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Regional Pills/MD(M)A Discussion V. I don't understand this chemical waffle

ColtDan said:
The 90 pills were said to contain 400 mg of MDMA, making them five times stronger than "normal," and possibly some of the strongest ever tested.

Bound to be shite MD, theres no need to make them that strong
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Quite a few pills hitting the 300mg mark now. I've watched them creep up over the last 2 years, started off with the 200mg "dutch super pills". Doesn't surprise me that there may be ones hitting 400mg. Kinda says something about todays MDMA, especially to all those claiming the chemical can't have changed :)
 
I think i might have a nibble of a red defcon this weekend. Certainly no tolerance issues with me these days and i know what old skool 90s pills were like.

Will report back next week if i have them.
 
awaken88 said:
Oh man, just did so much reading. But seems I'm settling for the Defqons right now ;-)

From Australia but living in Europe for awhile, I've had the Tesla Model X & Purple TMNT (Which I've not seen mentioned on these pages)

Both have been fantastic, but felt nothing like the pure MD I was getting back in Australia (200mg dose would ruin me and would lose 2-3 hours of my night unable to walk)

I've just not felt the same 'love' here, but I have been mixing with coke first which I didn't do in Aus..

I've always felt the effects vary depending on what environment I'm in, I've imported the dutch stuff before in Aus (Dominos, Heinekens, Gold Bars etc) and they would floor me the same.

Is there a psychological effect happening where you're expecting it to be sub par MDMA because of a new precursor that its actually flattening out your roll?

Just like good coke, around shit people = shit coke & shit coke around good people actually increases my enjoyment of coke.

But been tossing up between Coca Cola, Defqons or more Tesla's (So many batches, some with Model X, CP, Blank/Score on back etc)

But 1/2 of any of them BUCKLES all of my friends & they have a mad time.

PS. Taking too much MD has always made my legs function incorrectly, lowering the dosage decreases euphoria but increases the amphetamine side for me.
PPS. Old school pills (Least the 'good' pills) in Australia used to contain MD+Speed combo, so made people 'feel' that the pill was stronger and had a longer duration.

These ones I'll get home and out light a light!

Anyway, cheers for the late night read - 2 hours just vanished on me then lol.
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Mixing with coke more or less nullifies the MDMA mate, never do that. If you feel the need to at least do the MDMA first and the coke much later on. Didn't they teach you that in Aus :P?

Also, there's always a psychological element to any drug... frame of mind and what not. It's a loop I can't get myself out of nowadays, I over analyse the high whilst being high because I want to have a good time. That being said, really good MDMA or pills override this quickly - because good, emphatic, loved up, mdma removes your anxiety - you just absorb the world, the social constructions we put up vanish, it's bliss (or used to be).

Good MDMA shouldn't really floor you, make you unable to walk etc. But this does seem to be how people judge the drug more and more.
 
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Brenner said:
Where are you from Chojek? I spotted those Pacman after reading the pill report (and noting the purple reaction) but the vendor doesn't ship to Europe, deffo wouldn't mind trying them though. I think they are advertised as 120mg if I remember correctly, which sounds much more like a realistic dose compared to a lot of the dutch ones which are hitting 300mg these days.
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I'm from Oz but I've lived in Europe. I've had local stuff recently which blew the Teslas out of the water.
 
Treacle said:
Red Defqons are a massive yes from me. Did them with two mates, and we all started coming up after about 20 minutes. Very energetic, lovey and euphoric. Slept for three hours, without even meaning to fall asleep, and I've got a proper afterglow today. All three of us had visuals, which was a novelty. I could see glitter all over them, along with other high dose MDMA/MDA-style hallucinations, and was trancing out and chatting random bollocks, just like pills from the good old days. Had one and two thirds, and got a good 7 or 8 hours out of them. I'll be stocking up, because things can't get much better than those. I've read that they turn marquis purple, and I fully believe it. Absolutely amazing pills. They absolutely don't need to be 200mg, because the MDMA in them is top-notch. However, even at that dose, they weren't mongy, just really intense. Definitely on par, or better than Turtles and UFOs. Possibly the best pills I've had since like 2007.
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Told you they were good bud , Infact there that good my stash has gone already lol deffo stocking up now. Really really amazing pills so clean and euphoric did a festival on them all weekend and every one even towards the end took my head off
 
