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Election 2020 The 2020 Candidates: Right, Left and Center!

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alasdairm said:
indeed.
alasdair
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alasdair indeed.
Presidents encourage and commit violent acts, Fact.
Presidents are figureheads of a system that is predicated on the use of force and violence, Fact.
Presidents lie. Fact
Bernie lies. Fact
Hillary lies, (a lot) Fact
Trump lies (all the time) Fact
Repubs lie, Dems lie, Fact
So do you. Fact
So do I and I could be lying about some or all of the facts above. Fact
indeed alasdair indeed.
 
Funny that intelligence agencies are warning about potential Russian interference in 2020, but can offer no proof of their claim, while an oligarch has already spent half a billion openly trying to buy an office.

-Joe Clifford



www.rt.com

Democrats resurrect ‘Russiagate’ to go after both Trump and Bernie Sanders, hide their own election trickery

Establishment Democrats have now used the claims of ‘Russian meddling’ to go after their own progressive wing as well as President Donald Trump. The bogus accusation seems to be nothing more than cover for their own wrongdoing.
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Establishment Democrats have now used the claims of ‘Russian meddling’ to go after their own progressive wing as well as President Donald Trump. The bogus accusation seems to be nothing more than cover for their own wrongdoing.

Moscow is now supposedly helping Bernie Sanders in the 2020 US presidential election – that is, if you believe the anonymously sourced Washington Post “bombshell.” This follows a New York Times claim on Thursday that the Kremlin is “again” betting on Trump, written by known partisan hacks and likewise based on anonymous sources.

In the minds of the ‘Russiagate’ cult, the Kremlin is backing Sanders either to get Trump re-elected, or to get a “socialist” president. Never mind that Russia is not socialist, try arguing that there has been precisely zero evidence – now, or back in 2016 – that Russia has backed any US candidate, and watch people’s heads explode. Much like the vaunted US “intelligence community,” they want to believe. That’s the only way they can explain the mind-breaking shock of Hillary Clinton losing to Trump.

Through endless repetition and paranoid denunciations, “Russian meddling” has been elevated to an article of faith, and anyone who dares question it in the slightest is a heretic fit only for the pyre.

So there was little surprise when the canard was trotted out on Thursday, in what was clearly an effort to delegitimize Trump’s pick of Richard Grenell as Director of National Intelligence with a rumored mandate to “clean house” – of, I don’t kn
What’s more shocking, however, is that this accusation has now been leveled against Sanders – and after him spending the past four years proving time and again how he was a loyal DNC foot soldier. Not only did he bend the knee to Clinton after it was documented that she and the DNC colluded to rob him in the primaries, he also jumped on the ‘Russiagate’ bandwagon, and even tried using it just this week to deflect from the Clintonite smear about “Bernie bros” being mean to people online.

Even so, Bernie has now been smeared as a “Russian asset.” Looking at the state of Democrat primaries, the answer is obvious: because he’s winning, despite the DNC’s attempts to promote Pete Buttigieg or literally anyone else in the Iowa caucuses and New Hampshire primaries. With Joe Biden crashing and burning, the party even embraced billionaire media mogul Mike Bloomberg, only to see him wither on the debate stage last Friday and Sanders climb in the polls.

So the paper owned by Jeff Bezos, who reportedly asked Bloomberg to run and stands to pay billions in taxes if Sanders gets elected, breaks the glass and pushes the big red Russiagate button. Perfectly normal, you see.
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novaveritas said:
alasdair indeed.
Presidents encourage and commit violent acts, Fact.
Presidents are figureheads of a system that is predicated on the use of force and violence, Fact.
Presidents lie. Fact
Bernie lies. Fact
Hillary lies, (a lot) Fact
Trump lies (all the time) Fact
Repubs lie, Dems lie, Fact
So do you. Fact
So do I and I could be lying about some or all of the facts above. Fact
indeed alasdair indeed.
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what's your point? that it's all fine because there are no such things as degrees?

alasdair
 
JGrimez said:
This is an example of our selective memories and denial of leftwing violence while amplifying literally any transgressions committed by Trump supporters. I don't even want this to be a "left vs right" thing but it's important to recognize the truth and reality. The very first politically murderous act of Trump's reign was a Bernie supporter trying to murder Republicans during a softball game and he almost killed Rep Steve Scalise. Just recently a crazy never-Trumper drove his car into a crowd of old Boomer republicans in Florida who were signing up voters. Barely got media coverage compared to if the roles were reversed. Also whenever a leftie does something like this the media doesn't obsessively look into their personal affairs for any group connections (I'm insinuating that if you did with this guy you'd probably see direct links to Antifa or other groups).

If Trump has a responsibility to do what you say then so does the liberal media and leftists in general. Conservatives generally call for restraint after an incident, while liberals call for BLOOD.
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I recall somebody or many posting that only republicans or Trump supporters would be capable of violence, leftists wouldnt do such a thing blah blah.
 
^that's ultimate delusion and reversal of reality. Leftist violence is an infinitely larger threat than so-called white supremacists.

BREAKING: Anonymous US intelligence sources say that everyone in the presidential race is a Russian agent but Pete Buttigieg.
 
Marianne Williamson: "The Democratic Party should be on notice: if you even think about using superdelegates to take the nomination from someone who has the plurality of delegates going into Milwaukee, we the people will not take it lying down."


Super delegates seems incredibly dodgy.
 
"This is the first time in American history a candidate (Republican or Democrat) has won the popular vote in the first 3 states in a row.

IN AMERICAN HISTORY."

#FEELTHEBERN
#BERNIEBROS4LIFE
#COLONELSANDERS
#FIRSTJEWISHPRESIDENT
 
Nah been there, done that, I have plenty of degree. Of course if I didn't have a degree in a good fiend already I might feel differently.

JGrimez said:
Leftist violence is an infinitely larger threat than so-called white supremacists.
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A bit sensationally exaggerated, don't you think? I did a little searching and found a list of right-wing extremist violence (there's no anchor to the part of the page but if you scroll down to a table about events since year 2000 that lists deadly events with right wing ties, you'll see it): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_terrorism. I can't find such a list for left-wing violence, I can certainly think of a few recent ones. I'm just wondering if you can provide sources for specific events so support left-wing violence being substantially (infinitely!) more of a threat than right-wing.
 
JGrimez said:
BTW if you don't wanna be put into a cell then don't break the law or enter a country illegally (especially with children).
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God I find this disgustingly heartless.

"break the law", what crap. Human beings will do what they have to do in the circumstances they find themselves in. Hiding behind the law is what you do when you have such a fortunate life yourself that you can afford the luxury of abiding by the arbitrary laws you're subject too.
 
mal3volent said:
I'm feasting on neoliberal tears and they're delicious
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Yeah it's hilarious to see people on cable news freak out after Sanders steamrolled the competition in Nevada.

His victory speech from Texas yesterday was fire. He played all the hits, Medicare 4 All, Green New Deal, 15 dollar minimum wage etc.
 
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