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What supernatural / alternative beliefs do you have and why?

What alternative beliefs do you have?

  • God (but none of the ones interpreted in mainstream religion)

    Votes: 8 20.5%
  • God (as a creator, a programmer of the universe)

    Votes: 7 17.9%
  • God (other)

    Votes: 13 33.3%
  • Ghosts

    Votes: 9 23.1%
  • Psychic Abilities

    Votes: 13 33.3%
  • Life after death

    Votes: 10 25.6%
  • Zodiac signs

    Votes: 7 17.9%
  • Karma

    Votes: 16 41.0%
  • Homeopathy

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • I have no alternative / supernatural beliefs

    Votes: 12 30.8%

  • Total voters
    39
KARMA
Bad things happen and you attribute them to immoral choices, naturally, and so you start believing there is a force in ature that wills this to happen. When it does not seem to work, this simply means karma is not at work today. I think it is fallacy but something is compelling about it. The danger is that it is ethnocentric
 
Ah. I find this conception of karma rather easy to dismiss, though I find interpretations of karma as representing radically intensive and extensive causal entanglement rather compelling.

ebola
 
Ah. I find this conception of karma rather easy to dismiss, though I find interpretations of karma as representing radically intensive and extensive causal entanglement rather compelling.

ebola
I don't understand what you mean. Try dismissing it first, it might help me understand what your saying.

It sounds to me like you are wording the basic meaning of Karma in some obtuse way and agreeing with yourself.
 
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Any of you believe in omens?
I was out in the woods sitting on a bench when I turned around and saw a black cat sitting about 50 meters away across from my position staring right at me.
I thought this was a dog at first and thought to myself 'who's this irresponsible? to let a dog off his leash', but then I saw the tail and realised it was a cat.
It was sitting there watching me for about 5 minutes before it walked away and out of sight.
Seeing a black cat is bad luck right? This makes me more wary of everything.

Or perhaps it's a good omen? Maybe this little guy was trying to lead me over to a lottery ticket that had been dropped or something... who knows.
Discuss.
 
I don't understand what you mean. Rei dismissing it first, it might help me understand what your saying.

It sounds to me like you are wording the basic meaning of Karma in some obtuse way and agreeing with yourself.

I wasn't aware there was a fixed definition of karma. The vedic translations indicate there are literally hundreds of interpretations, from the mundane to the esoterically cosmic.

Personally, the definitions which resonate the most for me are: 1) cause and effect, whether individually, socially, or cosmically; 2) the work one is here to do. i.e. it's your karma to be a healer vs. an engineer, lawyer, etc.

I believe in past lives but I'm skeptical that karma applies to that.
 
I am not saying there is a fixed definition. I was questioning someone else who said that karma dissipates as soon as the bullets start flying.

Ebola apparently asked me what my definition of karma is so I copy and pasted my opinion of what it means, from earlier in this thread.

Now ebola has said that my interpretation was easily dismissed, floor is open to explain how, and said a compelling meaning of karma was "radically intensive and extensive causal entanglement", which sounds to me like incoherent nonsense.
 
It sounds to me like you are wording the basic meaning of Karma in some obtuse way and agreeing with yourself.

I essentially am. I've posted this elsewhere, but the idea, I think, is that the universe functions as a systemic whole, whereby one's actions bear an effect on the universe at large (or maybe just the objects within a given light-cone of space-time), 'reverberating' through it, and thus coming back to one's self, but in a wholly unpredictable way. In this way, "what goes around comes around". I find this case more plausible than some de facto system of 'moral accounting', whereby if one does bad things, bad things will happen to him or her.

ebola
 
God did programmed the earth a little. He made it so, for special ppl to have a need of real life person personalities and use them as ghosts.. Mostly female. God did programmed earth but not the universe. There is only one ruler of the universe "space" and that are alien ppl. Alien control Space. The Supernatural, Full 100% Reptile DNA that can show r espect to alien, extraterrestrial beings.. That are the ones controlling Space. You better try to activate your alien in and create a new planet for yourself alone. Just be sure that you are a Hybrid-being and have some strong Mind Control Slaves to protect you, Have a good time and enjoy life.

Are you a native English speaker?

Earth is in space.
 
Almost certain I was a duck in one of my past lives.

Not only were Duck Tales, Darkwing Duck, and Howard the Duck some of my favorite childhood shows, also, whenever I go near ducks they crowd around me.
 
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I believe in belief. In all things green and blue, living and past and the good that comes of them. I believe in people and the good we are capable of.
I do believe in varitable Karmic causes and effects and yes, I believe in energies that are released when living comes to pass. Where we go, who knows. Around I suppose.