Brenner said:
Quite a few pills hitting the 300mg mark now. I've watched them creep up over the last 2 years, started off with the 200mg "dutch super pills". Doesn't surprise me that there may be ones hitting 400mg. Kinda says something about todays MDMA, especially to all those claiming the chemical can't have changed :)
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Except the actual entire pill itself doesn't actually weigh 400 mg -- and if you look at the dose (200-225 mg)

Break it on the score and you have 140/150 to start and and a 70/75 mg bump left -- how most people like it -- all from 1 pill


Am I the only one that actually looked at the "super pills" and saw how breaking on the score = either a 50% (trapezoidal pills) or 100% (rectangular pills) bump based on an initial dose of right about 110-140 mg???
 
I've joined the Red Defqon club!! I've got a few weeks to go before I try them, but tolerance won't be an issue, as 5 weeks off is a decent break I think.

I'm so happy I've found them. I've been so jealous reading about how awesome these Ninja Turtles and UFO's were, and these are supposedly even better!! I'm so happy right now. This is why I keep reading every single post here. This information has been invaluable.

Best looking press I've seen too. I can't believe how glossy they are. Proper professional job, almost made out of love for the craft.
 
Ok so a big group of us tried the Red Defqons sourced from a friend who lives in Amsterdam and had them at a festival out there, I started with half and to me they were seened quite speedy, not really any empathy but they did hit me like a rocket, almost too strong tbh. I said a few times that I felt like I was plugged into a mains supply, started to come down after around 4 hours and topped up with another 3rd, a slight bit of confusion and felt a bit on edge, it didn't help that when the festival ended there was a huge crush to get out, Tried them again the following night and only had a 3rd and enjoyed them more this time.
 
Grassman said:
Has anyone done a whole red defqon? I am tempted to start with a whole one then top up with halves
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Yeah my mate did, he's a seasoned sesh head, he's a legend and when he was telling me I said... You're fucking mental cha but I think that's why we get on so well and here's what he said about it, ain't no report by any means...

Hahaha i am cha fucking eyes where shaking like fuck! Was walking round with one shoe on and a flip flop =D
 
foolsgold25 said:
Ok so a big group of us tried the Red Defqons sourced from a friend who lives in Amsterdam and had them at a festival out there, I started with half and to me they were seened quite speedy, not really any empathy but they did hit me like a rocket, almost too strong tbh. I said a few times that I felt like I was plugged into a mains supply, started to come down after around 4 hours and topped up with another 3rd, a slight bit of confusion and felt a bit on edge, it didn't help that when the festival ended there was a huge crush to get out, Tried them again the following night and only had a 3rd and enjoyed them more this time.
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What other pills have you taken? I'm one of those that prefers the pills people refer to as speedy. They feel so much better when they give you that out of control euphoria, maniac craziness and all the lovey dovey feelings that compel you to approach anyone that even slightly glances at you, so you can share your appreciation for them and life lol.
 
Small_town_casual said:
I've always found checkpoints to be spot on, the red supremes were good the first run, duno about second then had snapchats which were also good and a mate had teslas ad said bang on... Noticed some Starbucks, Oreos and teslas ain't the best press but the quality of the product is better, maybe it's something in the synth that they do to get that gloss finish and makes them mongier, just a thought I'm probably wrong.

On a separate note had half a SIM card and defqon Sunday then nothing till about 10pm Monday and it was the blue and pink red bull so snapped it in half then broke them into quarters so there were 2 blue quarters and 2 pinks quarters and we each had one and agreed they were spot on and was only 1/4 a pill!!

Been offered yellowy/orange coloured Micky mouses, heard they're good, anyone know about them?
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Most of my Orange Teslas are crumbling too, turning to dust pretty much. Dosing them is going to be real hard. They're spot on though, I've never felt monged out by them.
 
Yes mate every one I've had has been whole, but have been using MD / pills about every other weekend for about 2 month leading up to trying them so abit of a tolerance but I'd say do it!
 
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