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Idznak

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I have 300mg MDMA that I am planning on taking tomorrow night or the night after.
I have been told that taking all 300 at once is probably a waste and there will be no additional positive effects, just an enhancement on the negatives.

So I was wondering, how do I split my redosing?
Should I redose once or twice, how far apart should they be, and what doses should I take each time?
 
Hi Idznak, welcome to bluelight!

That varies between people. It depends on how big your tolerance is, what doses you usually take, what effect you are looking for...

Keep in mind that a redose mostly serves to extend the roll and not amplify it by much. It also increases the physical side-effects and makes for a harsher comedown

What I always do if I redose is to drop 1/2 of my initial dose around the +1:30h mark, +2:00h at the latest. But that's what I do, it could be different for you. I would also only do one redose, even if that leaves you with some MDMA left over. 300mg is a big dose for a single roll...
 
We will need way more info about you. Size, weight, experience etc.

My 2 cents as a long time user: 300mg is waaaay too much. If half of that is not enough for you to have an awesome roll, than you overdid it and you need a really long break. And I am absolutely no fan of redosing. It wont give you back the full effect and it multiplys the negative side effects and risk of damage. I usually start with 2/3 of my total dosage and take the rest after 30-60 Minutes. This way you soften the comeup and prolong the effects. And when it´s over, I just go home.
 
I've only had one experience with MDMA. I did 100mg and redosed another 100 90 minutes later.
If I did 100 then redosed 150 would it be a stronger roll than doing 150 and redosing 100? I'm looking to get a heavy experience which I can extend rather than the longest roll I can get.
If 300 is too much for a single night then I'm happy to save some.
 
150mg followed by 100mg will produce a stronger roll than 100mg followed by 150mg. Your initial dose determines the intensity of your roll for the most part, added doses only extend the roll but not increase intensity by much.

However if you are still relatively new to MDMA these doses are way too high. For my first few times I only needed a single dose of about 120mg to experience the full effects. I would not do the entire 300mg, if it is high quality this will leave you very messy and such high doses will quickly lead to tolerance, not to mention the health related issues this brings with it.

I would go with 120-140mg inital dose and if you really want to redose, do around 70-80mg. But keep in mind it will mostly extend, not amplify the roll. If it is high quality product 140mg should already produce a pretty intense experience and it would surprise me should you feel inclined to redose
 
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I wasn't expecting a redose to intensify it, I've already read enough that it just prolongs it, which is what I'm looking for. The 200mg I had on my first experience was very satisfying. I'll take your advice and do 120-140/70-80. I believe I have 90% pure crystal, so it should be easily enough. I'll save my other 100mg for another time to combine with a psych.

Thanks for the information :)
 
One more thing: if you did not test your product it would be a very good idea to look into buying a testkit, that way you can be sure you are ingesting MDMA and not something else.
Anyways you are welcome :D Have fun!
 
1.5 mg/kg followed by 0.5 mg/kg 2-3 hours later. The initial dose can range from 1-2 mg/kg based on sensitivity although I find going over 1.5 mg/kg to cause side effects and not require a redose as it becomes too much with the initial dose.
 
I use quite often, maybe 10 times a year. Initially 80-90mg was enough. But soon I need 100mg...and now I need 130-150mg for a decent effect. And tbh I don't get that flood of feel good massage of the brain and warmth until I'm about 230-250mg now.

Anyway, as a regular user, I do as follows :

130-150mg 1st dose
100mg - 2nd dose
100mg - 3rd dose (if I have to, it's probably the most 'mong-faced' dose and less euphoric, end up falling asleep eventually, I try to avoid this dose)

As an occasional user I did :

100mg - 1st dose
60mg - 2nd dose
 
i typically would take:
1.5mg/kg as initial dose (around 110mg, orally)
0.8mg/kg (around 60mg, orally) redose after 1:30h
0.4mg/kg (around 30mg but not measured exactly, nasally) as soon as the first signs of coming down start to appear


with that schedule i can keep the roll going for more than 5 hours. of course every redose increases crazyness and confusion a bit, but i enjoy that side of the mdma experience too and 5 hours is better than 3 hours. halving the dose every time and not redosing more than twice serves to keep the added side effects at a minimum and imho is a good compromise. taking the last dose nasally brings you back up quickly (dosing orally at that point in time wouldn't work) and lasts for a shorter amount of time, thus making the comedown more pleasant (having a lot of mdma in your body while coming down isn't fun. i guess the guys on here who have unsuccessfully tried to extend the experience by redosing orally when the comedown had already started would agree with me).

the better harm reduction answer would be to stick with at most one redose, but for me as a very occasional user the extra hour each redose adds is totally worth it.
 
