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Covid-19 The New Covid Megathread v.Oh-my-cron!

am i the only fuck who got nothing for getting vaxed expect perma heart damage. Everybody got handed out loads of free shit yet when i got vaxed in the fucking ghetto they gave us nothing
 
omg some fucking dickhead was suppose to be self isolating after arriving into NZ with omricon and instead went out and fucking went to all the clubs after christmas.
 
Perforated said:
Gawd! I took 200 ug of acid 2 hours ago and still managed to see that the whole concept of VAERS under-reporting factor (URF) used by this author is deceitful. Given that nobody had ever heard of VAERS a couple of years ago, and that reports have skyrocketed since it has been publicised endlessly online by “vaccine-hesitant” people a data scientist would be much more concerned about the impact of a new over-reporting factor (ORF!).

Here is the link to raw data - check it out and see what the data says: https://vaers.hhs.gov/data.html

Plus, we’ve dealt with the value of anecdotes…
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Nonsense, there is no way that VAERS is over-reported. A study was done through Harvard and the HHS which found that "fewer than 1%" of vaccine adverse reactions are reported to VAERS - for many reasons. It's also an excuse that government institutions used when they were pressed under oath by ICAN regarding vaccine safety. They were forced to admit that VAERS - which is the most comprehensive vaccine reaction database that we have - was unreliable and couldn't be used for analysis of deaths and injuries. So in actuality you cannot say with any credible proof that "vaccines are safe and effective" overall since we simply do not know the true extent of vaccine injuries. Now with regards to covid deaths I don't think the % of reporting is <1% but 4-5x under-reported like Dr McCullough claimed is more realistic. Which would still be extremely shocking. That means that over 100,000 people would have been killed by these vaccines already (I'm surprised but not surprised that people aren't freaking out over the officially-recorded 20,000+ vaccine deaths).

dalpat077 said:
Here. If Israelis or Jews start dropping like flies in Israel I'd say that'd be proof positive of some of these theories because they're pushing the envelope (what better of more of a study could you want).
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If they were, you wouldn't know or realize.

alasdairm said:
i asked because, if it was the same, my first question would be why did he not have the fatal reaction to the first 2 shots?
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The more times that someone takes a poisonous injection, the more chances they have of experiencing an adverse reaction or permanent injury.

chinup said:
that is what they are doing. and you are arguing against it.
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That's definitely not what they're doing, as Dr McCullough explains on his recent JRE appearance.

He was one of the first experts to begin focusing on TREATMENT and was opposed at every step. The majority of people have been tricked into thinking that lockdowns, masks, QR check-ins are treatment which is ridiculous. Even obsessively scrubbing and hand-sanitizing isn't prevention as the virus is spread through the air via aerosols not by surface contact. McCullough stated the best form of prevention is Nasal Virucidal Therapy - diluting some betadine/iodine and spraying it up into the nose/sinuses basically kills the viral load inside the nose before it leads to infection and that simple process showed a significant improvement in groups testing positive for covid19 in a Bangladeshi study. But you won't hear the media and global experts telling people to do this, in fact what we're seeing are the authorities even restricting and banning certain medications that can successfully treat covid.
 
Yourbaker said:
When I read this I like to point out a lot of people don't need medical attention at all during our covid experience.

As a flu I would say not my worst, I've laid on the floor begging a God I didn't believe in to just kill me please, but the prick wouldn't. That was a flu. I didn't even reach halucinations during Covid. I seriously didn't think it was Covid because of all the hype.
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Look God loves You, You have Destiny, this bs Virus is not your death, it's your rebirth for a lack of saying :baptism" You are fine. you dont need a mask. up your vitamimc d , D3, and God forbid your really sick I could hook you up. if you needed it. just live your life like normal,,,,pre mask eary 80's breakfast club
 
JGrimez said:
If they were, you wouldn't know or realize.
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Says who? Mind you: good point and another good test. Knowledge of this trial is far too widespread and of interest to far too many people. And now that the BBC have their teeth into it: I doubt very much that there'll be no follow-up reporting. And this is Israel we're talking about i.e. you cannot take a piss on Israeli soil without it becoming International news or an International incident and political drama! 🇮🇱 :ROFLMAO: Point is there's too many people on the ground over there.

But fret not: I listen to the BBC World Service News (and Radio 4) just about 24/7. And the moment I hear about a bunch of people dropping dead just after receiving their FOURTH jab you will be the very first to know.