I believe that we as a species have much to learn of our connective responsibilities regarding our place in nature and have far to go before any level of true balance may be achieved.
But again, I believe
 
I essentially am. I've posted this elsewhere, but the idea, I think, is that the universe functions as a systemic whole, whereby one's actions bear an effect on the universe at large (or maybe just the objects within a given light-cone of space-time), 'reverberating' through it, and thus coming back to one's self, but in a wholly unpredictable way. In this way, "what goes around comes around". I find this case more plausible than some de facto system of 'moral accounting', whereby if one does bad things, bad things will happen to him or her.

ebola

"What goes around, comes around" is a Judeochristian interpretation of karma, one that is regularly applied by people in the west. Karma is not about what you deserve and God punishing you, it's simply about cause and effect. If I punch someone it will hurt them, and they may retaliate. It's not about them or me deserving it, it's about the fact of the matter. The raw translation of karma is "action". One action leads to another action. You may reap the consequences of an action that you had no part in. There is individual and collective karma.

Furthermore, it's not for humans to decide what is "good" and "bad". Again, that's Christianity, and human egos trying to weigh in on something that is way bigger than them. If someone does something "bad" to you, and you grow from it, was it "bad" in the first place? Was it your karma to receive such an action for your personal growth? There are people on this planet who commit sheer evil every day and they never pay for it. Hinduism describes this as universal law, which it has studied for thousands of years, and determined that karma is part of it. It's not a complete system, but it has some insight. Karma is simply one thing the universe does, like gravity, and humans are trapped in it.

The Buddhist understanding of karma does not reside in universal nature. It resides in our inner Buddha nature. We are born of pure consciousness, goodness if you will, and therefore any action which harms or causes another to suffer, our pure Buddha nature will take note of and want to remedy later. It remedies it by subconsciously entering or creating circumstances where the experiencer can reap the consequences of what they did in order to equalize. It's simply a ripening of prior circumstance. However, Buddhism takes the additional ontological step of saying this internal knowing transmits across lifetimes, and past karma will ripen.

The modern western view on karma I find interesting in some ways, especially under co-creation theory. It states that we come into life with a specific plan or karmic plan of action, and although we have free will, we do not have the freedom to escape the teachings we need. There is no tabulation of wrong or right, but simply a lesson plan.

The Hindu purist approach to karma is that people need to stop taking action. Every time you grasp for something, all you do is create more karma for yourself which later needs to be resolved. The Abrahamaic faiths instill the need for constant action in the root nature of our societies, while eastern faiths like Buddhism and Daoism say that no new action is necessary and in fact should be avoided.

In short, it's complicated.
 
Homeopathy = pseudoscience = bullshit. I don't have any new age beliefs. I do think that there may be some kind of essence that exists, a universal energy if you will. Explained by science as the following: gravity, magnetism, radiation, chemical interactions, biological adaptations etc. After all without gravity we would all just float off into space, not that life would have evolved in the first place, there would be no atmosphere and no planets for that matter. :)

I do believe that doing bad shit will come back to bite you in the ass. I guess that's karma!
 
^Depends what you mean by 'bite you in the ass'. I would hope that those who commit wrong of some sort would gain greater self-awareness at some point and understand that they have done wrong, experience a bit of regret and determine not to do so again, but I don't think that always or often happens. I utterly do not believe that the universe is revolving around humanity and that the wrongs we do have any actual meaning outside of our own short lives, so I am convinced that there exists no karma or even justice of any tangible sort, besides what we have constructed in our current society. There is no real evidence that a persons bad actions have any impact on their future at all. The physical construction of the universe really forbids the idea that small wrongs (which can describe almost all wrongs that have ever occurred) will have any karmic impact; this sort of karmic retribution is entirely unmeasureable and is so subjective as to be pretty much fictitious. There is no ledger of wrongs, no cosmic consequence of wrong, no need to avoid doing wrong for any hyper-global reason except that we SHOULD desire the good treatment of all.

Meh, that sounds excessively nihilistic. Its also quite liberating :)

I don't have any real beliefs in the supernatural TBH. I have experienced things which may fall into that category, but I cannot objectively describe them nor have they had any physical tangibility. I belief that the notion of god as external is incorrect, and that all mystical experiences are a product of the mind- which is an amazing thing, looked at in a certain light. I feel that all of existence is taking place within us, including the existence of god. Not so much solipsism as entheogenicism. (neologism according to my spell checker).

<3
 
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Psychotherapy
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I believe there is much that I cannot see or know--probably far more than what my perception allows me to see and know. But because I cannot see or know those worlds they don't interest me much. Time is short here. This one is fascinating and it is science that opens the portals to that fascination (the more we learn the more fascinating it gets). There will be plenty of time for what comes after this body and these perceptive limits when this life ends.
 
I believe there is much that I cannot see or know--probably far more than what my perception allows me to see and know. But because I cannot see or know those worlds they don't interest me much. Time is short here. This one is fascinating and it is science that opens the portals to that fascination (the more we learn the more fascinating it gets). There will be plenty of time for what comes after this body and these perceptive limits when this life ends.
What we see can hardly be considered anything at all. Just a small box in front of us with nearly all of that missing as well.
 
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