BPC-157 treatments

COIL

COIL

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Hey yall, I dont want to dox myself but there's a center around my way that does injections of the BPC-157 peptide. I was born with knee injuries but over the last year and five months ive been starting to lose mobility. have no healthcare.

For an affordable sum they can inject the peptide into my knees and provide me a months supply of the peptide to take orally. I think I am going to go ahead with this. BPC does look promising

Over the last month or so Ive been self medicating using basically anything that effects GABAa, or a sub if one happens to cross my path, but I know for a fact that I'm also very under weight. there are questions I want to ask the center but am worried they'll want me to detox off of everything (13 year user of kratom, currently taking 1g morning/mid day/and at night) and I have some bromazolam in my system, and probably will continue to until I'm able to make my knees stop feeling like they're passing kidney stones.

There's more I could say here, but I guess when those questions occur I could edit them into this post, assuming it doesnt get a response. Also, if I posted this in the wrong forum, please forgive me. It's my second post. EDIT: also, I searched the forum for posts about bpc-157 so if there is a thread up about it already it didnt show up in the search function
 
Hi COIL and welcome to Bluelight! :)
I have never heard of this peptide treatment but I am very intrigued. Have you got any more info on the way that it works? I'd also love to hear how it goes, if you get it done. Does it work straight away, like, say, cortisone injections do?
 
heya- i've never heard of that peptide, do remember a peptide is just a short segment of a protein. i am not a medical doctor but i do have my doubts as to whether this would do anything taken orally. injection maybe if it was very well targeted.

if you are starting to lose mobility please please look into restoring your weight to a healthy level. you need to make sure you are getting adequate protein and good fats. look into glucosamine supplementation too. there is not a magic bullet, but gaining weight will help. i promise, i was very underweight for a long time and went through periods where i could barely walk. in my case there was an operation they could do but they refused until i'd gained weight. and they were right to, cos the problem went away once i gained weight. i know your case is different, but undereating and being underweight is not helping.
 
I think I should drop a few studies in here to familiarize ppl with the peptide. its made from bovine gastric juices! Also, there are a lot of very good anedotal reports on the peptide as well. will edit the information into this post




  • Stable gastric pentadecapeptide BPC 157 is an antiulcer peptidergic agent, safe in inflammatory bowel disease clinical trials and wound healing, stable in human gastric juice and has no reported toxicity. Notably, it has a prominent effect on alcohol lesions (i.e., acute, chronic) and NSAIDs-lesions (interestingly, BPC 157 both prevents and reverses arthritis) and acts as a free radical scavenger and exhibits neuroprotective properties.
  • (Sikiric, P., et al., Stable Gastric Pentadecapeptide BPC 157: Novel Therapy in Gastrointestinal Tract. CPD, 2011. 17(16): p. 1612-1632.)
  • Chang CH , et al. (n.d.). The promoting effect of pentadecapeptide BPC 157 on tendon healing involves tendon outgrowth, cell survival, and cell migration. – PubMed – NCBI. National Center for Biotechnology Information. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21030672

  • Chang CH , et al. (n.d.). Pentadecapeptide BPC 157 enhances the growth hormone receptor expression in tendon fibroblasts. – PubMed – NCBI. National Center for Biotechnology Information. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25415472

  • GwyerD , et al. (n.d.). Gastric pentadecapeptide body protection compound BPC 157 and its role in accelerating musculoskeletal soft tissue healing. – PubMed – NCBI. National Center for Biotechnology Information. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30915550

  • PevecD , et al. (n.d.). Impact of pentadecapeptide BPC 157 on muscle healing impaired by systemic corticosteroid application. – PubMed – NCBI. National Center for Biotechnology Information. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20190676
 
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yes you probably should..... but i'll be super surprised if any of the studies say anything about it being effective taken orally, because it would get broken down into its constituent amino acids in your stomach.
 
chinup said:
yes you probably should..... but i'll be super surprised if any of the studies say anything about it being effective taken orally, because it would get broken down into its constituent amino acids in your stomach.
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from my understanding, BPC-157 works orally, but on things like leaky gut and IBS. I was also diagnosed with IBS as a teenager but my kratom dose (which has occasionally gone way too high) seems to slow down my system enough to where... I dont feel like going too much into the details of what my IBS was like before discovering kratom. It was painful. Luckily, I take one morning dose, one mid day, and one at night. 3g a day. Better than 50 a day.

Regardless, Ive also seen it in a nasal spray, tablets, powder, etc. But the issue (for me) with buying it online is that it degrades quickly and most online vendors are selling bunk, or at least thats my opinion. Secondly, I'm not a nurse practitioner and dont have the necessary skills to inject a peptide into my knees. I'll pay the extra couple hundos to have the product be safe and top quality
 
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n3ophy7e said:
Hi COIL and welcome to Bluelight! :)
I have never heard of this peptide treatment but I am very intrigued. Have you got any more info on the way that it works? I'd also love to hear how it goes, if you get it done. Does it work straight away, like, say, cortisone injections do?
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I have heard that the injections are fairly fast at effecting healing, from people who have had them done
 
chinup said:
heya- i've never heard of that peptide, do remember a peptide is just a short segment of a protein. i am not a medical doctor but i do have my doubts as to whether this would do anything taken orally. injection maybe if it was very well targeted.

if you are starting to lose mobility please please look into restoring your weight to a healthy level. you need to make sure you are getting adequate protein and good fats. look into glucosamine supplementation too. there is not a magic bullet, but gaining weight will help. i promise, i was very underweight for a long time and went through periods where i could barely walk. in my case there was an operation they could do but they refused until i'd gained weight. and they were right to, cos the problem went away once i gained weight. i know your case is different, but undereating and being underweight is not helping.
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So, weight gain has always been a problem for me. I'm just under 6 feet tall but my highest weight has been 147. there are a LOT of reasons for this, c-ptsd, ibs, drug use, etc. I am using this time period where im self medicating with bromazolam to get the benzo munchies. D9 and D8 dont give me munchies, just anxiety, but benzos do. Unfortunately I dropped back down to 119, but made it back to 127lbs recently.
 
