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The 2018 Trump Presidency thread

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let's not forget this whole fuss began when acosta simply asked the president a question he didn't like.

he asked him a question.

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Can someone just summarize everything? I'm sorry, i'm really bad at life.

I know my state now has medical marijuana, thank god. I have reasons for it.
 
spacejunk said:
Trump really seems to be stepping up the aggressive attacks on the press and anyone that questions him.

The thing with Jim Acosta and CNN is just bizarre. The irony of Trump calling him a very rude person...

I get the impression that shit is going to get ugly. I mean - it's already very fucking ugly, in terms of attempted assassinations by mail bomb, and certain member's of trump's base being more than happy to kill for the cause.
I do worry about what is yet to come. Shameful - and scary.
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More and more I'm noticing how trumps paranoia and disregard for the law reminds me of Nixon. Hopefully he'll end up leaving office the same way.

Though I doubt trump will resign, he will fight any attempt to impeach him to the bloody end.
 
From the liberal WSJ:

Donald Trump Played Central Role in Hush Payoffs to Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal

Federal prosecutors have gathered evidence of president?s participation in transactions that violated campaign-finance laws

As a presidential candidate in August 2015, Donald Trump huddled with a longtime friend, media executive David Pecker, in his cluttered 26th floor Trump Tower office and made a request.

What can you do to help my campaign? he asked, according to people familiar with the meeting.
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Stock Photo of Trump Just about to Lie

Mr. Pecker, chief executive of American Media Inc., offered to use his National Enquirer tabloid to buy the silence of women if they tried to publicize alleged sexual encounters with Mr. Trump.

Less than a year later, Mr. Trump asked Mr. Pecker to quash the story of a former Playboy model who said they?d had an affair. Mr. Pecker?s company soon paid $150,000 to the model, Karen McDougal, to keep her from speaking publicly about it. Mr. Trump later thanked Mr. Pecker for the assistance.

The Trump Tower meeting and its aftermath are among several previously unreported instances in which Mr. Trump intervened directly to suppress stories about his alleged sexual encounters with women, according to interviews with three dozen people who have direct knowledge of the events or who have been briefed on them, as well as court papers, corporate records and other documents.
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@TheLoveBandit: you'll have to forgive me, my life right now is... complicated. so i'll keep this short.

i don't doubt for one second your smart enough to know/figure out the rest. i think part of your point was for us to hash it out, keep the thread on track and in part a small clarity for yourself (stability, progress and a learning experience in practice to all three aforementioned reasons) but my mind is becoming unstable so i don't rightly know. good f'n question all the same.

TheLoveBandit said:
The hatred also puzzles me a bit. I don't feel threatened by him, so I'm trying to understand what drives such an emotional reaction among so many folks. Particularly for the fact that when emotion takes over, reason recedes, in any situation. And this is really what I find interesting...the seething hatred is unlike anything I've seen before, but when peeled back for reason..??
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"it's no good to fight with hatred, but it's alright to fight with anger. anger is something that is directed towards what the opponent does. but hatred is something that is directed at the opponent himself... you shouldn't hate the sinners, but sins must not be sanctioned."

to be in opposition to some one is to know them more intimately in a way than even those who are close to them can understand them. like the many layers of the mind likened to an onion analogy, you peel away much of what is not known to most about that person to understand their true self. none more so than someone who is in the spotlight of the world stage. being so prominent and in a position of power which threads he pulls at will be more detrimental to the fabric of this country and how human beings work towards achieving something if done so with malintent or carelessness.

you and other people much greater than i will have to smooth out the rough edges on this one.
 
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I hate to sound like a conspiracy theorist but Trump, during that press conference where he answered like, nothing, seems like an overgrown baby with something really really heinous on his mind. Like potentially earth shattering, literally.
 
iridescentblack said:
I hate to sound like a conspiracy theorist but Trump, during that press conference where he answered like, nothing, seems like an overgrown baby with something really really heinous on his mind. Like potentially earth shattering, literally.
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I don't think you meant that literally. :D

You're right though, that he's an overgrown baby at least. In some ways that's good though. Yes he is likely to do heinous shit that's totally illegal, but because he's a big toddler he's bound to be caught and undone by it eventually.
 
Policy is now built on the limits of Trump's reading comprehension, allegedly.

Trump reportedly wants to stop giving Puerto Rico hurricane relief funds because he thinks, without evidence, that the government is using it to pay off its debt

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  • President Donald Trump has reportedly told White House officials that he wants to stop giving Puerto Rico federal funding for hurricane recovery.


  • According to the news website Axios, his reasoning included a baseless claim that the US territory was using federal funding meant to go toward recovery from Hurricane Maria to pay off debt.

President Donald Trump wants stop giving Puerto Rico federal funding for Hurricane Maria recovery, according to a report from the news website Axios.

According to the report, White House officials have told congressional leadership of Trump's intentions and, as reasoning, mentioned a baseless claim that Puerto Rico's government was using the disaster relief money to pay off debt.

Trump can't reclaim disaster funds already distributed to Puerto Rico or set aside by Congress, but he could refuse to sign future spending bills, as Axios noted.

A Wall Street Journal article in October said Puerto Rico bond prices soared after the Municipal Securities Rulemaking Board, a federal US body that runs Puerto Rico's finances, raised its expectations for disaster funding and economic growth.

Trump was reportedly angry about the article, which one source said he misinterpreted, and developed a conspiracy theory that disaster relief funds were paying off debt in Puerto Rico. He publicly made the claim in a tweet last month.

A congressional leadership aide told Axios that White House officials had told Congress that Trump "doesn't want to include additional Puerto Rico funding in further spending bills."

