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morninggloryseed said:
East = anxious.
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Interesting. I wouldn't say unfounded as I find BC to be super laid back, and the east maybe less so. The bigger distinction I would make is urban=anxious. I cannot live in a city long term. It just wrecks me, no break from the noise, EVER. No space, no privacy, no outdoor recreational 'work' required, it just sucks the life out of me from all directions.

I still don't understand why everyone has a beef with Christ when there is a whole world of Islam-following people filled with hate, who hate every one of you, and are far more worthy of your snide remarks than the Christians. :)
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Ya know, for such a taboo topic to bring up I'm glad to see there's someone else out there. As much as I try to not be prejudice, I find the trend seems to indicate the straight fact that they hate us. If there's one right wing view I hold it's that I think there should be some provision to permit immigration to those who are willing to integrate with society, and not hate us because our land is better off than the one they came from.
I sort of lean towards Norway or Germany's view on immigration. Immigrants to those countries are compelled to addopt the customs of that country. I'm not saying religious conformation, I mean to adopt the basic sense of mutual respect, politeness, and willingness to help those in distress.

When I lived in Ottawa; which now has a huge middle eastern immigrant population time and again those tended to be the people who would bump and shove and not say 'sorry', they tended to stay sitting down on a bus with a nearby senior citizen; the custom here is to give them your seat, etc.. It would seem to be straight racism, and I know that's not all of them, but the trend I saw indicated a certain hatred of the semi-natives. On the other hand I've found Indians to be the nicest, meekest, conscientious group of people, and Asians not being far behind.

There is a trend of hatred there that I don't think an immigrating nation should accept.

nkb said:
Backlash over Obamacare is due to an expected increase in the cost of insurance policies as healthy young people choose not to buy insurance until they are sick (since you can no longer be denied for preexisting conditions), so people with insurance will cost more for companies to provide for.
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I actually thought of this while I was clearing snow. The thing there is that it's not universal healthcare then is it? The deal is that no one can 'opt-out' healthcare is paid by the taxpayers (all of them), for everyone. Taxpayers pay for health coverage for other taxpayers, children, seniors, the disabled, everyone. If no one can opt-out and no one can refuse to pay their taxes, it works out in the end.

nkb said:
Rural also carries the connotation of horrendously boring.
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Polar opposite for me. I ca'tn find anything to do in a city except spend money for something I half-heartedly enjoy. I think upbringing plays a big part, but without a rural setting I can't find anything to do.
 
pepper said:
Immigrants to those countries are compelled to adopt the customs of that country.
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There's room for everyone in America! You just have to work hard, and be reasonably polite (which in urban terms means not getting in people's way, or acknowledging other people's existence, except in specific circumstances/locations. I miss that, darn suburbs suck). Learning English is a plus, but it'd be really boring if I never heard Spanish, Chinese, or Arabic (sometimes Korean, Japanese, and Armenian) when I'm out and about.

mgs said:
Islam-following people
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There's a mosque two blocks from here, technically closer than the nearest church. They mostly keep to themselves, but I've had a few friends in that crowd. :)
 
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Relapsed on alcohol and barbiturates tonight. I feel bad but I'm not buzzed enough and I want more :/

On topic: MGS look up more about Islamic science. They were the bastion of all knowledge from the great empires of antiquity and advanced mathematics, geometry, astronomy, and art more than any other cultural group in the last 1500 years. The geometry that went into building and decorating the mosques of Cordoba, Istanbul, Cairo, Damascus is nothing short of amazing.. They were the progenitors of sacred geometry.

Islam is a beautiful religion/world view that is less focused on idol worship than discovering the beauty of the natural world and cosmos. I've actually considered converting to Islam in my early days. It's quite a beautiful thing, you must disregard the violence and focus on what the core of its belief system is based upon.
 
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How have you been thanatos? Don't feel bad about the relapse man we all go through that. I've hopped on and off opiates more times than I care to admit. Just don't go overboard because you know how that ends up..

I'm floating on some LSD tonight thanks to an older head. He really came through for me this time, he's been saving this stuff for years and I don't think its lost any potency. I sampled the same batch way back in 2004 and a tab still feels as strong as it did back then. I'm thinking about going out and playing in the snow while there is still plenty of it on the ground. >)
 
rog said:
kind of... but like, there are pockets of sanity. my city (dallas) has more in common with new york, LA, paris, etc than it does with rest of texas or the south.
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You lost me when you compared us to New York and Paris. Now I must assume that all the cities in the middle of the country (besides Chicago) are completely undifferentiable.
 
Roger&Me said:
kind of... but like, my city (dallas) has more in common with new york, LA, paris, etc than it does with rest of texas or the south. its only part of texas on paper, its like a whole different state. austin is kinda the same way, but its more similar to like portland or seattle maybe. but yeah, the entire rest of the state is full of rednecks and bible-thumpers.
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Ya, I've heard Texas cities are quite liberal. I thought Austin was really liberal. Isn't it full of potheads like in Dazed and Confused? ;)

Thanatos said:
Relapsed on alcohol and barbiturates tonight. I feel bad but I'm not buzzed enough and I want more :/
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I know that feeling. It's weird how your drug of choice can sometimes never satisfy. I had the strangest thing happen the last time I did crystal. I was consuming a shit-ton for the non-existent recent tolerance I had (hadn't taken any uppers in 5 months). I was wired, but never satisfied. Then I bumped again, and I bumped again. It got to the point that the people I was with who always saw me as the moderate, responsible one finally said they wouldn't take more. I was kind of like "yeah, I guess that was a pile, okay, done" and then I couldn't sleep until the following night.

