Sex + Drugs Meth & Sex Megathread

[woyzeck]

When I use meth I tend to masturbate more. I guess having sex with myself is kinda gay?

Stim dick is so fucking hot

 

[unodelacosa]

I can’t stand Ritalin and don’t like coke much.

Coke is too short in duration, but… cocaine + ethyl alcohol go really well together, in my opinion, which is odd because I like neither of them on their own. But combined they’re pretty good if you don’t mind the high cost of blow. I’m also a fan of methamphetamine. However, I do enjoy the effects of MPDV and a-PVP, both inhibitors not releasors, so idk…

I love dexamfetamine and tolerate it extremely well while it provides exceptional therapeutic value with near zero side effects. I also love Meth and can happily enjoy epic amounts for extended periods with very little discombobulation let alone psychosis etc etc.

Yeah I’m not prone to drug-induced psychosis on stims either, but know plenty who are. I wonder how common this phenomenon is worldwide…

So I think your theory might by an hypothesis worth further testing if more data points available.

There’s data, but we’re talking about individual preferences and subjective opinions which have limited scientific use.

Regarding the aforementioned data, consider the various reuptake and binding affinities for common stims: https://www.reddit.com/r/Stims/comments/1w8w1b/various_release_reuptake_and_binding_affinities/

 

[jasperkent]

Coke is too short in duration, but… cocaine + ethyl alcohol go really well together...

Yup.
I was addicted to that combo long before studies came out about cocaethylene. Great high. I liked it a bit too much.

 

[Atomic_Decay]

There’s data, but we’re talking about individual preferences and subjective opinions which have limited scientific use.

I might have misunderstood you, but I think the validity of your statement here depends a great deal on where one draws the boundaries of science.


Understanding and changing human subjectivity - the individual experience of oneself - can be and is approached scientifically all the time. Psychology, for example, although the scientific rigour of psychology is often questioned because the experiments underpinning now standard theory are often so difficult to replicate.

If you want to create neuroleptic drugs you need to incorporate subjectivity into your science - unless you are only interested in controlling manifest behaviour (old school ‘restraint’ drugs) rather than improving individual quality of life.

Current research using brain imaging to understand how psychedelics work vis a vis brain structure and neurochemistry, as another example, rely heavily on self-reported changes in the experience of subjectivity. Although the sample sizes often aren’t big enough to genrate sufficient confidence in the statistical inferences such studies sometimes deaw.

 

[FuckinAcidMan]

Cocaine—even good cocaine—is overrated and very overpriced. To add to it: it’s cut all to shit far too frequently (though recently the quality seemed to have improved all over…)

Fundamentally, coke vs meth comes down to a triple monoamine reuptake inhibitor (cocaine is an SNDRI) versus a triple monoamine releasing agent (methamphetamine is an SNDRA). I find most people prefer either one or the other. What’s more, I find usually people who like methylphenidate (Ritalin) also tend to really like cocaine, which makes sense because they’re both reuptake inhibitors. However, people who prefer Adderall to Ritalin generally prefer meth to coke, from my limited observations anyway, which also makes sense being that they’re both releasing agents.

It’s just a pet theory though…

EDIT: I should mention the caveat here that sometimes cocaine’s shorter duration is preferred for reasons of practicality.

Yeah I'm a ritalin person for sure and enjoy cocaine and coca leaves more than say adderall or something else amphetamine based (have not ever taken methamphetamine personally but I have nothing against it morally or philosophically)


Good amphetamine pharmaceuticals are great but I cannot sustain that kind of energy in my body for more than a few days

I find amphetamine is much more emotional and "vibey" kinda like MDMA/Psychedelics


Ritalin and cocaine remind me of alcohol/opiods/tobacco

More of a dark, empty feeling that is peaceful and cool ( not cool as in hip, like literally cold, my hands and feet feel a bit chilly until I get to moving my body doing tasks that are physically active)

Amphetamine is very warm in comparison (sweaty palms and a more open and confident "flushing/blushing" sensation like when you are in love or feeling a deep sense of 'Belonging')


I mean I just took 30mg of IR Ritalin which is actually my prescribed dose twice a day.