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From what I recall BPC-157 (along with many other peptides) seems to cause some neurological/psychiatric side in certain individuals, something to do with a serotonergic mechanism. If you can actually feel the effects of a single gram of kratom I would wager that you're also at a higher risk of this sort of hypersensitivity reaction. I'd exercise some caution here
 
negrogesic said:
From what I recall BPC-157 (along with many other peptides) seems to cause some neurological/psychiatric side in certain individuals, something to do with a serotonergic mechanism. If you can actually feel the effects of a single gram of kratom I would wager that you're also at a higher risk of this sort of hypersensitivity reaction. I'd exercise some caution here
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So, I remain taking the kratom just because I dont like the sniffles and its just sorta always been there. I did drop down my dose 75% from when I took 16g a day (didnt feel that but for maybe 20 minutes after every dose and the effects were never pain killing or euphoric) and I definitely cant feel the dose I'm currently on.
Starting it at 17 (i'm now 31) I worry about PAWS and whatnot, and if i stop taking it I'm not so sure if my IBS will come back or not

EDIT: I will look more into this but I think I'm willing to take the risk. My brain is already like a pile of cigarette ashes. If I can get my knees back but they have to put my brain in a jar, so be it
 
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They have pretty significant experience with peptides over in the "Sports and Image Enhacing Drugs" subforum here.

Maybe @chinup @n3ophy7e or @VerbalTruist could move it there if they see fit, it likely would get better answers over there
 
negrogesic said:
They have pretty significant experience with peptides over in the "Sports and Image Enhacing Drugs" subforum here.

Maybe @chinup @n3ophy7e or @VerbalTruist could move it there if they see fit, it likely would get better answers over there
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very much appreciated. my body is decayed and I'm hitting a turning point. I gotta get fit before it's too late
 
Bpc was used by a friend of mine with IBS and his symptoms basically disappeared (taken orally). This could benefit your weight gain journey as it'll help with the digestion if food and the proper absorption of its nutrients.
I've read good reviews and heard some good anecdotes of people having it injected into their shoulders after injury.
When used in combination with tb-500 the users seem to get the most benefit. Tb-500 can be administered by you on your own as it has a systemic effect and does not need localized application.
Growth hormone releasing peptides such as ghrp6 and mk677 can be used short term to stimulate appetite as well. Once a day usage of ghrp6 to minimize building a tolerance to the appetite stimulating effect may be something to look into. Just be aware, you'll likely want to devour every ounce of food you have after injection lol
 
thank you so much for all of this info. there's a few barriers (not money, unfortunately) that are making it hard to get over to the center. I don't want to walk around my apartment's maze to weigh myself, but I was 127 when I checked a few days ago and definitely lost some more. Should I just go in there and be honest about using benzodiazipines to self-medicate or do you think they would turn me down? Perhaps I could have someone else call on a different number to ask similar questions.

posts like yours are always why I appreciated bluelight, thanks for the new bits of info. they also do work with those peptides
 
I wouldn't be too concerned about it. I know for other types of clinics like trt/hrt they'll work with you and would basically want a list of meds just to check for contraindications. You could also not divulge using them as "why" isn't really important, but knowing that you're taking them can be. Though personally I don't see anything of concern but maybe GF does, if there isn't any contraindications then I wouldn't bring it up
 
Think I'm gonna take two weeks to try and gain some weight before I head up there. I'm 116 right now, so that is not so good.
 
Serotonin101 said:
Bpc was used by a friend of mine with IBS and his symptoms basically disappeared (taken orally). This could benefit your weight gain journey as it'll help with the digestion if food and the proper absorption of its nutrients.
I've read good reviews and heard some good anecdotes of people having it injected into their shoulders after injury.
When used in combination with tb-500 the users seem to get the most benefit. Tb-500 can be administered by you on your own as it has a systemic effect and does not need localized application.
Growth hormone releasing peptides such as ghrp6 and mk677 can be used short term to stimulate appetite as well. Once a day usage of ghrp6 to minimize building a tolerance to the appetite stimulating effect may be something to look into. Just be aware, you'll likely want to devour every ounce of food you have after injection lol
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Thank you for this breakdown. I'm going to try to research this as much as I can. it's $350 for the bpc knee injection plus a month of tablets. according to them, younger/middle aged people only need a months worth of treatment. They do mk667 but if that can be done personally i may want to try it out before heading into the center for BPC injections. BL rules, cant believe ive mostly lurked
 
COIL said:
Thank you for this breakdown. I'm going to try to research this as much as I can. it's $350 for the bpc knee injection plus a month of tablets. according to them, younger/middle aged people only need a months worth of treatment. They do mk667 but if that can be done personally i may want to try it out before heading into the center for BPC injections. BL rules, cant believe ive mostly lurked
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Yeah mk677 can be gotten on your own as it's still marketed in the supplement industry in grey market territory. I believe you'll find it called ibutamoren. Just make sure to read reviews on the sources. You can find it in raw powder, dissolved in a liquid, or in capsules generally with raws being the cheapest but you gotta weigh it out yourself.
 
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