shit is real life. As soon as putin launches any type of mini nuclear bomb will be the time the end of the world is near. It will esclate to MAD.

Expect america has been investing all their money into the army. America defense tech is light years ahead.

Money speaks.

Soviet army was nothing without america. Remeber russia still in debt 50 billion to the allies for the war loans.

America built that soviet industy. Thats why it was cutting edge then. Then america left them

and it was all down hill.

But the soviets always had shit logisitics.
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Buy your own bunker?If the planet will die what you will do it nbthat bunker man?200-300 km away from me is Hell.If the bomb drop i wish it could drop right upon my head....even DNA don't want save from me.Guilty is Putin,cause He is cold blooded killer,guilty is Zelenski,cause this innocent victims fall upon his head,(he had a choice to survive in the name of life)not only on Putin.Guilty as always are US,cause they all acts hush,hush and after than they are progressive liberators from the force of darkness.This is a God will-this horror.I don't know why.
 
Transgender women attempting to flee Ukraine are being turned back at the border and told to return home to fight.

The reason, according to Ukrainian border guards? They’re men!

 
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