Come to think of it: this probably the best test that could have been done i.e. if the outcome is reported and there are serious complications or adverse events that actually do get reported on it'll shoot shit through more than one conspiracy theory.
 
JGrimez said:
Nonsense, there is no way that VAERS is over-reported.
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Based on what? How do you untangle the exponential increase in the number of reported cases and separate which ones are a result of people being made aware of VAERS and being encouraged to report anything from ones which might be legitimately caused by the vaccines.

That’s like trying to separate a baked cake into eggs and flour at this point.

Also, if the growth in total incidents reported is exponential the growth in the rate of over-reported cases would be expected to grow exponentially also.


JGrimez said:
A study was done through Harvard and the HHS which found that "fewer than 1%" of vaccine adverse reactions are reported to VAERS - for many reasons.
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At this point in the game NO-ONE should be dropping references to uncited papers they associate with authoritative bodies.

AND —-GOTCHA

Your possibly very sneaky use of “Harvard” here does not relate to the University. It relates to “Harvard Pilgrim Inc” which is a for-profit healthcare company.

There was not a peer-reviewed academic paper. There was a government-funded project report. Relating to vaccinations/VAERS prior to 20010. So well before VAERS became a household name.

And the goal of the report was to justify increased State surveillance of people’s medical records as held by HMO’s etc.

Electronic Support for Public Health - Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (ESP:VAERS) - Final Report | Digital Healthcare Research

digital.ahrq.gov digital.ahrq.gov

You guys need to get out of bed earlier. I killed this one while eating triple-cream brie and black-peppercorn pate and watching clips of Nina Simone.

JGrimez said:
It's also an excuse that government institutions used when they were pressed under oath by ICAN regarding vaccine safety. They were forced to admit that VAERS - which is the most comprehensive vaccine reaction database that we have - was unreliable and couldn't be used for analysis of deaths and injuries.
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Nobody on the pro-vax side says it should be used that way. It is an early warning system intended to indicate potential areas for further research. But it is not the only such system or starting point for research.
JGrimez said:
So in actuality you cannot say with any credible proof that "vaccines are safe and effective" overall since we simply do not know the true extent of vaccine injuries.
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Agreed. There is no system to capture all vaccine injuries.

Or injuries caused by any medication, device, or supplement.

If you want to simply argue “we do know the full extent of vaccine injuries and they may be greater than people realise” most reasonable people would agree. I would. But you and others are inferring that true knowledge of serious and/or fatal injuries is obscured by a factor of 100 or more. That seems less credible and very speculative.
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Now with regards to covid deaths I don't think the % of reporting is <1% but 4-5x under-reported like Dr McCullough claimed is more realistic. Which would still be extremely shocking. That means that over 100,000 people would have been killed by these vaccines already (I'm surprised but not surprised that people aren't freaking out over the officially-recorded 20,000+ vaccine deaths).
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What data proves there are 20,000 vaccine deaths? You drop that like it is self-evident fact that everyone agrees with.

But it ain’t. Sorry.
JGrimez said:
If they were, you wouldn't know or realize.


The more times that someone takes a poisonous injection, the more chances they have of experiencing an adverse reaction or permanent injury.


That's definitely not what they're doing, as Dr McCullough explains on his recent JRE appearance.

He was one of the first experts to begin focusing on TREATMENT and was opposed at every step. The majority of people have been tricked into thinking that lockdowns, masks, QR check-ins are treatment which is ridiculous. Even obsessively scrubbing and hand-sanitizing isn't prevention as the virus is spread through the air via aerosols not by surface contact. McCullough stated the best form of prevention is Nasal Virucidal Therapy - diluting some betadine/iodine and spraying it up into the nose/sinuses basically kills the viral load inside the nose before it leads to infection and that simple process showed a significant improvement in groups testing positive for covid19 in a Bangladeshi study. But you won't hear the media and global experts telling people to do this, in fact what we're seeing are the authorities even restricting and banning certain medications that can successfully treat covid.
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I agree that the hard evidence for the value of lockdowns, masks, social distancing etc etc is lacking and that it usually uses minimised “death from COVID” as the measure when the real life problem is multivariate and at a macro level it may have been appropriate to be more targetted in prevention measures and to balance mortalities of different types with other issues such as economic ones, cost, education, mental health outcomes etc etc/

But that’s not really what we are presently discussing.
 
I don't know if anyone has raised this point yet because I can't be arsed to wade through the bullshit.

But isn't it strange how the anti vaxxers are quick to point out that many of the recorded Covid deaths are people that have died WITH Covid, not BECAUSE of Covid; yet claim that every vaccinated young person that has a heart attack is due to the vaccine?

