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0bsidian

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Hi guys. im a newbie to this forum and need some urgent assistance.

I know this might sound stupid but I really need some help...a mate of mine gave me some pills to help me "bulk up" as I weighed 55kg, only to realise a few months later that it was Dianabol.

I was told its a testo-booster and because I had seen great results on it, I continued using usn-testo boosters and anabolic stacks for a period of a year or two. I was even advised at a supplement store to take some pills (another pro-hormone that contained 2a,17a-dimethyl-5a-androst-3-one-17b-ol) to get buff as I was obsessed with wanting to get bigger.

I now find myself with a non-existent sex drive, testosterone, LH and FSH.

can someone please advise me on what to do.

I researched online and took a 3 month supply of clomid to try and kick start the natural production of T - it seemed to work great while on it but once I stopped thinking all was good, I have noticed there has been no change at all.

I await your valued advices

Best Regards
0bsidian
 
Get some blood work done my man. After being on for a long time it will take a long time to recover. If at worst you don't recover, blood work permitting, opt for trt either through doctors or how some of us do it by self prescribed route
 
Thanks Seratonin101.

I was was also contemplating Nolvadex and clomid together for a while to see how that might work. I'll get some bloodwork done asap and will post the info here as well. What blood tests should i do?

thanks again bro.

Best regards
 
This really isn't a question we should be answering without you getting your bloods done and getting advice from a doctor.
A pct would be very wise indeed but I reccomend bloods first
 
0bsidian said:
Thanks Seratonin101.

I was was also contemplating Nolvadex and clomid together for a while to see how that might work. I'll get some bloodwork done asap and will post the info here as well. What blood tests should i do?

thanks again bro.

Best regards
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Free test, total test, FSH, LH, E2.....
 
0bsidian said:
Hi guys. im a newbie to this forum and need some urgent assistance.

I know this might sound stupid but I really need some help...a mate of mine gave me some pills to help me "bulk up" as I weighed 55kg, only to realise a few months later that it was Dianabol.

I was told its a testo-booster and because I had seen great results on it, I continued using usn-testo boosters and anabolic stacks for a period of a year or two. I was even advised at a supplement store to take some pills (another pro-hormone that contained 2a,17a-dimethyl-5a-androst-3-one-17b-ol) to get buff as I was obsessed with wanting to get bigger.

I now find myself with a non-existent sex drive, testosterone, LH and FSH.

can someone please advise me on what to do.

I researched online and took a 3 month supply of clomid to try and kick start the natural production of T - it seemed to work great while on it but once I stopped thinking all was good, I have noticed there has been no change at all.

I await your valued advices

Best Regards
0bsidian
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How much clomid and for how long (I know you said 3 months supply).. did you lower the dose, or stay on the same amount.. did you include anything else whilst on clomid therapy.?

How long since you finished Clomid..?
 
50mg per day for 20days and 10 days off repeated for 3 months. Ive Been off the clomid for about 3 months now, and no...i only used clomid for that period nothing else.

Im stressing out that i may have caused permanent damage as i didnt follow a PCT immediately after taking them roids/PHs. Honestly, i wasnt aware of what i was taking. As foolish and stupid as it sounds, i trusted the ppl around me.
 
0bsidian said:
50mg per day for 20days and 10 days off repeated for 3 months. Ive Been off the clomid for about 3 months now, and no...i only used clomid for that period nothing else.

Im stressing out that i may have caused permanent damage as i didnt follow a PCT immediately after taking them roids/PHs. Honestly, i wasnt aware of what i was taking. As foolish and stupid as it sounds, i trusted the ppl around me.
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Strange protocol, 20-on 10-off..?

Without blood test results its difficult to comment further..!!
 
Hi Daz

the 20-10 split was seen on some bodybuilding forum.

ill let you guys know the test results as soon as i get them.

thanks for the responses, much appreciated.

regards
0bsidian
 
0bsidian said:
Hi Daz

the 20-10 split was seen on some bodybuilding forum.

ill let you guys know the test results as soon as i get them.

thanks for the responses, much appreciated.

regards
0bsidian
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You've been given some bad information... Clomid does more then act as an anti-estrogen in certain tissues. In the pituitary it acts as an estrogen, sensitizing pituitary cells to the actions of gonadotropin-releasing hormone (GnRH). This stimulates release of FSH & LH. intermittent use might not get the best response from clomid...

Out of interest, what symptoms make you now believe Your PCT wasn't effective..?

I now find myself with a non-existent sex drive, testosterone, LH and FSH
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Did you have blood tests previously..?
 
Unless he's had bloods the only real way to tell would be limp dick most likely? How do you know obsidian
 
Go ahead get the privatemedlabs u can use coupun codd so its cheaper, see where ur natty test is at, get some good insurance and get on trt if u cant restart ur hpta with a nolva clomid pct.
 
Should've prefaced that with IMO/IME. Highly recommended by many....besides myself. What are your reasons for saying hcg is not great?
 
pely2014998 said:
HCG is a great start. Bloods first though.
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Old-School thinking... hCG is a LH mimicking agent, its excellent for inducing spermatogenesis along with HMG, but tends to stop upon cessation of treatment... hCG leaves GnRH suppressed, which in not what you want when trying to re-start the bodys HPTA.....
 
pely2014998 said:
Should've prefaced that with IMO/IME. Highly recommended by many....besides myself. What are your reasons for saying hcg is not great?
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Genetic Freak said:
Old-School thinking... hCG is a LH mimicking agent, its excellent for inducing spermatogenesis along with HMG, but tends to stop upon cessation of treatment... hCG leaves GnRH suppressed, which in not what you want when trying to re-start the bodys HPTA.....
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Answered for me lol
 
When used correctly I have had excellent recovery results. It is STILL ("old school"or not) used by tons of doctors to elevate natural test production. I'm not trying to get in a pissing contest with anyone at all. Just trying to help. If we all had $$$ for blood tests, ins, Dr advising us we wouldn't be asking for advice on a forum.
 
HCG and Clomid are best, IMO, for recovery. Must be dosed and timed correctly, like anything else. Hope things work out for you bro.
 
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