IMHO 100 mg to start off with and 80 mg an hour later. Should be enough for most.
 
What i personally would do with 300mg is 100mg, then another 100mg just 20 minutes after first dose and that will get me rollin hard with an easier come up rather than just dropping 200mg.. And then take the last 100mg about 2 hours later to prolong the high a bit :)
 
Cdilly93 said:
What i personally would do with 300mg is 100mg, then another 100mg just 20 minutes after first dose and that will get me rollin hard with an easier come up rather than just dropping 200mg.. And then take the last 100mg about 2 hours later to prolong the high a bit :)
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Ha, that's interesting. I know if I drop 200mg I will be gaga....100mg then 100mg 20mins later...do you ever feel sick or you've had too much doing that? And do you get lots of dopamine/mong faced/messy doing it that way?
 
Just because you have it doesn't mean you need to use it all..... Anything higher than 150 mg is ridiculously high with 150 even being excessive for most

Edit: I'll add with 90 mg followed by 30 mg two hours later at least the roll can last a good 6-12 hours without any physical side effects while eyes stay dialated slightly for a good twenty hours. This is no tolerance for 60 kg as my weight.
 
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120 + 60 a few hours later with a cheeky energy drink works wonders for me for about 6-7 hours.
 
mark881 said:
Ha, that's interesting. I know if I drop 200mg I will be gaga....100mg then 100mg 20mins later...do you ever feel sick or you've had too much doing that? And do you get lots of dopamine/mong faced/messy doing it that way?
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I just did that same exact dosing last night at a rave, omg so much fun haha.. But yea i never really feel sick, the only time ive gotten sick from mdma was when i continually popped like 7, 100mg capsules over a period of 6 hours, was not fun! Haha. But doing the 200mg so close to each other fucks me up good, but thats the only way i can get face melted from lightshows and shit, and it does kind of floor me, but i've noticed having even like half a beer will give me an energy boost to get up and dance!
 
Man 120-150 mgs just sounds really weak to me. Especially for a "full" roll. I roll once every 1-3 months (just depends) and I almost always start off with 150-200 mgs and redose another 150-200 mgs like an hour and a half later. But, I do like to be floored out lol. Unless I'm dosing MDA I try and start that off around 120 mgs, last time i tried 140 mgs I puked, lol.
 
peanut 801 said:
Man 120-150 mgs just sounds really weak to me. Especially for a "full" roll. I roll once every 1-3 months (just depends) and I almost always start off with 150-200 mgs and redose another 150-200 mgs like an hour and a half later. But, I do like to be floored out lol. Unless I'm dosing MDA I try and start that off around 120 mgs, last time i tried 140 mgs I puked, lol.
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you're either an extreme hardhead or are getting impure stuff (nearly all of us do, but purity varies a lot). the last batch i had was about 70% mdma, 30% filler, so for 110mg mdma i'd take 160mg "mdma crystals". be careful with your doses if you get a new batch; it might be of better quality.
 
It's over dudes, he asked it on the first, was going to take it on the second, he should report back now.
 
Black said:
you're either an extreme hardhead or are getting impure stuff (nearly all of us do, but purity varies a lot). the last batch i had was about 70% mdma, 30% filler, so for 110mg mdma i'd take 160mg "mdma crystals". be careful with your doses if you get a new batch; it might be of better quality.
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Nope, I get top quality goods. Only presses and crystal I've eaten lately have been imports. Just like to be faced as fuck. 300-400 mgs is a good night for me, just remember we all have different tolerances, were different sizes, and have different levels of experience. And I for one have TONS of experience. I'm not recommending this kind of dosing, just merely stating 150 mgs in a night sounds weak to me, that's all.
 
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