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Are all white people racist? Who is?

However most people on the left don't believe that crap. Pointing out a handful of people saying it is not evidence that it is what "leftists" believe.

I hate the term "leftist", by the way. I hate all the blanket terms that have been attributed to the "sides" and are used to drum up bad feelings and increase the tribalism situation.

Sorry on this one as we usually kinda agree on stuff but everyone from "the left" I've come across is the same & I would push them off a cliff & laugh about it.
I have no time for the "right" nutcases too BUT if I had to pick I'd go the right above the left.

The issue with the left is they cry all the time over stuff, moan YET never wish to do anything about their opinions, I am yet to come across a Communist I like.
 
lol...so you're saying wealthy black men don't get the same treatment as non-wealthy white men from white doctors, because of systemic racism?

No. It was an example, and you’re throwing in descriptions that I didn’t. (There are wealthy white people and non-white doctors.) The black patient fares worst in the health care system regardless. See medical sociology, health care inequalities.

You want to cure the doctor of his wrong-think, and you'll have to send him and all the others like him to one of your re-education camps. Hopefully not in Siberia this time.

In your mind the doctor is male, of course.

create equal likelihood of outcome... in terms of man-made systems, we can intervene . This is just thinly disguised socialism, candy-wrapped Communism.

Just because we’ve gone past the water’s edge of nuance for you doesn’t mean I’m a Communist.

It is not enough in your view that we have equal opportunities. If it were, you would simply say so.

Separate but unequal is inherently unequal. Brown v. Board of Education


You can only achieve your goals with violence, underhandedness. It is devious and predictably leads to murder as it has done every single time.
Even if you do not realize it.

I’ve heard this song before...any new viewpoints? No? Okay. I think you’re done pigeon holing me and I’m done for others who might read it.

What is interesting is that Trump will have to up his game for the base and we’ll have to see just how much more racist he can make it. And watch all the Trump supporters ask for proof he’s a racist. How amusing. ?
 
I think you’re done pigeon holing me and I’m done for others who might read it.
You're not communist.
You are right. That pigeon holing crap was really shitty of me.
Sorry about that.
Could it be that in my mind the doctor was a man because in your scenario the patient was man? :rolleyes:
 
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In a way what Trump said about those women going back to where they came from is right in a way.
The irony is 3 of them were born in the USA but one of them is from Somalia so she does have a place to go back to if she hates the USA so much.

The thing that gets me with the left like these people he is on about is they bang ON & ON about the great wonders of a Communist / Socialist state YET never go live there for good.....how strange that is huh.
 
1) ANY race can be racist; it's not exclusive to Caucasians. I had a latino boyfriend about 8 years ago and his parents HATED me and tried their best to ban him from seeing me (we were like 15 at the time). To be fair to them, they "caught" us making out one day, he didn't just introduce them to me. He later tried to but they were having none of it. We both assumed it was because they didn't accept him being gay and having a boyfriend. So he confronted them: nope! They didn't give a shit that he had a boyfriend, they hated that he had a WHITE boyfriend.

2) I'm white and as far from racist as you can get. We're not all bigoted assholes, you know :)
I think Trump is just trying to shit all over all of the good that Obama did.
 
It is important to distinguish different kinds or degrees, if you will, of racism. Slavery for example is different than Jim Crow laws.

In a way what Trump said about those women going back to where they came from is right in a way.
What Trump said about our American citizens going back to fix their own issues would be third degree racism, according to this article:

Racism in the Third Degree: Separate but Equal
"... Of course racism is bad, but why can’t I just be friends with people like me and why can’t those people over there deal with their own problems?"
 
The irony is 3 of them were born in the USA but one of them is from Somalia so she does have a place to go back to if she hates the USA so much.
just because somebody thinks we can do better doesn't mean they hate the u.s.a.

that's lazy, divisive, trump logic.

