Misc Why don't I feel Kratom anymore?

[Mynameisphil]

Hey guys, I started to take Kratom about 2-3 months ago and fell in love! For the last few weeks though, I don't feel Kratom at all? Except maybe a feeling of disorientation?

I have not been taking Kratom daily, so I don't believe its tolerence, as I have tried to up the dosage even more to feel the effects.

I take Kratom maybe 2-3 times a week and even took a week and a half break just to see if I had a tolerence issue.

At first I thought it was just this new strain I tried, so I tried another one tonight and still, barely feel anything.


Any help would be appreciated as Kratom was my favorite feeling of any drug I have done.

BTW I started with doses between 5-7 grams, which was perfect. I then experiemented upping it to 9-12 grams, which was just as great, but now I feel nothing but naseua and a general disorientation feeling from the drug.

Should I just try to take a month off?

 

[Snake_Eyes]

Could just be a bad batch, could be that your body is just too used to the euphoric effects and taking a break might be the only thing that will get them back. When I tried 16 grams which was much higher than my regular dose and it failed to give me a buzz I knew I needed a break, a month later staying away from all opioids I was able to the feeling back.

 

[Mynameisphil]

Ugh I've been dreading taking a break as I just took about a week and a half. I just moved to a new town and have been wanting it to deal with my anxiety but it hasn't been doing anything, so it's probably best to take a break.

As for a bad batch, I just got a new one im the mail so im not sure that's it

Is it possible it's because I've been redosing a lot because I take it and get upset that I don't feel it as well so then I take some
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[SS373dOH]

Sounds like you have a case of the old 'tolerance'.. At this point you can either increase your dose, but this will only make the problem worse down the road. Or you can take a tolerance break, to bring your base tolerance back to normal levels.

 

[Mynameisphil]

It's weird because I did try to take around 15 grams at one point, but still feel maybe 40% of what I used to feel. How long would a decent tolerance break be?

 

[blime84]

you could graduate to a real opiate and realize that kratom was legal for a reason. i tried using it to detox once from heroin. it did absolutely nothing for me. I had more effect from eating 15 immodium pills, that allowed me to sleep at least

 

[Mycophile]

you could graduate to a real opiate and realize that kratom was legal for a reason. i tried using it to detox once from heroin. it did absolutely nothing for me. I had more effect from eating 15 immodium pills, that allowed me to sleep at least

So you are trying to say that Kratom is legal because it's an ineffective opioid and also that it doesn't work for Heroin WD???

Because there's probably about 50 posters on this forum who were Heroin addicts or hard Opiate addicts who successfully used Kratom to detox from Heroin so you would be in the minority by suggesting it doesn't help or work.

I LOVE Kratom, but then again I've never done Heroin and never will.

You probably just had SUCH a heavy heroin addiction that Kratom wasn't strong enough to help with your WD, but unfortunately Kratom isn't legal because it's not a strong opioid.

There are all kinds of different political reasons why Kratom is legal, and many states and countries are trying to make it illegal so lets just hope it stays legal.

 

[Mycophile]

It's weird because I did try to take around 15 grams at one point, but still feel maybe 40% of what I used to feel. How long would a decent tolerance break be?

Hard question because at one point I was eating an ounce or more in a single dose to get high and then I took a 90 day break and afterwards I was back to the point where 14 grams was a good dose to get me high, but that's still a high dose to need.

IMO in order to REALLY get your tolerance back REALLY low if it was ever extremely high before it takes a LONG LONG time.

Like if 90 days cut my tolerance in half from needing an ounce to needing 14 grams then I'd assume it would have taken AT LEAST 6 months to get it back to needing 7 grams or so and I think it's possible I MIGHT not EVER be able to get it that low again.

It is actually possible to kind of permanently fuck up your Kratom tolerance unfortunately.

I'm not sure why you aren't feeling yours, but you could either try dosing higher, try taking a tolerance break, or try different strains or vendors than you are used to and all those things might be able to help.

 

[Mynameisphil]

That's such a bummer! Especially considering I've only used it sparingly over the last 2-3 months. Oh well, it's probably better for me to do less drugs anyways. As for the guy who suggested to graduate to stronger opiates.

The whole reason I love Kratom and use it is I have found it to be my medium in drug use. I don't want to take harder drugs. Kratom allows me to be high and enjoy myself every once in a while without it turning into a big problem. Addiction wise, cost wise, and legality.

 

[Mycophile]

That's such a bummer! Especially considering I've only used it sparingly over the last 2-3 months. Oh well, it's probably better for me to do less drugs anyways. As for the guy who suggested to graduate to stronger opiates.

The whole reason I love Kratom and use it is I have found it to be my medium in drug use. I don't want to take harder drugs. Kratom allows me to be high and enjoy myself every once in a while without it turning into a big problem. Addiction wise, cost wise, and legality.

Yeah Kratom is probably my favorite drug other than shrooms and is SO much better than harder opioids/opiates for many reasons and is MUCH safer IMO.

I think you could PROBABLY get back to the point where it gets you high again but Kratom is a very funny drug and does funny things at times.

There's lots of people who I've heard mention things like what you are saying.

I bet sooner or later somehow you'll get high off it again but I don't really have any answers other than try taking a tolerance break or try some other vendors or strains.

I would NOT suggest you try extracts because they are stronger and will RUIN your Kratom tolerance IF you use them more than a VERY little bit.

I myself am about to take some UEI extract tonight and tomorrow night, but then I'm going on like a 6 or more month break from Kratom so it's not going to probably matter for my tolerance.

