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Man I'm so pissed I won't be able to watch Hernandez this season. I don't care if killed someone or was an accessory; I want to see him play. His game is more of a WR/TE hybrid, like a power receiver that understand coverage and routes but can still muscle out a 10-15 yard possession on a regular basis. I always have him as one of my fantasy TE's, who am I gonna pick up now?
In better news, the Chiefs haven't gotten fat or pt off bc of Reid so far and Smith is gelling well with the offense. At least 8-8 this year. Maybe 10-6 and a wildcard shot depending on how Denver plays.
In better news, the Chiefs haven't gotten fat or pt off bc of Reid so far and Smith is gelling well with the offense. At least 8-8 this year. Maybe 10-6 and a wildcard shot depending on how Denver plays.
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jason witten or tony gonzalez
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oh man entheo I can't wait until the season starts
heard it here first, LeSean McCoy is going to lead the league in rushing yards
bet on it
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Aaron Hernandez being released by the Pats is probably the least of his worries right now.
Led from his "upscale" home in cuffs by the police today
To show the Pats don't have all the headlines for themselves Browns LB Ausar Walcott has been charged with attempted Murder relating to an incident in Passaic,NJ on Sunday
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so, he was arrested and then released from jail. interesting.
meanwhile, mark sanchez is partying his balls off.
meanwhile, mark sanchez is partying his balls off.
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two solid fantasy choices, for sure. no jimmy graham? how about vernon davis. with kaepernick firing and crabtree's injury i think ehe'll bounce back from last year's middling year.
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First charge is Murder.& also five "Gun related charges"
Pleads not guilty.
If he does play another down again ( If by some chance he has Ray Lewis's lawyers) It certainly wont be for the Patriots
And to think they were worried about Gronk and his partying !
The new Rae Carruth
Pleads not guilty.
If he does play another down again ( If by some chance he has Ray Lewis's lawyers) It certainly wont be for the Patriots
And to think they were worried about Gronk and his partying !
The new Rae Carruth
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Not a chance in hell that any dude named Hernandez with sleevetats like his will be able to go infront of any (mainly white jury) in MA and get anything less than a guilty
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Jamaal Charles has a better chance than McCoy. Chip Kelly doesn't understand how to run the ball in a traditional pro offense.... And McCoy certainly isn't a wildcat or option style back.oh man entheo I can't wait until the season starts
heard it here first, LeSean McCoy is going to lead the league in rushing yards
bet on it
Anyone look at Hernandez's arrest record? This isn't the first time he's been involved in gun violence.
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no entheo you don't understand, Andy Reid has a very specific and predictable gameplan that does not involve running the ball even though his team has nothing at QB.
Charles is not better than McCoy either, but I'm glad your crack dealer is getting good shit again.
Chip Kelley is not going to bring his offense play for play into the NFL, he will make adjustments like any good coach would.
at least that's what he said, could be all talk really, no one around here is expecting any type of competitiveness this season so he has some time to figure it out.
I'll bet you the Birds beat the Chiefs in that thursday night game though, 9/19/13 mark it on the calendar
Charles is not better than McCoy either, but I'm glad your crack dealer is getting good shit again.
Chip Kelley is not going to bring his offense play for play into the NFL, he will make adjustments like any good coach would.
at least that's what he said, could be all talk really, no one around here is expecting any type of competitiveness this season so he has some time to figure it out.
I'll bet you the Birds beat the Chiefs in that thursday night game though, 9/19/13 mark it on the calendar
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what do rae carruth and aaron hernandez have in common?
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You're getting a little too high on the Eagles man. Their team lacks serious depth and Chip is a first time NFL coach. Will probably work out in the long run but this first season will be a disaster.
We are gonna have a really good year, the pieces are in place and our front office is much better. If we start playing Marty Ball(schotenheimer) we are set. Hell we could even win the division is manning has an off year.
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Chargers are starting to look like they might actually have a chance against the broncos
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Present your evidence.
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the only team heading into next season that has legitimately no reason for optimism is probably jacksonville
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NFL's most improved position groups
By Chris Wesseling
Published: June 21, 2013 at 07:36 p.m.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000213942/article/nfls-most-improved-position-groups
Now that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have imported the dynamic duo of shutdown cornerback Darrelle Revis and All-Pro safety Dashon Goldson, the Bucs' secondary has a strong argument for most improved position group in the NFL.
Let's take a look at the contenders.
St. Louis Rams receiving corps
Sam Bradford will miss security blanket Danny Amendola on third downs, but the infusion of speed will more than make up for the loss. Explosive rookie Tavon Austin will fill Amendola's role in the slot, teaming with deep threat Chris Givens to give Bradford two receivers with 4.30 40-yard-dash speed. Austin Pettis emerged as a red-zone threat late in the season, and the Rams expect big strides from 2012 second-round draft selection Brian Quick. Don't sleep on third-round rookie Stedman Bailey, who was Geno Smith's go-to receiver at West Virginia.