The thing that gets me with the left like these people he is on about is they bang ON & ON about the great wonders of a Communist / Socialist state YET never go live there for good.....how strange that is huh.
conflating communism, socialism and progressive, democratic socialism - deliberately or otherwise - is, again, lazy and divisive.

how strange is that? it's not strange at all. why should they go anywhere? they're u.s. citizens elected to represent their districts. they see problems. they voice their opinion on those problems and their solutions...

alasdair
 
conflating communism, socialism and progressive, democratic socialism - deliberately or otherwise - is, again, lazy and divisive.
Not usually. When we suspect a skin cancer, we may conflate basal-cell skin cancer (BCC), squamous-cell skin cancer (SCC) and melanoma. The doctors can work out which is which. One thing is certain, that shit needs to be cut out.
Same thing with Communism Type A, B, or C. There are important distinctions of course, but it is the shared attributes that matter the most. Just like cancer. Undesirable. Destructive. Necrotic.
 
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The worst argument ever is that 'Black people, and others who are not European/white cannot be racist!'.

This is not true and there are lots of non-European/non-white people who are extremely racist. Not only towards other races but their own race as well. Black lives matter in the United States is a racist hate group.
 
In a way what Trump said about those women going back to where they came from is right in a way.
The irony is 3 of them were born in the USA but one of them is from Somalia so she does have a place to go back to if she hates the USA so much.

The thing that gets me with the left like these people he is on about is they bang ON & ON about the great wonders of a Communist / Socialist state YET never go live there for good.....how strange that is huh.
They can all go to Venezuela, North Korea, Cuba, or the PRC and starve.
 
White women around the country are invited to join private dinners where they can “bear witness” to the pain of “Black and Brown” women.
Race To Dinner is aimed at white women and was co-founded by Saira Rao after her 2018 congressional run, according to the website: https://race2dinner.com/

MISSION
Our mission is simple - reveal the naked truth about RACISM in America and YOUR COMPLICITY as white women. This isn’t the stuff of Trump, the KKK and Nazis. That’s easy, it’s obvious and denouncing it requires almost nothing of white folks. What’s hard? Looking at yourself in the mirror and acknowledging that, as a white person in America, you are an active participant in upholding white supremacy. This isn’t personal. This doesn’t make you bad. This is systemic. And this makes you human who is part of that system. As Black and Brown women, we too are humans who are part of the system. Only we are on the other side: we are on the receiving end of white supremacy while you are on the giving end. Until and unless white folks are willing to bear witness to the pain they’ve caused, we will never see change. The system of oppression will remain safely in place until white people - ALL WHITE PEOPLE - are willing to acknowledge their complicity.
 
Leftist ideology is saturated with Critical Race Theory (All whites are racist)

Some examples:

BOSTON — During a guest lecture at Boston University on Monday, University of Washington Professor Robin DiAngelo told the audience a “dangerous white person” sees people as individuals rather than by skin color.
DiAngelo, whose main field of work is “whiteness studies,” added that those who say they were taught to treat everyone the same deny black people of their reality, she said.


A tenured sociology professor at Trinity College professor tweeted “Whiteness is terrorism” on Easter and referring to Barack and Michelle Obama as “white kneegrows.”
In a second tweet Sunday, Johnny Eric Williams, who is black, wrote: “All self-identified white people (no exceptions) are invested in and collude with systemic white racism/white supremacy.”


Indiana University—Purdue University Indianapolis (IUPUI) is hosting a “White Racial Literacy Project” aimed at making white students aware that they have racist thoughts and unknowingly commit racist acts. Events are racially segregated, in which speakers are expected to help white students understand how they can change.

 
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The worst argument ever is that 'Black people, and others who are not European/white cannot be racist!'.

This is not true and there are lots of non-European/non-white people who are extremely racist. Not only towards other races but their own race as well. Black lives matter in the United States is a racist hate group.

The idea that non-white people can't be racist is absurd. I have met some people who tried to tell me that. However, using the fact that some extremists believe that as some sort of argument against racism existing is equally absurd.
 
I saw that, the responses tore her to shreds in the tweet thread I saw. Have to wonder if it is honestly her view, or an attempt to stir shit further.
 
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