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Floyd Mayweather Jr Vs. Manny Pacquiao May 3rd

I think boxing could do a lot for itself by actually penalizing fighters for clinching repeatedly. Just watch the Thurman v. Guerrero fight from last week to see how great boxing could be without constant clinching.

PPV #'s for UFC have been in the decline since around 2010 as well, it seems like combat sports are falling by the wayside altogether.


Sumo will always be #1 in my book anyways.
I think UFC is over saturated right now. I'm not buying PPV when I know I'll be able to see the fight on cable a week or 2 later but I am a casual fan at best.
 
This will be the biggest boxing fight ever to happen in history.
not really.
Around 400million+ is going to be split 60/40 between them in Floyd's favor. it is most likely going to be a lot more than that 4hundi
more exaggeration. reports say $200M to $300M.

still, stupid money...

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Kinda thinking Floyd will need a TKO over pacman in order to win. If it goes distance Pac should have the greater stats of everything, depends if he lands anything. Although still shouldn't matter as long as he gets hard shots in,

so i think pac by decision or Floyd by KO
 
I hope Mayweather gets beat, I can't stand that guy. I think with his style of fighting he will get beat. A slugger like Pacman especially being a southpaw should cause problems for Floyd. Plus, Floyd relies on speed way too much, and he isn't getting any younger. Who am I kidding though, Floyd will probably destroy him, and continue to be a borderline retard with a billion dollars
 
Shit i live in vegas so this is gonna be good i think itll be mayweathers first loss but my friend is coming from my hometown(trenton nj ) and is betting 2gs on mayweather so idk
 
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mayweather will win, and he would have won 5 years ago

probably a split decision, but he's just too good evading punches and judges seem to get boners over punches landed

pacquiao, yeah great guy though.

isnt he like a fucking singer or something?

yeah give me mayweather

lol, I didnt get to watch the fight but it seemed like this was too obvious a conclusion

mayweather isnt the greatest of all time, he just didnt lose to anyone.

decisions are lame in boxing tbh, id say just go until someone collapses

an almost half a billion enterprise comes down to the opinion of 3 people?

laaame
 
Such a boring fight. God I hate Mayweather. It's laughable when he compares himself to Ali. The dude is a 150 lbs Welterweight that's undefeated because he's hidden in his own weight class and has refused to move up a class to fight other champions(Manny Pacquiao has moved in weight class 6 times to fight other class's champions).

It's telling about the state of boxing today for a couple Welterweights to be the most popular boxers in the sport, or for anyone to even consider them "the greatest fighter ever." 20 years ago nobody could even NAME one welterweight fighter, because they didn't matter. The Tysons, Joe Fraizers, Alis, and George Foremans of the world will always be on a level far above punks like Mayweather. George Foreman has 76 profession wins with 68 of them coming by knockout, not running around the ring playing defense. Boxing used to be FUN to watch. Now it's lame as hell.
 
Now it comes out that Pac has a torn up right shoulder that he failed to tell anyone about. These guys fleeced everyone.
 
UFC is going in the same direction having all these 150lb 5'6 fighters running around... lol, so boring to watch
 
Now it comes out that Pac has a torn up right shoulder that he failed to tell anyone about. These guys fleeced everyone.

Yes, and a lawsuit was opened. I believe the Nevada Gaming Commission is involved now also, bets placed on Manny were placed under the assumption that we was in fine health. I believe Manny even signed off on a specific question about shoulder injuries, claiming he had none. Will be interesting to see where this goes.

I really wanted Manny to win just because I can't stand Mayweather's arrogance and cockiness, ah well.
 
A bit before the fight I mentioned that people should be concerned with how watchable it will be and that anyone besides boxing geeks and major Floyd fans will not enjoy the fight.

And what happened? Exactly what Floyd has done his whole boxing career. He has always boxed like that -philly shell/shoulder roll/black code. Most of his effort is spent on defense and accurate counter punches. And he will continue to win until he fights a smarter and faster fighter. He has always been "boring." Hell, he changed his persona early on from pretty boy to money, because he knew that would be the only way he could draw a crowd. More people will pay HOPING to see him lose than to actually be entertained by his boxing style.


Having said that, he belongs near the top of the best ever. Other than Manny, and even arguably with Manny, he never dodged fighters. He's fought the best fighters -Marquez, Cotto, De La Hoya, Alvarez, etc.

