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End The War On Drugs

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funnydan

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Legalize both medical and recreational cannabis on the federal level

(Removing it from the DEA list of controlled substances)

Have the FDA regulate medical cannabis

(Allowing doctors to prescribe it to their patients)

Split the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives into two separate agencies

(Creating the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Recreational Cannabis)

Have the new ATRC regulate recreational cannabis just like alcohol

(21 and up, no driving while impaired, anyone can grow it but you need a license to sell)

Put a State and Federal tax on the retail sale of recreational cannabis

(Just like alcohol and tobacco)

Use the majority of the money from the recreational cannabis sales tax to build
new rehab and mental healthcare centers

(Focusing on harm reduction by providing
access to narcan and clean needles)

Use the rest of the money on a nationwide public education campaign meant to teach people about addiction

(Help people understand that addiction is a chronic disease and not a crime or a moral failing)

Decriminalize the possession and consumption of all illicit substances, just like Portugal

(If someone is found in possession of less than a 10-day supply of anything, they are sent to a Commission for the Dissuasion of Drug Addiction who then recommends either rehab, or a minor fine)

Release all nonviolent drug offenders

(Expunging all drug related charges from everyones criminal records)

Use the new rehab centers as halfway houses to help rehabilitate the ex-convicts

(Providing the ex-cons access to social workers who can help them reintegrate back into society)

Benefits of Legalizing Cannabis and Decriminalizing The Possession and Consumption of All Illicit Substances

Helps fight against the heroin epidemic

Helps fight against the Mexican drug cartels

Helps fight against the social stigma associated with drug addiction

Reduces the amount of opioid overdose deaths

Reduces the amount of drug related HIV infections

Reduces Americas overall addiction rate

Reduces Americas prison population

Creates a solution to Americas mental healthcare crisis

Creates a lot of new jobs in many different fields

Finally allows unrestricted scientific research
 
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Plus Some Sources

Portugal?s Drug Policy Pays Off
http://archive.sltrib.com/article.php?id=50940789&itype=cmsid

14 Years After Decriminalizing All Drugs, Here?s what Portugal Looks Like
https://m.mic.com/articles/110344/1...-all-drugs-here-s-what-s-happening#.mYPU5ezHR

The Success of Portugal?s Decriminalization Policy- In Seven Charts
https://www.tdpf.org.uk/blog/success-portugal’s-decriminalisation-policy-–-seven-charts

Drugs and the Correctional System (Prisons, Jails, Probation and Parole)
http://drugwarfacts.org/chapter/drug_prison

Mass Incarceration: The Whole Pie 2017
https://www.prisonpolicy.org/reports/pie2017.html

Legalizing Marijuana Decreases Fatal Opiate Overdoses, Study Shows
https://drugabuse.com/legalizing-marijuana-decreases-fatal-opiate-overdoses/

Study: Medical marijuana Could Lead to Fewer
Prescription Painkiller Deaths
https://www.vox.com/2014/8/25/60653...zation-linked-to-less-prescription-painkiller

The Failed War On Drugs
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/31/...=latest&contentPlacement=10&pgtype=collection
 
Keep the war on drugs. It's fucking funny. Not to those locked up, granted, but, y'know...gave a lot of material to Bill Hicks.
 
I'm assuming these are your thoughts and proposals, based on the supporting links you provided (and lack of a link for the OP list)?

Rather than a snarky 'move to Portugal' remark, I'll commend you for putting a lot of thought into it. Can you go a little deeper on any of those to provide details on HOW these steps could be implemented, any expected issues or concerns and how to handle them (such as funding, or expunging records)?
 
Captain.Heroin said:
No I like things the way it is now. I do not need a prescription for marijuana. Just legalize it.
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We should legalize both recreational and medical cannabis. That way you can still smoke your marijuana, and the sick kids can still get their medicine.
 
I do not support full legalization. Certain drugs (like heroin, meth or crack) are just too dangerous to legalize
 
^Lol then what do you support in regards to those drugs, legally speaking? Should heroin users etc. spend jail time?


Just maralize legajuana mannnnn.
 
Drugs just being legalised is very silly, there would stll be the associated crime, deaths, family breakups and black market anyway, the actions of drug addicts that affect lives of others, I would ne er expect drugs to ever totally be legalised.

Putting out the message of harm reduction and being able to avoid getting in trouble would be better than just wishing for a scenario which is impossible. :|
 
funnydan said:
I do not support full legalization. Certain drugs (like heroin, meth or crack) are just too dangerous to legalize
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Yeah, that's just dumb. All 3 of the drugs you think are "too dangerous to legalise" are used medicinally (in some form) to this day.