I usually just break them all in half and do 6 10mg doses through out the day

Sometimes I take 40-50 mg at once and save the remaining 10-20 mg to smooth out the comedown and "crashy" feeling so I dont crave depressants or sedatives as much


Ritalin for me has taken in a dosing pattern quite similar to a more drawn out cocaine session (the redose is more pleasurable each time until you decide to stop)

it's quite active orally, I don't understand the appeal of snorting methylphenidate

 

[Joey]

I've been pretty extremely promiscuous these past 4-5 years on and off. That's often meth related. Meth is extremely invigorating sexually and it's fucking INTENSE getting off on it. Luckily I have zero issues staying hard or anything like that like a lot of guys do. I've had it before but it's more in the past at this point with meth. One, because I'm not using it. Two, because I found that it's mostly psychological. The vasoconstriction with amphetamines is a true story, but my cock still isn't getting any smaller. As a matter of fact, with meth it's usually the other way around!

 

[Atomic_Decay]

The only way I’m going to stay off meth for any length of time is to give up sex too. I estimate that it’s going to require abstinence from both for at least a year before I’m fit for a normal romantic relationship with a normal non-drug fiend woman.

 

[LucidSDreamr]

I don't use meth. The length of time he masterbates is the meth but not the fact that he's picking porn over sex.

It's pornography addiction where you come to prefer porn/maturation to sex...sex with anyone including the actress.

You'd literally rather watch the porn of the actress than have sex with the same porn star.

It's a form of porn addiction. I have it. I only look at porn 4 times a week and Masterbate for a few minutes...but it's the very fact that I prefer porn to sex thar makes it an addiction not that I spend too much time doing it

 

[AbbeyLee]

I don't use meth. The length of time he masterbates is the meth but not the fact that he's picking porn over sex.

It's pornography addiction where you come to prefer porn/maturation to sex...sex with anyone including the actress.

You'd literally rather watch the porn of the actress than have sex with the same porn star.

It's a form of porn addiction. I have it. I only look at porn 4 times a week and Masterbate for a few minutes...but it's the very fact that I prefer porn to sex thar makes it an addiction not that I spend too much time doing it

Pornland: How Porn Has Hijacked Our Sexuality

Professor Gail Dines has written about and researched t…

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[AbbeyLee]

I dated a porn addict for a while. Looking back he was fkn filthy. One time my daughter (around 6yo) got up in the morning and walked into the lounge room. He was in there on the computer as usual, and I heard him tell her to "get back to bed". I knew by the tone exactly what he was doing. Thankfully he always had a towel over himself, but that makes me a bit sick to think about.

All men I've been with do it to some extent. I'd probably be a bit concerned if they had no interest. But porn addicts are a special breed. This guy was on forums where they discussed actresses, scenes and stuff!!

Meth does make them obsessive about sex and takes ages for them to "finish". I don't know if the two go hand in hand though -- never had a bf who uses meth. The porn addict was an alcoholic (bottle of whiskey a day) and I think he liked weed. If he'd been at it for hours I'm not sure what would've become of him

 

[TotallyNotAnAlt]

No it is not weird, you said you are bisexual. I have NEVER USED METH AND NEVER WILL.

IT scares me, and most gay men I know who have used iT or who love to parTy wind up getting POZZED with multiple strains of HIV and get AIDS much faster than poz people who have safe sex and take meds daily, get Hep C, and wind up getting SPUN and gang fucked, or getting their asses completely wrecked by fisTs, arms, large dildos, etc.

A gay friend who had used METH since the mid 1970s until about half a decade ago said how it removes your inhibitions and that sometime during the mid or late 1980s he used some METH on the weekend and went out late at night and fucked some random guy unsafe, and was certain he had been infected with HIV but he got tested once, and again half a year later and was HIV NEG, and was later tested for Hep C when the test was developed and was neg for it as well as all sexual diseases.

