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Again, take as you will, but this resonates with everything I have accepted over decades of dechiphering, observation from multiple sources, as essentially being the absulute crux of the current matter at hand.

Hence the sudden UK law enforcement to make all such discussion illegal on all official, mainstream social media platforms.

It's essentialy the long envisiaged blueprint and current ploy at hand. In much more specific, detailed outlay than the far more laiback Simon Parkes broadcasts.

 
what? link please?

alasdair
I'm sorry I can't really think exactly where or how to fish out an official, creditable link for you on that in my current condition.

I just know it to be a true and official fact, recently passed into law here in the UK.

It is very well known across the social media platforms.
 
Uhh, generally all laws are available online. It's not hard to prove something is law.
I didn't say it was hard. But I just don't feel compelled to dig out and show you all such proof. I was only stating a fact. Anybody is free to do their own digging if they wish.

The video I posted above, does actually refer to many facts and details, even if you feel in your own opinion, that there is a lot of bath water in with the baby.
 
it's impossible to have a meaningful discussion if you claim what you are posting is a fact but are unable or unwilling to substantiate it with a simple link.

i did a search and can't find anything to suggest that this is a fact.

so the only conclusion i can come to reasonably, for now, is that your claim is false.

alasdair
 
it's impossible to have a meaningful discussion if you claim what you are posting is a fact but are unable or unwilling to substantiate it with a simple link.

i did a search and can't find anything to suggest that this is a fact.

so the only conclusion i can come to reasonably, for now, is that your claim is false.

alasdair
Conclude as you will. All UK based broadcasters are now strictly adhering to this law/guideline currently, on mainstream channels. Those who do not, are immediately removed.

My concern is not convincing you. Clear as day, we can debate these matters until the cows come home and the fat lady sings. I'm not good at doing homework and fishing out links, especially when so sick.

And especially moreso when it is clearly a lost cause.
 
I searched too and also came up nothing.

Conclude as you will. All UK based broadcasters are now strictly adhering to this law/guideline currently, on mainstream channels. Those who do not, are immediately removed.

My concern is not convincing you. Clear as day, we can debate these matters until the cows come home and the fat lady sings. I'm not good at doing homework and fishing out links, especially when so sick.

And especially moreso when it is clearly a lost cause.

If you're not good at finding evidence then how do you actually find the good evidence to convince yourself to start with?

Unless no good evidence was behind you becoming convinced to start with that is...

For now I shall continue with my belief that not everything I read on bluelight is true. :D
 
this law/guideline
is it a law or is it a guideline? you said such discussion was illegal which would make it a law, wouldn't it?
I'm not good at doing homework and fishing out links, especially when so sick.
i am sorry you're sick and i hope, whatever ails you, that you have access to the treatment and support you need to get through it. if i remember correctly, you are in the u.k.? if so, thanks goodness you live in a country with socialised medicine.

that said, you seem well enough to make all these claims in the first place so perhaps you'd forgive me for being a little cynical of your inability to support them with a post or two of proof?
And especially moreso when it is clearly a lost cause.
which lost cause? i'm 100% open to be persuaded by facts. give me a link to the law to which you are referring and your argument is won. that simple.

i can only speak for myself but if and when i am challenged to substantiate a claim i've made here, i have to respect that. it's an invite, from somebody who likely doesn't believe me, to demonstrate the veracity of my claim. it's hard to imagine* why anybody wouldn't jump at that chance...

alasdair

* yes, i know :)
 
It is very well known across the social media platforms.

This perfectly encapsulates the profoundly negative impact social media is having on our world. Disinformation is incredibly easily disseminated through social media, and then because social media sites create an echo chamber where they show you stuff that you've shown you're already interested in, it makes the disinformation appear to be well-known to everyone and something everyone believes, which reinforces that it is a self-evident truth, when in fact to someone else, their own social media experience tells them the exact opposite.

This is why, right now, more than ever before, it is crucial that everyone does their own fact checking. otherwise you are choosing to believe things based on what you want to believe. Just understand how easy it is to create false information on social media that superficially appears real, and disseminate it to networks of people hungering to believe "information".

A great example that you will agree is false is the meme that circulated with a photo of Trump and a quote supposedly from him in the 90s or whatever, saying that if he ever ran for president, he would choose Republican because the people are easier to fool (paraphrased). A whole ton of people believed it, on my facebook feed, it was being reposted by all my friends and family. In conversations, it was being stated as fact. Someone turned me on to the fact that it was just manufactured meme, the quote is entirely made up, he never said that. That instance was actually pretty pivotal for me in getting me off of social media (realizing how toxic it is in the spread of disinformation), and in realizing how the side I more associate with is spreading disinformation just like the other side. You really and truly can't believe anything you hear in the media or the Internet, especially from Youtube and social media influencers, without doing your own fact checking. if you refuse to fact check, then you are probably being led around by a leash and being made to swallow someone's agenda.
 
is it a law or is it a guideline? you said such discussion was illegal which would make it a law, wouldn't it?

i am sorry you're sick and i hope, whatever ails you, that you have access to the treatment and support you need to get through it. if i remember correctly, you are in the u.k.? if so, thanks goodness you live in a country with socialised medicine.

that said, you seem well enough to make all these claims in the first place so perhaps you'd forgive me for being a little cynical of your inability to support them with a post or two of proof?

which lost cause? i'm 100% open to be persuaded by facts. give me a link to the law to which you are referring and your argument is won. that simple.

i can only speak for myself but if and when i am challenged to substantiate a claim i've made here, i have to respect that. it's an invite, from somebody who likely doesn't believe me, to demonstrate the veracity of my claim. it's hard to imagine* why anybody wouldn't jump at that chance...

alasdair

* yes, i know :)
I will try and get back to you on that. I'm not saying your points arr not valid and fair, and I said all along you can all justifiably tear me to pieces.

