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Election 2020 The Final Countdown v. Nov. 3rd

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...such a moronic malcontent.

I wonder how much money he and his family will use from the PAC created to "investigate" voting fraud.
 
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trump throws pence under the bus on his way out the door...

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Trump seems to think that the founding fathers were so fucking stupid that they set up a system with allllll this shit about how to do elections and freedom and the rule of law.

Only to also say that the vice president has absolute authority to decide who wins in the end.

It's insane.

Truth is trump just can't stand the idea of anyone going against him even if it's their civic, legal and moral duty to do so.

He makes a complete mockery of the presidency, our laws, our customs, the entire fucking country.

And I am sooooo glad he won't get another 4 years. It's a national humiliation that he got that much.
 

"Money to support Trump court fight could flow to president​

By BRIAN SLODYSKO November 11, 2020


WASHINGTON (AP) — As President Donald Trump’s chances of reelection dwindled last week, his campaign began blasting out a nonstop stream of emails and text messages that led to a website raising money for an “election defense fund” to contest the outcome.

Like many hallmarks of the Trump presidency, the messages contained all-caps lettering and blatant mistruths about voter fraud during the Nov. 3 election. They also mislead supporters about where the money would go.

Trump has promised to contest President-elect Joe Biden’s win in court. But the fine print indicates much of the money donated to support that effort since Election Day has instead paid down campaign debt, replenished the Republican National Committee and, more recently, helped get Save America, a new political action committee Trump founded, off the ground.

The unusual way the Trump campaign is divvying up the contributions has drawn scrutiny from election watchdogs, who say Trump and his family are poised to financially benefit from the arrangement.

“This is a slush fund. That’s the bottom line,” said Paul S. Ryan, a longtime campaign finance attorney with the good government group Common Cause. “Trump may just continue to string out this meritless litigation in order to fleece his own supporters of their money and use it in the coming years to pad his own lifestyle while teasing a 2024 candidacy.”

The Democratic National Committee and Biden’s campaign are also raising money for a legal fight over the outcome of the election. Most of the money is for the DNC’s legal account, though some of it will be routed to the party’s general fund, which doesn’t face the same spending restrictions. It could then be used to pay for ads, for example, if Republicans try to get ballots tossed out with minor — and correctible — errors, according to a DNC official.

Trump’s approach is far different.

The first few days after the election, money that was purportedly for the legal fight primarily went to Trump’s campaign for debt payment, as well as the RNC, as first reported by The Wall Street Journal. But on Monday, Trump launched Save America, his new PAC, which is now poised to get the largest share in many cases.

Save America is a type of campaign committee that is often referred to as a “leadership PAC,” which has higher contribution limits — $5,000 per year — and faces fewer restrictions on how the money is spent. Unlike candidate campaign accounts, leadership PACs can also be tapped to pay for personal expenses.

A detailed breakdown of how contributions are split up shows that 60% of any donation now goes to Save America PAC. The next 40% goes to an RNC account. It’s only once a donor reaches the maximum contribution limit for each group — $5,000 for Trump’s PAC and $35,000 for the RNC — that money will spill into legal accounts for Trump and the RNC, according to campaign finance attorneys who have reviewed the details of the arrangement.

In a statement, Trump campaign communications director Tim Murtaugh did not address questions about how the incoming donations are split up.
“The President always planned to do this, win or lose, so he can support candidates and issues he cares about, such as combating voter fraud,” Murtaugh said.

A spokesperson for the RNC did not respond to a request for comment.

Biden spokesperson Andrew Bates said Trump’s fundraising effort was exploitative but not surprising.

“Given the rate at which these lawsuits are being thrown out of court one after another, it’s fitting to learn that they were never engineered to succeed in the first place and are instead the dismal basis for a dog and pony show,” Bates said.

Leadership PACs have long been abused. While they are intended to be used for raising money that can later be donated to other candidates, they can legally be used to pay for lavish — and questionable — expenses.

“They could pay (Trump) children consulting fees. They could pay the children’s significant others consulting fees. They could buy Don Jr.’s book, which the campaign can’t do,” said Adav Noti, a former Federal Election Commission attorney who now works for the nonpartisan Campaign Legal Center. “They could do anything with it. There’s no personal use restriction.”

