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Benzos No effects from Xanax?

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So I've had anxiety for quite some time now an have used celexa N others in the past. Most SSRI type medicines drained my energy. So my doc gave me Xanax to take on a as needed basis. First he gave me .5mg which I took an felt nothing. So when I went back I got 1mg again took an nothing. It might help my anxiety slightly but not much. I also decided to try it recreational(as in take it when I'm not having anxiety) to see if I could feel any effects then. So took, still nothing. I'm a fairly big guy. Should I try upping my dose or is Xanax not for me? Not sure it matters but these are not generics there brand name Xanax. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
 
You could try upping your dose a little, or maybe try a different benzo.

But imo benzos only work short term and make your anxiety worse in the long run so my advice would be to stay away from benzos and try something else. What about CBT or maybe an antihistamine, like hydroxyzine, for bad panic attacks?
 
You can also microdose psychedelics. They are functionally specific for the 5-HT2A-mGluR2 receptor complex were they activate the intracellular PLA2 cascade. The result is an increased concentration of arachidonic acid which gives a signal to the neuron to desensitize and internalize 5-HT2A receptors.

I tried this last week and it is WAY more effective for depression and anxiety then benzo's or antihistamines.
 
Memantine said:
You can also microdose psychedelics. They are functionally specific for the 5-HT2A-mGluR2 receptor complex were they activate the intracellular PLA2 cascade. The result is an increased concentration of arachidonic acid which gives a signal to the neuron to desensitize and internalize 5-HT2A receptors.

I tried this last week and it is WAY more effective for depression and anxiety then benzo's or antihistamines.
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That's really interesting, do you think that micro dosing peyote cactus would be beneficial too?
I'd love to read more about your experience and about the pharmacology behind it :)
 
Yes I expect this to work for peyote aswell because it has cross tolerance with LSD and Psilocybin.

My experience:
The first day: I feel jittery and uncomfortable
The second day: I still feel jittery but I can sense that I have less negative thoughts.
The third day: I basicly feel very great. I am very sociable and I have less negative thoughts and anxiety :)
 
Memantine said:
You can also microdose psychedelics. They are functionally specific for the 5-HT2A-mGluR2 receptor complex were they activate the intracellular PLA2 cascade. The result is an increased concentration of arachidonic acid which gives a signal to the neuron to desensitize and internalize 5-HT2A receptors.

I tried this last week and it is WAY more effective for depression and anxiety then benzo's or antihistamines.
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For right now I have to stick to things I can get prescriptions for. That will change in the future, an def wouldn't mind trying something like that.
 
with no tolerance, .5mg should stop a panic attack and even help with general anxiety, and 1mg is definitely enough. Benzodiazepines aren't really euphoric on there own, their usually used recreationally by people on suboxone or methadone, or some other opiate, but generally by people on ORT because the combined effects of the two CNS depressants creates a unique high of its own (which is very dangerous, obviously). I wouldn't take anymore than 2mg without any tolerance or prior experience with benzodiazepines, not because it's necessarily dangerous in terms of OD (benzo's alone without being combined with another CNS depressant are actually pretty safe), but because you'll likely black out and do something stupid.
 
Benzodiazepines for recreational use.... will never understand what that's supposed to be like let alone why those of us suffering with debilitating anxiety would ever risk messing with the one medication that can calm us down when we really need it... Recreational benzo use is stupid period. Recreational benzo use while you have clinical anxiety, panic, PTSD, etc related disorders, well, it's hard to describe just how self-defeating, moronic, and terrible idea is, but if you feel like your life like seriously would actually honestly need that kind of medication now for your psych issues, you would know better instinctively.

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tricomb said:
Benzodiazepines for recreational use.... will never understand what that's supposed to be like let alone why those of us suffering with debilitating anxiety would ever risk messing with the one medication that can calm us down when we really need it... Recreational benzo use is stupid period. Recreational benzo use while you have clinical anxiety, panic, PTSD, etc related disorders, well, it's hard to describe just how self-defeating, moronic, and terrible idea is, but if you feel like your life like seriously would actually honestly need that kind of medication now for your psych issues, you would know better instinctively.

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Maybe be you didn't read my post? I take Xanax for anxiety an anxiety only. As stated in the orginal post it was tooken once without having my panic attacks to see if it was actually doing anything to me an the anxiety/panic attack was just covering it up. I'm a new member here but why do people respond without reading the question.
 