I know in many large cities such as NYC, Philadelphia, Miami, South Beach, ATL, DFW, Chicago, SF, L.A., SD, Berlin, London, Paris, Rome, Athens, Moscow, Warsaw, Prague, Budapest, Madrid, Amsterdam, Brussels, and resort towns like Provincetown, Sitges, Mykonos, Fort Lauderdale, etc. METH use is so super common and so is unsafe sex that young adults who were not even born during the GRIDS/AIDS/HIV pandemic which started in the 1970s and was known about by 1984/1985 think that there is no way they will get pozzed, that there is no need to have safe sex, that if they become Poz that it is "no big deal HIV is manageable and like being diabetic!", etc. or that using METH and getting POZZED are "no big deal". 8)

where u hear the term pozz from? i first saw it while on a huge crack and coke binge and i 'stumbled' across a strange website used by men that like breeding and beinhg bred. i saw talk of pozz parties and i was like wtf? the most depraved comment was a poster that claimed to live with a straigh guy and his gf. he said one day the guy banged the gf and after left the used condom rolled up in tiolet paper in the garbage. so after this other guy goes into the bathroom, retrieves the condom, sticks a funnel in his ass, squeezes the cum out of the codom throu the funnell and into his ass. when i read that i was like eek! eek! eek! and went to take a shower until the coke started wearing off.

 

[unodelacosa]

where u hear the term pozz from? i first saw it while on a huge crack and coke binge and i 'stumbled' across a strange website used by men that like breeding and beinhg bred. i saw talk of pozz parties and i was like wtf? the most depraved comment was a poster that claimed to live with a straigh guy and his gf. he said one day the guy banged the gf and after left the used condom rolled up in tiolet paper in the garbage. so after this other guy goes into the bathroom, retrieves the condom, sticks a funnel in his ass, squeezes the cum out of the codom throu the funnell and into his ass. when i read that i was like eek! eek! eek! and went to take a shower until the coke started wearing off.

It’s pretty obvious how he likes to get down, and there’s nothing wrong with that. I just encourage people to stay open minded about drugs and not cast their aspersions on others who use them, especially out of jealousy b/c they‘re either too afraid to try them, or they really sucked at doing drugs and had to quit… Otherwise, you’ll find ppl are either into drugs, or ambivalent about their use.

Also that story wasn’t all that gross, was it? I mean, yeah sure, someone else’s used condoms are inherently kinda gross, but “eek! eek!”-and-shower-worthy? Idk. I’ll assume you’re not being homophobic here, because regardless, that’s an unusual act to describe, but there are weirder yet I’m sure.

 

[Atomic_Decay]

It’s pretty obvious how he likes to get down, and there’s nothing wrong with that. I just encourage people to stay open minded about drugs and not cast their aspersions on others who use them, especially out of jealousy b/c they‘re either too afraid to try them, or they really sucked at doing drugs and had to quit… Otherwise, you’ll find ppl are either into drugs, or ambivalent about their use.

Also that story wasn’t all that gross, was it? I mean, yeah sure, someone else’s used condoms are inherently kinda gross, but “eek! eek!”-and-shower-worthy? Idk. I’ll assume you’re not being homophobic here, because regardless, that’s an unusual act to describe, but there are weirder yet I’m sure.

It’s no filthier than some young broke IV meth fiends draining the dregs of every discarded needle in a dealer’s house to rustle up half a shot and god knows what viruses.

 

[TotallyNotAnAlt]

It’s pretty obvious how he likes to get down, and there’s nothing wrong with that. I just encourage people to stay open minded about drugs and not cast their aspersions on others who use them, especially out of jealousy b/c they‘re either too afraid to try them, or they really sucked at doing drugs and had to quit… Otherwise, you’ll find ppl are either into drugs, or ambivalent about their use.

Also that story wasn’t all that gross, was it? I mean, yeah sure, someone else’s used condoms are inherently kinda gross, but “eek! eek!”-and-shower-worthy? Idk. I’ll assume you’re not being homophobic here, because regardless, that’s an unusual act to describe, but there are weirder yet I’m sure.

nah trust me i like a good cock like most here. eek eek yes and the shower was needed anyways since it had been a couple days and i was smellin a little ripe. the site was basically all about unsafe sex and ppl that seemed to have an hiv fetish.