I gave him 10 rounds vs 2 for Manny. I don't know what the fuck Manny was doing. The game plan was to be the aggressor and come in from awkward angles. He threw something like 430 punches, less than even Floyd. He normally averages 600-800 punches a match! He only landed 18 jabs.


Maybe he was injured, and if so he should have disclosed it on the form before the fight, which Floyd and his people would not have seen so it's not like they would have had an advantage. It all makes no fucking sense, other than the obviously better boxer winning the fight.
 
*He fought the best Welterweight fighters. If he wants to be called the best Welterweight fighter ever that's fine by me. But he's not even in the same class(literally and figuratively) as the heavyweight greats like Ali, Tyson, and Foreman.
 
And they should be named the best heavyweight boxers if we only judge them in their weight class.

He's fought and won belts at different divisions. He's dominated those divisions, arguably, more than other boxers have in the sport. And he's done it with taking little punishment. Maybe less than any world class fighter has.


#1 of all time, I don't know. I think there are too many variables that can't be ranked objectively in boxing to have such a definitive list. I mean, we're not talking about baseball here.
 
I guess what I mean to say is that when all of your boxing titles came from the 112 lb. to 154 lb. weight classes you should be one of the early fights of the night, not the main event.

Wladimir Klitschko is 64-3 with 54 wins by knockout and currently holds 4 of the 5 major World Heavyweight championship belts. He's the second longest reigning Heavyweight Champion in history and has successfully defended his titles more than any other boxer besides Joe Lewis, 4 ahead of Mohammed Ali. Next April he will have been Heavyweight Champion of the World for the past 10 years. His last loss was in April of 2004, 19 fights ago.

That's a lot more impressive to me than a dude literally half his size beating up 48 other guys just as small. I weight 145 lbs. when I was a freshman in high school.
 
lol thats a different type of 145 but here's the last match Floyd lost if anyone was wondering

 
I guess what I mean to say is that when all of your boxing titles came from the 112 lb. to 154 lb. weight classes you should be one of the early fights of the night, not the main event.

Wladimir Klitschko is 64-3 with 54 wins by knockout and currently holds 4 of the 5 major World Heavyweight championship belts. He's the second longest reigning Heavyweight Champion in history and has successfully defended his titles more than any other boxer besides Joe Lewis, 4 ahead of Mohammed Ali. Next April he will have been Heavyweight Champion of the World for the past 10 years. His last loss was in April of 2004, 19 fights ago.

That's a lot more impressive to me than a dude literally half his size beating up 48 other guys just as small. I weight 145 lbs. when I was a freshman in high school.
I don't think heavyweights are more impressive at all. Sure, they are stronger, but as far as boxing skill, the lower divisions contain heaps more and are more competitive. By nature of their size, heavyweights are slower, have much lower punch outputs, less movement, more clinching, and basically can knock each other out with any power punch. Their division also has little talent compared to previous decades when it was the top division in the sport.

Wladimir is a physical specimen, he's huge and ripped, but he's fighting at a time when there aren't many good boxers at his weight class. (He also has stuck to generally only fighting in Germany.) And I believe he would lose if there were. He never fought a Lennox Lewis, a Holyfield, hell even a Tyson. Look at his opponent record. I saw his last fight with Jennings(first in the US in some time), and it wasn't anything to marvel at. He still has a suspect chin, which he changed his style around after he lost with KO's earlier in his career. There are some promising opponents for him, Deontay Wilder and Tyson Fury specifically. Also, his retired brother was considered a better boxer.

I get the attraction to the heavyweights, I think they're a natural draw -the biggest strongest guys fighting each other. But I think if you watched a bunch of other fighters at the lower levels you'd end up forgetting about heavyweights soon enough.

Two of the most exciting to watch, and I don't mean from a boxing nerd perspective, who hit like sledgehammers and are also technically good, are Golovkin and Kovalev.
Golovkin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnfUExzL79g
Kovalev: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22owaSnsb54

Hopefully they'll blow up in popularity beyond boxing nerds and casual fans. From what's out there, they're both good likable guys outside of the ring and Golovkin even has the charisma to be a star.


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Shim, Mayweather got robbed in that fight. Atlanta olympics iirc. He turned pro right after it.

From the other side, there was a good article in the NYT about Todorov's life since that fight.
 
Jesus, what fight between Alvarez and Kirkland. And I mean fight. It was on tonight after the May-Pac replay.

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