It's just weird how you can does into health issues and still not be satisfied. Compulsions aren't fun. :\
 
Never Knows Best said:
You lost me when you compared us to New York and Paris. Now I must assume that all the cities in the middle of the country (besides Chicago) are completely undifferentiable.
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i just meant that its a major hub of commerce full of worldly ppl etc, as opposed to a podunk town full of rednecks. was talking more from a cultural standpoint. from a city planning perspective, it actually has a lot in common with LA... its a huge sprawling city, with lots of small neighborhoods that are almost like smaller little cities within its confines. people drive everywhere, you can't really get anywhere walking, etc.

PepperSocks said:
Ya, I've heard Texas cities are quite liberal. I thought Austin was really liberal. Isn't it full of potheads like in Dazed and Confused? ;)
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lol yeah, austin is a really weird little city. well, part of it is anyway. especially the area around the university. dallas is not quite so liberal, its all about big business. people here tend to be fiscally conservative and socially liberal.
 
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Never Knows Best said:
The South is rural (i.e. uneducated), and full of people who think every word of the Bible is literally true. Also, there was that whole secession thing that they never got over.
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I find this offensive! ;)

We may be portrayed as backwards thinking idiots by the mass media but I dare you to come to NC and not fall in love with the place. I've lived in some major cities and nothing compares to my home. I guess that's why I keep coming back...

I refuse to lose my accent too even with all the urging that it would make me sound "less stupid". I think it's awful that we're teaching an entire generation of kids that it is not okay to talk like their parents talk. Our accents make us unique and are there to remind ourselves and others of our roots. Why would I trade it to sound like some generic news anchor? Is is my fault you don't understand the concept of "yonder" ya damn yankee scum? :D

For real stop by sometime, sample the local corn liquor and homegrown cannabis which has been kindly tended to under the glorious North Carolina sun. It is truly Gods country here. The kind of place that's still unspoiled enough that you can lose yourself and appreciate everything the world has to offer.

Sure it ain't for everyone and there are some nuts out there in the woods (just like everywhere else) but its what I've always called home and I wouldn't trade it for the world.

Sorry if I'm coming off as stupid I'm mid-trip and feeling it for sure. :p You're alright by me man.
 
I don't disagree! ;)

Especially up there in Asheville, them fools know how to throw a party.

I'm going out there to see Shpongle later this month and I can't wait. Going to have to stock up on some goodies for the show.
 
HeadphonesandLSD said:
I dare you to come to NC and not fall in love with the place.
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Agreed. I quite like NC. I don't have a problem with what people call 'rednecks'; in fact to a yuppie I'm pretty sure I'd be labelled as one.

Anyways your state is full of awesome people and breathtaking mountains. :) <3

I've lived in some major cities and nothing compares to my home. I guess that's why I keep coming back...
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I'm not in NC; but of all the times I've left my home for a city.. well you took the words out of my mouth. I'm going to end up having a place of my own here, for sure.
 
Thanatos said:
On topic: MGS
Islam is a beautiful religion/world view that is less focused on idol worship
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I can't speak for the Catholics, but not worshiping idols dates back to my guy's religion, hence Abrahamic/monotheistic religions. That isn't some great invention of Muhammad or his followers.

As for the other...well I think it is best to say...Islam is a book, so as long as you know my comments will always be anti Islam, not ant Muslim..I'd say let's take it to IM and I will make no further comments on the subject. %)
 
Well, so much for winter at the winter olympics. People skiing though slush :(

Two winter olympics in a row now. Winter olympics in Vancouver? Canada's warmest city to the point that snow there is as much pandemonium as snow in Georgia. Okay need mountains, Calgary already had the olympics, Montreal would be decent; Mont Tremblant nearby. I seem to recall Montreal having summer olympics though. Edmonton hasn't had them and there's mountains nearby, there's also many Lillehammer sized cities in the rockies. Anywho I think Vancouver was a silly choice for a winter event.

It seems now though that Vancouver wasn't nearly as silly as Sochi. Of course Sochi was chosen for the infrastructure boom for the resort city. I think somewhere in the Urals would have been a wiser choice though.

Looking at the climate info for the 2018 Pyeongchang winter games, it seems we'll have a reasonably winter-y 2018 winter olympics.
 
Ya man, born and raised. Like one of the other 90% of the population I'm within 100k of the border; we live in houses, not igloos, and yes, we legalized the VCR last month. ;)

Actually I can visually see the southern shore of the St. Lawrence which is NY state. I'm trying to think of something smart to put in my location info that witty, reflective of location, but not boringly obvious or direct.

I've never been to the midwest, but wouldn't be averse to going at some point in time. Likely as part of a trip to lands further south-west. The american rockies on my my trip list. :)

I feel like the only North American here whose crossed the world's largest unprotected border. Y'all should see what's up here like we see what's down there.
 
Ah, tropical rain Canada. ;)

If you ever get a chance to see the Canadian Shield go for it; Algonquin Park is the quintessential spot, but pretty much the whole map of inland Ontario is half blue with lakes. Beautiful fresh water lakes full of fish, massive granite outcrops, old growth deciduous forest, hiking, swimming, camping to your heart's content. Everywhere has something nowhere else in the world has; that primal, life filled, fairy tale-ish nature is my part of Ontario I would love for the world to experience.
 
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