I'm not even taking this break for tolerance reasons, but just because I think Kratom use has been making me TOO satisfied with my life and there's some shit I need to get done that I think I'll be more effective at doing without kratom in my life TEMPORARILY....but once I accomplish those goals I'm going to use Kratom again.

 

[Mynameisphil]

Thanks for the advice man! And I wish you luck and hope you get the stuff done you need too. It's probably best for me to let go of Kratom for a bit too. I've been noticing a psychological addiction forming as I have been using Kratom as a crutch to make me happier and more motivated. Its just so hard to let go of something you love lol. It's not like I've reached the point of where it's ruining my life either, so my brain keeps making excuses to use it.

But there is no point in taking it now if it's not making me feel as good as it used to. So I'll use that way of thinkjng to help me push at least one month of a break

 

[Mycophile]

Thanks for the advice man! And I wish you luck and hope you get the stuff done you need too. It's probably best for me to let go of Kratom for a bit too. I've been noticing a psychological addiction forming as I have been using Kratom as a crutch to make me happier and more motivated. Its just so hard to let go of something you love lol. It's not like I've reached the point of where it's ruining my life either, so my brain keeps making excuses to use it.

But there is no point in taking it now if it's not making me feel as good as it used to. So I'll use that way of thinkjng to help me push at least one month of a break

Yeah, I have a BIG TIME psychological addiction to it, but only a MINOR physical addiction.

I've never used Kratom more than 4 days in a single week or more than 16 days in a month, even though I used it for the first time 2 years ago, and it took about a year and a half before I FINALLY started to notice some WD and realized I was using too much because I worked REALLY hard on NEVER allowing myself to use it more than a few days a week.

I've heard other people use it and then 2 months later they are using it all day every day and I just think those people don't try hard enough to keep the addiction under control.

I think it's within everyone's power to control their drug usage to SOME extent even though some people are more prone to addiction than others.

But Kratom is really a very mild drug and I think in time science WILL show hopefully that it is not very dangerous.

In general it's never really killed anyone other than a few freak accidents.

The reason it is my favorite drug is cause doing it is like getting high without getting "fucked up".


When I am on Kratom NO ONE can tell, not my own family or friends, NO ONE.

And the best way I can put it is that when I take it I just instantly am in a good mood!!

It's just like the "good mood drug" without fucking you up like alcohol or even weed, not fucking you up like harder opiates like Oxy or Hydro or worse, gives you energy but also relaxes you.

Out of any drug I ever used in my life nothing else ever seemed ALMOST like the perfect drug more than Kratom.

Yeah, I would assume if you take a month break and then try some different strains you might be able to get some of the effect back.

Best of luck.

 

[strity1994]

Yeah, I have a BIG TIME psychological addiction to it, but only a MINOR physical addiction.

I've never used Kratom more than 4 days in a single week or more than 16 days in a month, even though I used it for the first time 2 years ago, and it took about a year and a half before I FINALLY started to notice some WD and realized I was using too much because I worked REALLY hard on NEVER allowing myself to use it more than a few days a week.

I've heard other people use it and then 2 months later they are using it all day every day and I just think those people don't try hard enough to keep the addiction under control.

I think it's within everyone's power to control their drug usage to SOME extent even though some people are more prone to addiction than others.

But Kratom is really a very mild drug and I think in time science WILL show hopefully that it is not very dangerous.

In general it's never really killed anyone other than a few freak accidents.

The reason it is my favorite drug is cause doing it is like getting high without getting "fucked up".


When I am on Kratom NO ONE can tell, not my own family or friends, NO ONE.

And the best way I can put it is that when I take it I just instantly am in a good mood!!

It's just like the "good mood drug" without fucking you up like alcohol or even weed, not fucking you up like harder opiates like Oxy or Hydro or worse, gives you energy but also relaxes you.

Out of any drug I ever used in my life nothing else ever seemed ALMOST like the perfect drug more than Kratom.

Yeah, I would assume if you take a month break and then try some different strains you might be able to get some of the effect back.

Best of luck.

Kratom is my favorite too so sad when my favorite strain (red) stopped working. When I take a white strain it works like a charm as if I had no tolerance at all ...but then red, nothing.


I haven't had any red/Bali in a while so I will test to see if I can feel it. Will get back to you guys with results.

 

[strity1994]

Update: I took 4 times my normal dose. 10g of red/Bali strain.
(Now this is a dose that would knock me on my ass on any other strain.)

But I felt very mild effects. I felt calmer and relaxed.
Which proves that I still have a tolerance. Does anyone know why the other strains work but this one barely does? I would be nodding my ass off if I took half of that much white strain.(5g)

 

[bingey]

Kratom is not safe. It's relatively hepatoxic for such a weak drug m

 

[strity1994]

Kratom is not safe. It's relatively hepatoxic for such a weak drug m

What do u mean?

 

[bingey]

Just utse on kratom liver damage

 

[JahSEEuS]

That's for pretty regular use (see daily), iirc.

 

[Lysis]

op, I found that the buzz will continue if I do it 2-3 times a week and skipping 2 days in between. So, for instance one week I did it tues, fri and sat. This week is a stressful week so I'm breaking my rules and I'm day 3 in from Wed But next week I will go back to my right schedule.

I find that day 3 is when I stop feeling effects. I did it every day for a year (kept it low like no more than 10g each day) and wasn't really feeling anything. As long as you skip a couple days in between at least for me I always feel good on kratom days.

 

[Mynameisphil]

This is pretty much exactly how I have been dosing. Even had a week and a half off. Never went more than 3 days a week, but alas still do not feel the drug anymore . Went from white strains and then tried a green and felt it even less lol