The key to the turnaround could be size-speed freak Jared Cook, expected to be a "huge part" of the new-look passing game after being underused by the Tennessee Titans.
"We are a thousand years ahead of where we were last year," offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer recently told ESPN.com's Mike Sando.
Tampa Bay Buccaneers secondary
If Revis' recovery from knee surgery goes half as smoothly as those of Adrian Peterson and Robert Griffin III, the Bucs will have the league's premier lockdown cornerback to go with veteran Eric Wright and ball-hawking second-round draft pick Johnthan Banks. Pairing Goldson with hard-hitting Mark Barron gives the Bucs a safety tandem with the potential to rival the Seattle Seahawks' Earl Thomas and Kam Chancellor as the NFL's best. A pass defense that ranked dead last in 2012 could be one of the league's stingiest in 2013.
Tennessee Titans offensive line
Tennessee's interior run blockers have been so overwhelmed the past two seasons that Chris Johnson developed the bad habit of hesitating at the line of scrimmage, no longer trusting his eyes. Johnson now is wearing a wide smile in the Titans' new run-first offense after the additions of Pro-Bowl caliber left guard Andy Levitre and right guard Chance Warmack, whom the team selected 10th overall in April.
Center Fernando Velasco is coming off a fine season, but will face heat from fourth-round draft pick Brian Schwenke, viewed by NFL Network analyst Mike Mayock as the top center prospect in the 2013 NFL Draft.
Miami Dolphins receiving corps
Nominal No. 1 receiver Brian Hartline managed to convert 131 targets into one measly touchdown last season. The only other NFL wide receiver with at least 100 targets and fewer than three touchdowns was Davone Bess, also of the Dolphins. In other words, Ryan Tannehill's so-called weapons lacked any semblance of playmaking ability.
Enter Mike Wallace, one of the rare breed capable of scoring touchdowns (32 in four seasons), drawing double teams and blowing the top off of defenses. Wallace has averaged a touchdown every 12.7 targets compared to 41.7 for Bess and 50.2 for Hartline. On top of Wallace's deep speed changing the dynamics of the entire offense, tight end Dustin Keller gives the Dolphins their first movable chess piece at tight end since Randy McMichael was in his prime nearly a decade ago.
Arizona Cardinals quarterbacks, offensive line
The optimism rising in the desert is rooted in the confidence that the Cardinals will no longer be held hostage by a collection of the NFL's most inept quarterbacks and blockers. Even if Carson Palmer has regressed to the league average, that qualifies as a godsend after Cardinals quarterbacks tossed a grand total of two touchdown passes from Weeks 8 to 17 last season.
The beleaguered offensive line has added reinforcements with left tackle Levi Brown returning from a season lost to triceps surgery and No. 7 overall pick Jonathan Cooper already penciled in as the starting left guard. Right tackle Bobby Massie was quietly one of the NFL's most improved rookies in the second half of the season.
Philadelphia Eagles offensive line, tight ends
The Eagles topped our list of the teams benefiting from the return of injured players, largely because left tackle Jason Peters, center Jason Kelce and right guard Todd Herremans are all expected back at full strength after missing at least half of the 2012 season. Throw in No. 4 overall pick Lane Johnson at right tackle, and this offensive line might be the most athletic in the league.
New coach Chip Kelly clearly has designs on featuring the tight end in his offense, signing the versatile James Casey and drafting tight end Zach Ertz in the second round to complement Brent Celek.
Cleveland Browns pass rushers
Edge rusher Paul Kruger is expected to be the focal point of new coordinator Ray Horton's 3-4 defense. He'll play opposite Jabaal Sheard, who led the team with seven sacks last year. The Browns envision No. 6 overall pick Barkevious Mingo following the Aldon Smith/Bruce Irvin plan, easing him in as a situational pass rusher.
Desmond Bryant's five-year, $34 million contract raised a few eyebrows, but he has a relentless motor as evidenced by the fourth-most quarterback pressures of any defensive tackle in the NFL last season.
Other candidates: Chiefs quarterbacks, Panthers' front seven, Saints secondary, Packers running backs, Falcons running backs, Eagles tight ends, Seahawks receiving corps, Colts offensive line, Jaguars offensive line, Bills receiving corps, Raiders secondary.
By Chris Wesseling
Published: June 21, 2013 at 07:36 p.m.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000213942/article/nfls-most-improved-position-groups
Now that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have imported the dynamic duo of shutdown cornerback Darrelle Revis and All-Pro safety Dashon Goldson, the Bucs' secondary has a strong argument for most improved position group in the NFL.
Let's take a look at the contenders.