"He was unhappy with what he believed was mismanagement of money," the aide said.
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Trump is preparing to remove Kirstjen Nielsen as Homeland Security secretary, aides say

President Trump has told advisers he has decided to remove Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, and her departure from the administration is likely to occur in the coming weeks, if not sooner, according to five current and former White House officials.

Trump canceled a planned trip with Nielsen this week to visit U.S. troops at the border in South Texas and told aides over the weekend that he wants her out as soon as possible, these officials said. The president has grumbled for months about what he views as Nielsen?s lackluster performance on immigration enforcement and is believed to be looking for a replacement who will implement his policy ideas with more alacrity.

The announcement could come as soon as this week, three of these officials said.

Trump has changed his mind on key personnel decisions before, and Chief of Staff John F. Kelly is fighting Nielsen?s pending dismissal and attempting to postpone it, aides say. But Kelly?s future in the administration also is shaky, according to three White House officials.
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(Full article at link)

Nielsen is a protege of Kelly's, so it will be interesting to see how this plays out. It could just be a leak to undermine Kelly, Nielsen, or both.

We do need someone "strong*" to handle THE CARAVAN!

*strong is code for sycophantic Trumpian white male. :\
 
Captain.Heroin said:
Meanwhile, in Trump's America...

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Unlike Sarah Huckabee Sanders, I didn't need to photoshop this image.
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No link? No explanation? Here, lemme help:


Photographer: Wisconsin boys' alleged Nazi salute photo was innocent

he photographer who took a picture of boys from Baraboo High School giving what appears to be a Nazi salute says he simply asked the students to wave goodbye to their parents.

Pete Gust told community journalism website Madison 365 that the pre-prom photo, which has been shared widely on social media, was innocent. He says he asked the boys to give him a "high five" for the photo taken in May on the steps of the Sauk County Courthouse in downtown Baraboo, about 115 miles (185 kilometers) northwest of Milwaukee.

Public demands action from Baraboo School Board for Nazi salute photo
Gust has removed the photo from his website, Wheel Memories, where it had been posted since May, and wrote "To anyone that was hurt I sincerely apologize."
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This is what happens when people see racism in everything. Even where it isn't.
 
I would have to dig up a YouTube video assuming CNN uploaded it which I am sure they did.

People in the states normally wave goodbye with their elbow closer to the torso.

Either way I am all for the 1st amendment. I really don’t care. It’s not illegal to heil hitler. We didn’t lose the 1st amendment.
 
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/baraboo-high-school-nazi-salute-photo-student-refused-to-participate/

Not just CNN.

"He did not say raise your hand in a Nazi symbol way. And I'm pretty sure my classmates just interpreted as raise your hand, let's do this as a joke," Blue said, adding that he thinks the others knew what the symbol represented.

"It did not represent my morals, and I could not do something that I didn't believe in," Blue said.
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"Waving goodbye to mom and dad" seems like a Republican echo chamber lie or alternative fact, as if Kellyanne Conway thought it up herself. Just saying.

The photo surfaced in a now-deleted tweet on Sunday with the caption: "We even got the black kid to throw it up." At least one student is seen making the OK gesture, which some associate with white supremacists.

The photographer, Peter Gust, defended the students in an interview with a local TV station, saying the gestures are being taken out of context.

"I said, 'OK boys, you're going to say goodbye to your parents. So wave,'" Gust said. "For society to now turn it around and now blame these kids is absolutely wrong."
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Seems like a dude trying to save his job, more than telling the truth.

Asked whether the students are regretful, Blue said, "I think so."

"Some of these people have bright futures ahead of them. ... So why did they do it?" Blue said.

Blue said at least one parent yelled for the students to stop while the photo was being taken. The Baraboo school district condemned the gestures and said it's investigating.
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One parent yelled at them to stop doing it, oh yes, so innocent. No feelings hurt. :\
 
So extra...Melania gets someone canned.

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The other brewing West Wing drama

...Almost everyone in the White House ? and far beyond that to the Defense Department ? has come to loathe National Security Adviser John Bolton's enforcer, Deputy National Security Adviser Mira Ricardel.


  • Ricardel made the mistake of making an enemy of First Lady Melania Trump. As the Wall Street Journal reported, and Swan has confirmed: "A rift emerged after Mrs. Trump staff?s battled with Ms. Ricardel during the first lady?s trip to Africa last month over seating on the plane and requests to use National Security Council resources."


  • The First Lady's spokeswoman,Stephanie Grisham, spoke for many in the White House who are too afraid to say such things on the record when she issued an extraordinary statement: "It is the position of the Office of the First Lady that she no longer deserves the honor of serving in this White House."

The statement was so hot it shocked even longtime Trump aides who are desensitized to the daily mayhem.


  • The big picture: White House aides say Ricardel is likely to need a new job, and probably soon. But as of Tuesday night she was still employed in the White House, according to a senior official. White House officials believe she'll eventually be eased into another role, far, far, away from the West Wing.
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It's working:

It looks like Melania Trump might get her wish ? John Bolton's No. 2 is reportedly set to be ousted at the White House

Tweet from Wall Street Journal reporter in story at second link:

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Why are people going mental over that picture?

Even if they all intentionally did a nazi salute it doesn't mean that they're racist. It doesn't mean anything.

Surely nobody was actually hurt by this. At the very most it's a bunch of school kids fucking about. If anyone was trying to cause offence it was that guy that refused to salute and then spread it online and the victims are the other kids.. this kind of over the top social justice crap could potentially (and probably already has) ruin friendships, education and job prospects.

People need to chill out.. it's getting ridiculous.
 
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