 

[unodelacosa]

It’s no filthier than some young broke IV meth fiends draining the dregs of every discarded needle in a dealer’s house to rustle up half a shot and god knows what viruses.

Or how about those on meth that are into recovering the 25% unconverted meth from their own urine, usually by drinking said pee? That’s tough. Not the most social route of administration either, I would imagine, lol

 

[Atomic_Decay]

Or how about those on meth that are into recovering the 25% unconverted meth from their own urine, usually by drinking said pee? That’s tough. Not the most social route of administration either, I would imagine, lol

Urban myth!!!

 

[unodelacosa]

nah trust me i like a good cock like most here. eek eek yes and the shower was needed anyways since it had been a couple days and i was smellin a little ripe. the site was basically all about unsafe sex and ppl that seemed to have an hiv fetish.

I think to an extent, there are a few ideas at play here with this concept:

1. People with HIV seek others who are also HIV-positive so as to obviate the need to worry about contracting the disease. If all parties involved already have HIV, that’s no longer a concern, and though still not safe, many people use this as a reason to eschew safer sex practices.
2. In certain gay circles, there’s a bit of a status symbol to have HIV and also easily afford the medications.
3. Sex is both magically delicious and really fucking gross. And anyway when you really think about it: sex is super hella disgusting, and we’d all think this all the time were it not for the hormones & such wired into us, playing games with our heads and blessing/cursing all of us with sex drives and the inexplicable animal appeal it, like the talking monkey meat puppet avatars all of our brains ride around in during this life, inefficient ape-beast homo sapiens sapiens model that requires ~8 hrs. of charging a day…

 

[Atomic_Decay]

That liminal space between deliciousness and grossness is where the real magic lives…

 

[unodelacosa]

Urban myth!!!

I’m afraid not, my friend. I have witnessed it with my own two eyes, much to my poor eyes’ dismay, for really, and more than once. One time, I went over to old acquaintance's place bc I happened to be in their neighborhood. I called first to say hey, but they didn’t answer, and this was a time when they would be home. So I swung by anyway thinking: if he’s got company over or something, I’ll just bounce, but there was no one else there, just his car out front. From the door I smelled a strange odor and thought I could see smoke from the semi-opaque door-window panels he had…

So I bang on the door, concerned, and after not too long, there’s my guy in a robe having just woken up. I step inside his place and almost immediately gag/vomit. I dart to his back yard, and make it outside in time to hold it together. Turns out, what he was doing was exactly this meth-piss practice, except this time he was attempting to boil down the total urine volume in a casserole dish in his oven… the problem is that, because he was out of meth, he was having narcolepsy and had fallen asleep while all the urine had evaporated into his place and the casserole dish had a layer of burnt urinary metabolites and whatnot. Good lord was that ever pungent and disgusting.

Then he proceeded to tell me about how he had gotten into this tinkle tina shit, (or something corny like that). Some sex worker woman told him about it, and she regularly drinks her own urine. We’ve both seen it… So idk, I can see why you would think it’s an urban myth, but in my experience? It seems to be real, and there are a lot of forums evidently that appear to take the subject seriously, and not in an ironic way… ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[unodelacosa]

That liminal space between deliciousness and grossness is where the real magic lives…

Very poetic of you, bonus points for using “liminal” in this context

It’s delicious because it’s gross, and it’s gross because it’s delicious. In the sense that maybe we’re all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, and but there is only ONE of us, the idea of ego is an illusion, then we’re like a giant sexual ouroboros, consuming/blowing ourselves in a Möbius strip of reincarnation until we fulfill our cosmic Dharma as humanity and then we return to the infinity of Godhead, as we’ve always been.

At least, that‘s what 5-MeO-DMT told me. Probably pretty good advice… if you’ve got shit for brains. But then all words are incantations.

Youth is wasted on the young.