(The RNC, not the Trump campaign, did spend almost $100,000 buying copies of Donald Trump Jr.’s book, “Triggered,” last year.)

Trump has refused to acknowledge Biden’s victory and has argued without proof that there was widespread voter fraud that has benefited Biden. He has also vowed to fight the results in court. His fundraising messages sought to capitalize on that message.

“THE DEMOCRATS WANT TO STEAL THIS ELECTION! There will be FRAUD like you’ve never seen, plain and simple!” Trump’s fundraising homepage reads. “We Need YOUR HELP to ensure we have the resources to protect the results and keep fighting even after Election Day. Don’t wait, step up NOW to DEFEND the integrity of our Election!”

There is no evidence of widespread fraud in the 2020 election. In fact, election officials from both political parties have stated publicly that the election went well, and international observers confirmed there were no serious irregularities.

The issues Trump’s campaign and its allies have pointed to are typical in every election: problems with signatures, secrecy envelopes and postal marks on mail-in ballots, as well as the potential for a small number of ballots miscast or lost. With Biden leading Trump by wide margins in key battleground states, none of those issues would have any impact on the outcome of the election.
Legal challenges filed by the Trump campaign have complained that their poll watchers were unable to scrutinize the voting process. Many of those challenges have been tossed out by judges, some within hours of their filing; and again, none of the complaints show any evidence that the outcome of the election was affected."


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Money to support Trump court fight could flow to president

WASHINGTON (AP) — As President Donald Trump’s chances of reelection dwindled last week, his campaign began blasting out a nonstop stream of emails and text messages that led to a website raising money for an “election defense fund” to contest the outcome.
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And this is the guy they think was gonna drain the swamp.

The disconnect between the beliefs of trump voters and reality is the kind you could probably spend an entire career studying the psychology of. How they can retain beliefs that so repeatedly smash head first into an uncooperative reality.
 
Socialism for corporations and other big business - GOOD

Power at any cost ( for OUR side ) - GOOD

Greed - GOOD

Anyone or thing in the way - BAD


I think that sums up the general feeling I get from the current Republican Party. I mean, personalities like Limbaugh, Hannity, and Carlson have made great money while fighting a war on truth, decency, and ( ultimately ) the general population.
 
NEVER FORGET:

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Hope all you Republicans remembered to protest by not voting!

Remember, it's all rigged, you don't want any part of a rigged election right? So don't vote!
 
Trump has been peddling this "fraud" shtick since his battle with Ted Cruz 5 ish years ago, iirc

Is anyone still blaiming CHINA for releasing Covid-19 to defeat President Trump?

Has anyone been following the Proud Boys saga these past couple of weeks? ...pretty dull stuff, overall.

There was an interesting gathering in SALEM, Oregon recently. Apparently the protesters there were pretty surprised they were pepper sprayed by the police.
 
...apologies for the random tangents. Mods feel free to move to the appropriate topic thread.
 
It seems likely we may come to see that trump has been worse for the republican party than any Democrat opponent could ever have been. He's destroyed it from within.

Warped the party into a position where it can't stop supporting a man and beliefs that bring it to electoral ruin.

Imagine what will happen if trump comes to blame the republican party for his loss as well, and decides to split off and form his own party.

I suspect such a course of action could destroy the republican party for potentially decades. Perhaps even permanently. In a worst case scenario the American right may need to permanently restructure.
 
Has trump ever won any election without suggesting that if he loses it was stolen?

Has he ever lost any election without claiming it was stolen?

In trumps warped narcissistic mind, he can't accept ever losing. It's truly pathetic. And it's astounding that anyone would believe someone yelling such obviously self interested lies.
 
So if I got this all right,

Trump lost the popular vote twice.
Got impeached.
Helped facilitate the rise of AOC, the Squad, and a new generation of progressives.
Lost in an electoral landslide in 2020.
Turned dark red Georgia and Arizona blue.
Sent a black man and a 33 year old Jew to the Senate.
Lost control of Congress.
And the first woman, the first black person, and the first Asian VP to the White House.
Made Bernie chairman of the budget committee.

maybe he did make America great again?
 
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