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Mental Health Coming Off Invega Sustenna (Paliperidone) v4

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Weļl į would like to share my story, which is maybe not 100 percent success story, but still success. I am diagnozed f20.0, so paranoid schizophrenia. I myself am not sure do i really have it, but i surely had three psychotic breakdowns, in 2006,2017 and 2019. Well, i never heard voices, but psychotic breakdowns were hell, but i will not go Into details, those who know they know.

So after last episode i went to hospital, was diagnozed f20, before it was f23, and was put first on risperidon, then on xeplion. Actually reaction to risperidon was hell, į had terrible akathisia, could not sit or lie, just walk, later į could not even walk, but since į was not dying they decided i am good for xeplion.

First the dose was 75mg, and first months it felt like not too bad, but slowly i noticed myself getting dumb, and from that even i fought a lot į slowly went Into depression.

Then they gave me sertraline, but it changed nothing, į slowly started to have high anxiety, and troubled sleeping, so i went to hospital again and doctors said that it is negative symptoms of schizophrenia, and raised the dose to 150mg.

After leaving hospital i felt a bit better, į was given other drugs also, lorazepam was one of them, but i think it was just psychological, of course it is a bit better, since you leave that boring hospital.

I managed alone to record some music, which you can listen here: ishmalda.bancamp.com

But anyway depression lingered on and was getting worse day by day. Well you know it. I was already reading this thread, and puting all fault on xeplion, also i know from my own experience, cause after first two breakdowns į was given olanzapine, which also made me zombie and then depressed, but after three months of quiting, everything went fine.

It was not easy to persuade the doctors and family and friends that i want to quit xeplion, but i managed to do that, so last october i quit, first lowering the dose to 100mg, then 75mg, october was last injection.

First nothing changed and nothing changed for six months, after six seven months, it got worse i started have again troubled sleeping, anxiety, strong suicidal thougts, i was already bedridden, so my friends got worried and suggested to visit doctors again.

I was very desperate already, so i agreed. So they gave me again two Antidepresants mirtazapine and sertraline, and quetiapine, but low doses, after they added aripriprazole also low dose, 10mg.

And suddenly after 8 months of quiting xeplion, i started to feel well, everything changed in more or less two days.

Of course the question stays was this aripriprazole or not. But anyway the thing still troubles me that į did not get my fantasy back, i cannot create music, and mostly still am silent, but silence is power it is not a big deal. Important thing depression is over, i have again motivation, and don't think everything is shit..
 
Suffering at 3.3 months off is not even close to 1 month off, it was pure unbearable hell. Depression is on 10% now. Mood is neutral. I can also fall asleep normaly now and sleep ~8h-9h.
 
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Tim Tusek said:
Suffering at 3.3 months off is not even close to 1 month off, it was pure unbearable hell. Depression is on 10% now. Mood is neutral. I can also fall asleep normaly now and sleep ~8h-9h.
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sleep is the one thing i cannot seem to fix.. hopefully this wil improve at month 3 as well
 
abzora said:
Weļl į would like to share my story, which is maybe not 100 percent success story, but still success. I am diagnozed f20.0, so paranoid schizophrenia. I myself am not sure do i really have it, but i surely had three psychotic breakdowns, in 2006,2017 and 2019. Well, i never heard voices, but psychotic breakdowns were hell, but i will not go Into details, those who know they know.

So after last episode i went to hospital, was diagnozed f20, before it was f23, and was put first on risperidon, then on xeplion. Actually reaction to risperidon was hell, į had terrible akathisia, could not sit or lie, just walk, later į could not even walk, but since į was not dying they decided i am good for xeplion.

First the dose was 75mg, and first months it felt like not too bad, but slowly i noticed myself getting dumb, and from that even i fought a lot į slowly went Into depression.

Then they gave me sertraline, but it changed nothing, į slowly started to have high anxiety, and troubled sleeping, so i went to hospital again and doctors said that it is negative symptoms of schizophrenia, and raised the dose to 150mg.

After leaving hospital i felt a bit better, į was given other drugs also, lorazepam was one of them, but i think it was just psychological, of course it is a bit better, since you leave that boring hospital.

I managed alone to record some music, which you can listen here: ishmalda.bancamp.com

But anyway depression lingered on and was getting worse day by day. Well you know it. I was already reading this thread, and puting all fault on xeplion, also i know from my own experience, cause after first two breakdowns į was given olanzapine, which also made me zombie and then depressed, but after three months of quiting, everything went fine.

It was not easy to persuade the doctors and family and friends that i want to quit xeplion, but i managed to do that, so last october i quit, first lowering the dose to 100mg, then 75mg, october was last injection.

