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Conspiracy Theories (“Alternative Research”)

JessFR said:
I will have my revenge for how much of my time, how many hours of absurd YouTube conspiracy videos I've been made to watch!

I once had to spend over half an hour listening to some moron talk about how all the words that end in "ship" are all a part of a brainwashy conspiracy!

I will make you suffer as I had too! :D
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I watched a few regarding the various pyramids over the world and joined some very odd Facebook groups about ancient archaeology.


Honestly, they are fascinating. The admin are explorers and are very good writers, based on scientific tell regarded "fscts".

I guess some things will never be proven without a doubt as the time passage is too great, mystery is wonderful for these things.

And thread bumped so I hoped Grimez would be back...I. am so sad without him. :(


(Not complain, just sober , quitting smoking and teary. I'll cry into my empty cigarette box...boo hoo? :(
 
CoastTwoCoast, do you seriously not see the problem here?

You gave me a video of some guy yelling about something with the sounds of children in the background.

That is the evidence we have here. A video of someone yelling about something, with children in the background.

Everything else is your interpretation, which requires its own evidence.

What evidence do I have that it's podesta in the video beyond the sound of his voice? Cause on its own that's not good evidence.

What evidence do I have that he's hitting anyone? Cause I didn't see it in the video.

What evidence do I have that this video is even real?

I could just as easily put up the same video and argue that it's YOU torturing a child. And I'd have just as much evidence as you've provided.

I'm really trying to give you the benefit of the doubt, as I always try to for conspiracy theorists. I try to keep an open mind. But repeatedly I run into a wall where the actual evidence is very small, and the theory is 90% unsupported interpretation.

And when I ask for evidence validating the interpretations, I'm told that I'm in denial.

I'm asking questions. Isnt that what conspiracy theorists are supposed to support? I'm asking for evidence.

What evidence is there that this video actually shows what you say it does?

Where did it come from? Who made it? Who put it online? What is the evidence establishing who's in it? These are all questions that need answers to make the claim that it's evidence of Podesta beating a child.

But it seems all you have is the video with no evidence of anything else.

Am I wrong to want evidence?

Even taking the whole thing at face value though its only evidence against podesta directly, not anyone else.
 
It's going on behind the stage at Comet Ping Pong where a band is playing. You can CLEARLY tell he is screaming at a child and beating him. The screams of the child are horrific and heartbreaking.

They even put his voice on a computer to prove it's him. You can tell it's his obnoxious accent.
 
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How can I tell he's beating the child? I can barely make out anything in the video portion.

I can hear children crying, but that doesn't actually tell me what they're crying about.

How do I know that the video matches the audio? That it wasn't fabricated? I need to know where the video came from.

And I don't need your permission to post here. I am on topic. You don't own the thread. So if you have a problem I suggest you take it to a higher up because I don't see that I'm doing anything wrong posting here.

I am asking for evidence. That is not the same thing as denying. I haven't said that this video absolutely isn't what you say it is. I've asked for evidence to establish that it is.

That's what you do when you want to find the truth. There's no truth to be found when you just accept what you're told because you want to believe it.
 
I can hear him yelling, presumably at the child. Yes.

I can't see him hitting the kid, and the audio alone doesn't prove anything. How do I know that the video or audio hasn't been manipulated?

Why is the child crying? With so little context I can't really say. It seems quite likely the man in the video is yelling at him, so that's probably why. But that doesn't establish that the man is podesta, nor does it establish that he's hitting the kid.

These are all separate arguments requiring evidence to verify. Instead you seem to just take it to be whatever you want it to be and not worry about evidence.

You'd ever been in court? Ever seen how lawyers present evidence? They're not allowed to just take a piece of evidence and argue that it is what it is. They have to provide what's called "foundation". They have to establish that the evidence is what it claims to be. That's what I'm asking for, foundation.
 
How is it denying to ask for evidence?

The video seems too dark to tell what's doing on. At least on my screen it is.

I didn't hear the kid scream specifically for him to stop hitting him. So all I have is sound, which seems tenuous since regular hand held cameras don't easily pick up sounds of people being hit, but easily pick up all sorts of their stuff. And children don't exclusively scream only when being hit.

Is the kid being hit? Maybe. But I can't see that from the video.

How do I know it's podesta? He's yelling so the sound of his voice is hardly conclusive.

But let's assume it's all true.... OK, so podesta is hitting the kid... Podestas a child abusing asshole.

That doesn't establish the existence of a giant satanic pedophile ring. It doesn't do anything except attest to Podestas character. And even there it doesn't establish that he's a pedophile (though he probably is).
 