Anyone else see the fuckin irony here??
 
JGrimez said:
That's definitely not what they're doing, as Dr McCullough explains on his recent JRE appearance.

He was one of the first experts to begin focusing on TREATMENT and was opposed at every step. The majority of people have been tricked into thinking that lockdowns, masks, QR check-ins are treatment which is ridiculous. Even obsessively scrubbing and hand-sanitizing isn't prevention as the virus is spread through the air via aerosols not by surface contact. McCullough stated the best form of prevention is Nasal Virucidal Therapy - diluting some betadine/iodine and spraying it up into the nose/sinuses basically kills the viral load inside the nose before it leads to infection and that simple process showed a significant improvement in groups testing positive for covid19 in a Bangladeshi study. But you won't hear the media and global experts telling people to do this, in fact what we're seeing are the authorities even restricting and banning certain medications that can successfully treat covid.
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No offense. But you certainly put a lot of trust and faith in ONE Doctor and his opinions. And this also smacks of well it was Joe Rogan so it must be true. Joe Rogan makes a living, and tries to stay current and relevant, by interviewing controversial figures and figures who are contrarians for the sake of it. Don't believe me? Take a look at the veritable list of nutcases that he's had on his show over the past few years. The more controversial and off the wall the better (for obvious reasons).


McCullough stated the best form of prevention is Nasal Virucidal Therapy - diluting some betadine/iodine and spraying it up into the nose/sinuses basically kills the viral load inside the nose before it leads to infection and that simple process showed a significant improvement in groups testing positive for covid19 in a Bangladeshi study.
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The above makes absolutely no sense. Supposedly we're talking about prevention yet your statement goes on to mention groups testing positive. Positive as in? So in effect then those little Bangladeshis were using the good doctor's "preventative" special spray and still got COVID? :ROFLMAO:

Notwithstanding the above: so at what point in the proceedings do you start with the "preventative" spray? Do you just start spraying away when you feel it's the right time or AFTER you have signs and symptoms of COVID (in which case it ain't "preventative" let's face it). If would be roughly equivalent to my starting a course of antibiotics today just in case I am going to end up with a secondary bacterial lung infection from pneumonia or bronchitis at some point in the future no?

JGrimez said:
in fact what we're seeing are the authorities even restricting and banning certain medications that can successfully be proved to NOT treat covid.
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Fixed that for ya. And which certain medications might those be? I'm guessing Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine (oh and Clorox).

I don't even know what the point of this entire thread is i.e. it's turned into a pissing contest seems to me. So I'm out. Feels like a person is arguing with themselves. At least that's what it feels like for me anyway. Expending huge amounts of time and energy about something I really couldn't give less of a shit about (vaccines and vaccine mandates) Get 'em. Don't get 'em. No skin off of my nose either way. And to make matters worse: I don't even watch or follow most sports anyway. so what the actual fuck I'm doing here anyway is now beyond me. Lemme know when F1 drivers start dying at the wheel or have blood clots going around bends because of the G-Forces involved and just happened to get vaccinated a month or so before the race.
 
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This thread made me physically ill, I actually got nauseous reading this. The number one thing to always look for first thing when trying to critically view a debate is which side is getting emotional. Emotional almost always equates to a person who’s backed in a corner intellectually and then starts to attack in self defense. It’s very obvious which side is losing their emotional stability over this.

Then when we see how much bias can be inserted into the debate from all this emotion, it’s obvious there’s no amount of logic that will win.

I used to care about the unvaccinated and their health but now I could care less.

And while on the anecdotes, I know multiple people who’ve died from Covid. Not a single person who’s had any complications with the vaccines. I’ve got multiple people close to me in healthcare, they see first hand what’s going on and every person coming in sick is unvaccinated. Every person with long Covid symptoms is unvaccinated. If the vaccines were so dangerous I’m positive I’d know someone with issues.

Foreign influences have done an excellent job finishing off what our horrible US public schools started. It’s almost too easy in this country. Just keep believing those Facebook memes and everything will be ok.

-GC
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
I don't know if anyone has raised this point yet because I can't be arsed to wade through the bullshit.

But isn't it strange how the anti vaxxers are quick to point out that many of the recorded Covid deaths are people that have died WITH Covid, not BECAUSE of Covid; yet claim that every vaccinated young person that has a heart attack is due to the vaccine?

Anyone else see the fuckin irony here??
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I think a younger and much handsomer guy made that exact point earlier. :limp:
 
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