St. Louis Rams receiving corps
Sam Bradford will miss security blanket Danny Amendola on third downs, but the infusion of speed will more than make up for the loss. Explosive rookie Tavon Austin will fill Amendola's role in the slot, teaming with deep threat Chris Givens to give Bradford two receivers with 4.30 40-yard-dash speed. Austin Pettis emerged as a red-zone threat late in the season, and the Rams expect big strides from 2012 second-round draft selection Brian Quick. Don't sleep on third-round rookie Stedman Bailey, who was Geno Smith's go-to receiver at West Virginia.
The key to the turnaround could be size-speed freak Jared Cook, expected to be a "huge part" of the new-look passing game after being underused by the Tennessee Titans.
"We are a thousand years ahead of where we were last year," offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer recently told ESPN.com's Mike Sando.
Tampa Bay Buccaneers secondary
If Revis' recovery from knee surgery goes half as smoothly as those of Adrian Peterson and Robert Griffin III, the Bucs will have the league's premier lockdown cornerback to go with veteran Eric Wright and ball-hawking second-round draft pick Johnthan Banks. Pairing Goldson with hard-hitting Mark Barron gives the Bucs a safety tandem with the potential to rival the Seattle Seahawks' Earl Thomas and Kam Chancellor as the NFL's best. A pass defense that ranked dead last in 2012 could be one of the league's stingiest in 2013.
Tennessee Titans offensive line
Tennessee's interior run blockers have been so overwhelmed the past two seasons that Chris Johnson developed the bad habit of hesitating at the line of scrimmage, no longer trusting his eyes. Johnson now is wearing a wide smile in the Titans' new run-first offense after the additions of Pro-Bowl caliber left guard Andy Levitre and right guard Chance Warmack, whom the team selected 10th overall in April.
Center Fernando Velasco is coming off a fine season, but will face heat from fourth-round draft pick Brian Schwenke, viewed by NFL Network analyst Mike Mayock as the top center prospect in the 2013 NFL Draft.
Miami Dolphins receiving corps
Nominal No. 1 receiver Brian Hartline managed to convert 131 targets into one measly touchdown last season. The only other NFL wide receiver with at least 100 targets and fewer than three touchdowns was Davone Bess, also of the Dolphins. In other words, Ryan Tannehill's so-called weapons lacked any semblance of playmaking ability.
Enter Mike Wallace, one of the rare breed capable of scoring touchdowns (32 in four seasons), drawing double teams and blowing the top off of defenses. Wallace has averaged a touchdown every 12.7 targets compared to 41.7 for Bess and 50.2 for Hartline. On top of Wallace's deep speed changing the dynamics of the entire offense, tight end Dustin Keller gives the Dolphins their first movable chess piece at tight end since Randy McMichael was in his prime nearly a decade ago.
Arizona Cardinals quarterbacks, offensive line
The optimism rising in the desert is rooted in the confidence that the Cardinals will no longer be held hostage by a collection of the NFL's most inept quarterbacks and blockers. Even if Carson Palmer has regressed to the league average, that qualifies as a godsend after Cardinals quarterbacks tossed a grand total of two touchdown passes from Weeks 8 to 17 last season.
The beleaguered offensive line has added reinforcements with left tackle Levi Brown returning from a season lost to triceps surgery and No. 7 overall pick Jonathan Cooper already penciled in as the starting left guard. Right tackle Bobby Massie was quietly one of the NFL's most improved rookies in the second half of the season.
Philadelphia Eagles offensive line, tight ends
The Eagles topped our list of the teams benefiting from the return of injured players, largely because left tackle Jason Peters, center Jason Kelce and right guard Todd Herremans are all expected back at full strength after missing at least half of the 2012 season. Throw in No. 4 overall pick Lane Johnson at right tackle, and this offensive line might be the most athletic in the league.
New coach Chip Kelly clearly has designs on featuring the tight end in his offense, signing the versatile James Casey and drafting tight end Zach Ertz in the second round to complement Brent Celek.
Cleveland Browns pass rushers
Edge rusher Paul Kruger is expected to be the focal point of new coordinator Ray Horton's 3-4 defense. He'll play opposite Jabaal Sheard, who led the team with seven sacks last year. The Browns envision No. 6 overall pick Barkevious Mingo following the Aldon Smith/Bruce Irvin plan, easing him in as a situational pass rusher.
Desmond Bryant's five-year, $34 million contract raised a few eyebrows, but he has a relentless motor as evidenced by the fourth-most quarterback pressures of any defensive tackle in the NFL last season.
Other candidates: Chiefs quarterbacks, Panthers' front seven, Saints secondary, Packers running backs, Falcons running backs, Eagles tight ends, Seahawks receiving corps, Colts offensive line, Jaguars offensive line, Bills receiving corps, Raiders secondary.
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