It does prove that at Comet Ping Pong they are abusing children. They rape them and kill them. They had a picture of the "Kill Room" on that poster I showed. Comet Ping Pong is just a front for child sex trafficking. It's not only going on at Comet Ping Pong either, it's happening at many different places all over the world. Don't believe then. They laugh at people like you who don't believe. I'm beyond not giving a fuck about people not believing at this point. It's happening whether you believe it or not.
 
CoastTwoCoast said:
It does prove that at Comet Ping Pong they are abusing children. They rape them and kill them. They had a picture of the "Kill Room" on that poster I showed. Comet Ping Pong is just a front for child sex trafficking. It's not only going on at Comet Ping Pong either, it's happening at many different places all over the world. Don't believe then. They laugh at people like you who don't believe. I'm beyond not giving a fuck about people not believing at this point. It's happening whether you believe it or not.
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How does this video prove any of that? Even taking it at largely face value, it proves that one child was physically abused by someone there on this occasion.

The video shows no rape or murder. That's entirely your own supposition.
 
My kid cries like that (ok not quite like that, but it can sound very distressed) if the dog eats the cheese she was snacking on (and waving in dogs face) or if I don't let her watch a YouTube program or when she bumps her head.

From what I can tell that is a music track, they could be seperate incidents of child screaming/crying and some (what sounds like) New England asshole (aren't they all though - I believe the term masshole exists for such folk) wanting to be someone's father. It could be real it could be fabricated. What does it have to do with sacrificing children, lizards, or adrenochrome.


Ftr it pains me to side with a bl mod
 
It's not just the video. It's the poster too. At Comet Ping Pong it shows a grown man holding a young child with hashtag "chickenlovers" That means a pedophile who loves young boys. This is boring.
 
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DopeM said:
My kid crirs like that if the dog eats the cheese she was snacking on (and waving in dogs face) or if I don't let her watch a YouTube program or when she bumps her head.

From what I can tell that is a music track, they could be seperate incidents of child screaming/crying and some (what sounds like) New England asshole (aren't they all though - I believe the term masshole exists for such folk) wanting to be someone's father. It could be real it could be fabricated. What does it have to do with sacrificing children, lizards, or adrenochrome
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Clearly you're in denial... That's obviously a "podesta is trying to rape and murder me" cry. Can't you tell the difference? :)
 
CoastTwoCoast said:
It's not just the video. It's the poster too. At Comet Ping Pong it shows a grown man holding a young child with hashtag "chickenlovers" That means a pedophile who loves young boys. This is boring. I'm not gonna keep going over the same thing over and over. It's retarded. Keep denying everything. It's what you do best.
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Far as I have seen you have yet to ever go over how these code words mean what you say they mean.

If you have access to someone's emails, it's very easy to argue that they're part of a conspiracy if you are able to invent code words to change the meaning of their emails.

Which means that in order to validate that these emails could mean what you say they do, we need to establish that these code words are genuine pedophile code and existed before pizza gate.

Because if the meaning of these code words didn't exist before pizza gate, then it becomes very likely that a conspiracy theorist came up with these interpretations to start with.

Do you get what I'm saying? If these code words existed with these meanings before pizza gate, thats much stronger evidence than it they didn't. Because I can easily say you're saying anything in code if I am allowed to invent or imagine the code myself.

Which is why I want evidence that these code words existed before pizza gate. But nobody has been able to show me that they did, and my own investigation came up empty.
 
You realize that black/heavy metal is notorious for making their own clips of this sort of thing?

Today's modern technology in recording allows the wildest flights of fancy to be followed, created, recorded, and spread
 
The emails weren't leaked before this and it's not like the authorities are gonna come out and expose what code words Presidents and government officials use for raping little children.

If you look at that poster, the FBI showed symbols that pedophiles use and you can see those symbols on certain buildings.
 
CoastTwoCoast said:
The emails weren't leaked before this and it's not like the authorities are gonna come out and expose what code words Presidents and government officials use for raping little children.

If you look at that poster, the FBI showed symbols that pedophiles use and you can see those symbols on certain buildings.
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So I'm right, these code words came into existence along with pizza gate. Which means it's entirely possible that a conspiracy theorist, looking for proof of child sex abuse, made up these interpretations to start with.

And they don't have to advertise. Law enforcement works out these code words using undercover agents. If they were real, it shouldn't be too hard to establish.
 
JessFR said:
So I'm right, these code words came into existence along with pizza gate. Which means it's entirely possible that a conspiracy theorist, looking for proof of child sex abuse, made up these interpretations to start with.
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No. It's obvious what they're talking about and the Comet Ping Pong clearly shows what's going on there. Emails have never been leaked before so there was no other evidence of the code words before now. Keep denying. IDGAF.

Plus you already know about Epstein and the Clintons going to pedophile island all the time.
 
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