First nothing changed and nothing changed for six months, after six seven months, it got worse i started have again troubled sleeping, anxiety, strong suicidal thougts, i was already bedridden, so my friends got worried and suggested to visit doctors again.

I was very desperate already, so i agreed. So they gave me again two Antidepresants mirtazapine and sertraline, and quetiapine, but low doses, after they added aripriprazole also low dose, 10mg.

And suddenly after 8 months of quiting xeplion, i started to feel well, everything changed in more or less two days.

Of course the question stays was this aripriprazole or not. But anyway the thing still troubles me that į did not get my fantasy back, i cannot create music, and mostly still am silent, but silence is power it is not a big deal. Important thing depression is over, i have again motivation, and don't think everything is shit..
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i've read a few people claiming that sertraline helpd them recover it's one of the few SSRI that target dopamine as well. If you have the option its better not to take any Anti-psychotic they only make you brain dead and retarded. taking a bunch of anti-depressants doesn't mean your healed.

how many injections you took ?
 
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i've read a few people claiming that sertraline helpd them recover it's one of the few SSRI that target dopamine as well. If you have the option its better not to take any Anti-psychotic they only make you brain dead and retarded. taking a bunch of anti-depressants doesn't mean your healed.

how many injections you took ?
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I took maybe 17 injections

I never claimed that antidepresants helped me, and sertraline į quit already.

Actually i plan to quit all medication, but slowly and later.

Weļl, healed or no, i know a bit better, cause i am not bedridden anymore, have some plans, dreams and motivation, that's already a big step, to compare to how į was on xeplion and eight months after stopping it.

For sure AP's fucks your brain, that's what they are meant for. But during my psychotic break i almost killed my friend hallucinating that he is a demon, and that is not funny.

So sometimes you have to weigh both sides
 
abzora said:
I took maybe 17 injections

I never claimed that antidepresants helped me, and sertraline į quit already.

Actually i plan to quit all medication, but slowly and later.

Weļl, healed or no, i know a bit better, cause i am not bedridden anymore, have some plans, dreams and motivation, that's already a big step, to compare to how į was on xeplion and eight months after stopping it.

For sure AP's fucks your brain, that's what they are meant for. But during my psychotic break i almost killed my friend hallucinating that he is a demon, and that is not funny.

So sometimes you have to weigh both sides
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Hi and welcome! Thank you so much for sharing your experience with us <3
 
internal dialogue completely dissappeared mind is blank who else is experiencing this ?
 
Bigsmoke420 said:
I have some good news, I smoked weed today and i got stupid high, all the positives came back felt euphoric and happy and music sounded great and when I smoked the high last about 2 hours and compared when I was off invega for about 5 months it only lasted like 25 minutes. Also slept amazing
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Wow impressive its euphoria and intense happy feeling I also want to experience. How many invega depo shots have you had?
 
apsucks said:
the paliperidon is causing it now i got switched from pali to abilify which also causes additional insomnia shit is so deep idk what to do

by the way how many injections you got ?
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I've had monthly injections for 21 months and one 3-monthly injection. Then took pills for 12 months.

I've found a scientifically based podcast on how to optimize sleep btw, maybe you can learn something from it:


I have summarized the main takeaways if you don't have the concentration to watch an hour long video:

Sunlight exposure seems to be the main regulator of wakefulness. It is important to go outside first thing in the morning for about 2-10min to have sunlight shine in your eyes. To a lesser extent eating and exercising early during the day can solidify your circadian rhythm. It is also important, although not as important, to watch the sunset for 2-10min. Besides these factors you should avoid artificial light between 11PM and 4AM. It is advised not even to look at dimmed lights. Light exposure during this time reduces dopamine and can lead to depression, anxiety, learning problems, and an inability to focus. If you really want to look at a screen get a blue light filter like f.lux and dim the light. If you want artificial light from lamps place them low in your physical environment because the cells which register the light are located at the top of your eyeballs. Candlelight also doesn’t trigger these cells. In addition you might want to exclusively drink caffeine in the morning. Meditation, hypnosis and yoga nidra might also train your nervous system to go into a relaxed state (non sleep deep rest). After you have managed your light exposure there are a couple of supplements you could try. Andrew Huberman himself takes magnesium threonate (300-400mg), theanine (100-200mg) 30-60 minutes before sleep. You could also try 50mg of apegenin before sleep. Before taking any of these supplements consult with a healthcare professional because they can have serious side effects.
 
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Mode_Legitimate said:
Wow impressive its euphoria and intense happy feeling I also want to experience. How many invega depo shots have you had?
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2 shots and it wasn't intense. Only time I ever had a intense euphoria was the first time I ever smoked. I don't really ever get euphoria from weed even before the invega injections
 
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