Znegative said:
with no tolerance, .5mg should stop a panic attack and even help with general anxiety, and 1mg is definitely enough. Benzodiazepines aren't really euphoric on there own, their usually used recreationally by people on suboxone or methadone, or some other opiate, but generally by people on ORT because the combined effects of the two CNS depressants creates a unique high of its own (which is very dangerous, obviously). I wouldn't take anymore than 2mg without any tolerance or prior experience with benzodiazepines, not because it's necessarily dangerous in terms of OD (benzo's alone without being combined with another CNS depressant are actually pretty safe), but because you'll likely black out and do something stupid.
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Thanks for for the response. I'm not really looking for euphoria, just want to be able to stop my anxiety when it gets so bad I can't handle it. As much as I have read up 1mg is a large dose an essentially should be stopping the attacks. So trying to figure out if I should safely try to raise my doseage even higher. As I really want my anxiety to stop but I would rather not black out trying to stop it
 
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Wtf?
 
Try another benzo. Lorazepam (less sedating, too). But if you are uptight when anxious, you will maybe need some more sedating like Diazepam or Bromazepam?!

You could also try Pregabaline, it could even makes you euphoric depending to dosage.
 
tricomb said:
Benzodiazepines for recreational use.... will never understand what that's supposed to be like let alone why those of us suffering with debilitating anxiety would ever risk messing with the one medication that can calm us down when we really need it... Recreational benzo use is stupid period. Recreational benzo use while you have clinical anxiety, panic, PTSD, etc related disorders, well, it's hard to describe just how self-defeating, moronic, and terrible idea is, but if you feel like your life like seriously would actually honestly need that kind of medication now for your psych issues, you would know better instinctively.

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I dunno, suffering from crippling anxiety was precisely what lured me into benzo addiction.

As for using them recreationally - yeah, the "I wanna get as fucked up as possible"-approach puts you on the fast track towards the hell that is benzo addiction; on the other hand, as someone who doesn't find ethanol recreational at all, a combo of Ritalin, Oxazepam and Pregabalin (in non-excessive doses, mind you!) is my social drug of choice.

P.S: While the rapid taper I had to go through to get my benzo dose down to medicinal levels was unpleasant as hell, it actually felt cathartic in the end when I realized I fucking deserved it for the Grade A douchebaggery I commited while benzo'd out of my mind. So even if you don't give a shit about yourself, you should stay the hell away from benzo abuse because of all the really, really stupid shit you're inevitably going to say and do to your friends.
 
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Hodor said:
I dunno, suffering from crippling anxiety was precisely what lured me into benzo addiction.

As for using them recreationally - yeah, the "I wanna get as fucked up as possible"-approach puts you on the fast track towards the hell that is benzo addiction; on the other hand, as someone who doesn't find ethanol recreational at all, a combo of Ritalin, Oxazepam and Pregabalin (in non-excessive doses, mind you!) is my social drug of choice.

P.S: While the rapid taper I had to go through to get my benzo dose down to medicinal levels was unpleasant as hell, it actually felt cathartic in the end when I realized I fucking deserved it for the Grade A douchebaggery I commited while benzo'd out of my mind. So even if you don't give a shit about yourself, you should stay the hell away from benzo abuse because of all the really, really stupid shit you're inevitably going to say and do to your friends.
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Its weird, I was just telling my wife. "I dont get why people abuse these, they do nothing to me". I guess I just haven't experienced what causes people to get addicted to them, due to my size an too small of dosage, thats only thing I can figure. Now opiates on the other hand, If I take one of those I can see how dangerous that could be for addiction. I have severe knee pain an I limit my self to 2 a week (mainly when i have to watch my son for 36hrs straight). Way off topic but tried kratom to replace my oxy's but man it feels like xanax. Nothing at all!
 
Before raising your dose, I would try it out with 1mg again, and give it an hour and then see how you're feeling, if your anxiety has decreased. I know you're not looking for euphoria, but I think you have the idea that because you don't feel any noticeable side effects, it is not working effectively as an anxiolytic. I would not recommend lorazepam, first of all, it's weaker, and it takes a hell of a lot longer to kick in. Diazepam, on the other hand might be a better choice, it's got a quick onset of action, and very good anxiolytic properties IMO, along with a long half life, so it's effects aren't over as soon as they kick in like with alprazolam.
 
one thing about xanax is your tolerance may rise quickly; I was scripted 1MG for my anxiety due to my medical condition. I have an actual medical problem that has always bothered me in ways and my Dr. scripted 1MG xanax for those reasons; since then, I have found myself addicted to xanax and the 1MG no longer doing the trick but yet I am still scripted only 1MG; so I worry come those days when I "run out". the last thing I want is to be addicted to benzos which I feel I am at this point because I have taken at least .5/MG/day for the last 40 days or so.
 
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