I've never been literate at source and fact based evidence finding. And I am partly autistic.

This law I speak of, I have not seen in writing as such, but have heard it reiterated emphatically and clearly by many different individuals who are very reluctantly,,but forcibly complying with this regulation.

I will try to find something more substantial as soon as my energy is up and brain function is better again. I did get remarkably sick just lately, and I'm not exaggerating when I say I am literally fighting to stay alive currently one day at a time.

I don't seek sympathy, or excusal. Just deadly honest.

You make fair points and I respect your politeness and open directness, however much we disagree on this or that.

My main priority right now is survival and simply getting through this vital course of medicine I was deprived of in June and am just hoping will save me in time.

I realise I am a self made linchpin of course with my passionately stated, bold outlandish claims unbacked by real evidence.

But I will see what I can find. I just feel like certain things are mute this particular eve as well, with my/our focus largely elsewhere.

One thing, I honestly mean no disrespect or insult to any other member here.
 
This perfectly encapsulates the profoundly negative impact social media is having on our world. Disinformation is incredibly easily disseminated through social media, and then because social media sites create an echo chamber where they show you stuff that you've shown you're already interested in, it makes the disinformation appear to be well-known to everyone and something everyone believes, which reinforces that it is a self-evident truth, when in fact to someone else, their own social media experience tells them the exact opposite.

This is why, right now, more than ever before, it is crucial that everyone does their own fact checking. otherwise you are choosing to believe things based on what you want to believe. Just understand how easy it is to create false information on social media that superficially appears real, and disseminate it to networks of people hungering to believe "information".

A great example that you will agree is false is the meme that circulated with a photo of Trump and a quote supposedly from him in the 90s or whatever, saying that if he ever ran for president, he would choose Republican because the people are easier to fool (paraphrased). A whole ton of people believed it, on my facebook feed, it was being reposted by all my friends and family. In conversations, it was being stated as fact. Someone turned me on to the fact that it was just manufactured meme, the quote is entirely made up, he never said that. That instance was actually pretty pivotal for me in getting me off of social media (realizing how toxic it is in the spread of disinformation), and in realizing how the side I more associate with is spreading disinformation just like the other side. You really and truly can't believe anything you hear in the media or the Internet, especially from Youtube and social media influencers, without doing your own fact checking. if you refuse to fact check, then you are probably being led around by a leash and being made to swallow someone's agenda.
Exactly! None of us truly know. I don't disagree with that. I wish we did,,and hope to see a world where the real ultimate truth, whatever that may be,,is properly ironed out from the cracks and revealed to the world at large.
 
that said, you seem well enough to make all these claims in the first place so perhaps you'd forgive me for being a little cynical of your inability to support them with a post or two of proof?
Of course this occurred to me as an understandable perception. Maybe there is a phenomenon whereby very sick and fatigued people can still communicate well and strongly, while being less adept and resourceful in other capacities.

My posting honestly does not reflect the severity of my current condition.

I do thank you for your empathy though.

And also, please excuse my use of the lost cause term because I wasn't really meaning to direct that at yourself, or anybody personally, and I do not see you that way at all actually. The lost cause is more in relation to my own lack of confidence at locating and sharing more solid evidence- or rather, simply evidence.
 
@Xorkoth thanks man. Just a simple like, not to inflate my (inescapable egoe IMO until this mortality reaches it's end and hopefully next and better stage, 'cos I don't wanna be no frog getting squished, or a battered trout tossed back into the river,,or on a plate lol)...is a little ray of light to me currently. Have been in such a dark place for a while, yet give me a little credit I hope for still making myself such an open and indifensible target.

Still any little positive input can be a bright spark of motivation at such times.

I genuinely hope to live. I have a course of medicine which will, by all past experiences and logic, improve my bodily status by a good 80% in 29 days.

But my lifeforce has gotten so drained, almost gone entirely, and this is essentially, ulitimately what kills us, regardless of how it occurs.

Sorry man, not wanting to sound morbid. I appreciate your membership and always positive and interesting inputs here.

Just on the new UK legislation I will try to find some backing ecidence for- this Simon Parkes guy, however looney he is taken, was an official UK MP and City councillor, before a change in "career path" lol.

But he would ceftainly know the law, and no way would he and many others have spelled it out so clearly over recent months, and be so strictly adhering to it, if there isn't actually any traction or legitimacy there.

I just never looked for cold hard facts, but I will see what I can source on it.
 
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I think it's important to treat each other with respect, always, but especially these days, when political discourse has turned so toxic that it's becoming bitter hatred and totally disrespectful. The biggest threat facing us, I believe, is the growing resentment and hatred of the two sides they've created.
Yes, we need to stay together and try our best to accept and support each other regardless of our views and differences.

I strongly believe in the concept of vibrational levels and keeping them at the highest we possibly can.

I definitely appreciate your own positive Energy and non-judgmental contributions and responses on this forum.

I have a very good chance of picking up from here it's just literally the rock bottom I've ever been at in terms of my life force essentially.

But I should start feeling considerably better very soon with this course of medicine. The first three or 4 days the healing and detoxification effects kick in so strongly that it's almost worse than beforehand but then it starts to come remarkably good and continues until the medicine is over and lasts indefinitely until something new requires treatment of some sort.
 
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We are supposed to be America.

Not fall for divide and conquer.

And not turn on each other and snitch.

And then get each other thrown in pig pens.
Right where we are supposed to be

I guess. Right out of the colosseum game of mind fuck.

Ooop. Sorry, I get so too rattled.
 
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