They're still going to exist, people will still get them and use them for non-medical purposes, the whole fucking ridiculous rigmarole of the current situation will still be going on with your half-assed boneheaded proposal to "End the war on drugs, but not completely, just for the drugs that I like to use." 8)


zephyr said:
Drugs just being legalised is very silly, there would stll be the associated crime, deaths, family breakups and black market anyway, the actions of drug addicts that affect lives of others, I would ne er expect drugs to ever totally be legalised.

Putting out the message of harm reduction and being able to avoid getting in trouble would be better than just wishing for a scenario which is impossible.
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I think it's very silly to assert that drugs being legalised would not, by definition, immediately, massively reduce the amount of crime associated with them, the bulk of which is connected to the very fact that they are themselves illegal.

On the contrary, it's very silly to propose that harm reduction advice could ever be a total non-issue when the very subject of this advice is currently, inherently, a crime. The only way that harm reduction advice is every going to not be controversial, even if in the smallest possible way, is if the subject matter (drugs) is no longer a crime.
 
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Lagalising and regulating all drugs of abuse immediately removes the rebellious aspect of drug taking. Overnight, it suddenly becomes less cool to take drugs for the younger generation. The problem is, they'll just find something worse to rebel with - like jenkem...
 
They're never going to stop the war on the drugs. It's like the war on terror. It makes the Government too much money. It allows them to raise funds for wars and black projects outside usual channels. You don't have to raise money for arms for a war you don't claim to be in if you can just runs some cocaine or opium. Freeway Rick Ross and several people in the CIA admitted this almost two decades ago and it was swept under the rug.

Drugs and firearms are just good business. We're never going back to the days of traveling patent medicine salesman and opium dens. Any substance of value will be regulated and sold through official channels or outright banned. They'll even get you hooked on one substance, take it away, and charge you double for the substance that can cure your addiction or prevent the withdrawal. They want you sedated and they want you buying it directly from them instead of growing it yourself.

You think they'll legalize cannabis when they make billions a year off people peeing in cups to keep a job?

https://theantimedia.com/opioid-addiction-drug/

A member of the billionaire family that owns Purdue Pharmaceuticals, which is currently the target of multiple lawsuits over its complicity in perpetuating the opioid crisis, just received rights to a patent for a drug intended to curb the opioid crisis.

Dr. Richard Sackler is listed as one of six inventors of the patent, which was approved in January but came to light this week in a report from the Financial Times. The patent office granted the rights to Rhodes Pharmaceuticals, a subsidiary of Purdue.

The patent is for a new version of the drug buprenorphine, which is already FDA approved in tablet and film form. The new version would come in wafer form, meaning it can dissolve more quickly. According to claims in the patent, the faster the treatment dissolves, the less risk of diversion among addicts.
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See how it works? As soon as a generic comes out and the patent expires they just take the old version off the market, tweak the pill a bit, and patent it again. Costs them a penny to make each tablet, costs you $200-$400 a month plus signing your life and freedom away. Now pee in the cup or we'll take away your meds.

Enjoy the ride because it's never going to end.
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
Lagalising and regulating all drugs of abuse immediately removes the rebellious aspect of drug taking. Overnight, it suddenly becomes less cool to take drugs for the younger generation. The problem is, they'll just find something worse to rebel with - like jenkem...
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This. Look at how few Dutch people smoke marijuana. It's mostly tourists.

If you're not going to legalize everything then at least decriminalize. Portugal proved that funneling money away from enforcing and into social support will reduce addiction rates (and make your country an awesome tourism destination).

Politicians are either fucking dumb, or they have a financial incentive is trafficking drugs and privatizing prisons..
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
Lagalising and regulating all drugs of abuse immediately removes the rebellious aspect of drug taking. Overnight, it suddenly becomes less cool to take drugs for the younger generation. The problem is, they'll just find something worse to rebel with - like jenkem...
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or worse... khakis!

it's like everyone's parents listening to rap over night. gangbangers would start blaring mozart, bach and beethoven.

we got 50 states here and maybe one state for each drug gets legalized, with one state where all drugs are legal and one state where none are. let the hawaiin's legalize pot and ban all other substances. alaska has their alcohol as it is so a lil absinthe to keep the cold out aint a bad idea.

now if we could only get the jenkem out of the district of columbia
 
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even cops agree that drug prohibition needs to end

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Cream Gravy? said:
^Lol then what do you support in regards to those drugs, legally speaking? Should heroin users etc. spend jail time?


Just maralize legajuana mannnnn.
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As I stated in the original post, I believe all drugs should be decriminalized, not legalized. No one should have to serve time for a non-violent drug offense.
 
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