Cocaine Heart attack while coming down from coke binge?

[sweetstufflover]

Hello,

This is my second post. I really like the BL forums. The staff seems very professional, and I like the fact that users aren't forced to use "SWIM". 8)

I'll make it quick:
The last time I did coke was about two months ago. The source dried, so I don't buy anymore. I only buy coke when it's 60% pure or more. The last coke I had was totally pure. I mean totally pure. I know, everybody says "I know, everybody says they got the best coke out there, but I really got the best one!", but I know it. I know the dealer. It came straight from the source into my hands.

So I did 1g of pure coke on one day. I started using at 4 P.M. and ended at 11. P.M. At 2 A.M. I had a really bad comedown. I was sweating like shit and my heart rate began to grow higher. I became anxious, as I suffered from cardiac arrythmias in the past, but that was treated in the hospital. No problems since that. And I used to use coke a lot before that terrible experience.

So my heart suddenly began to race, and it was verry arythmic (sorry, my English isn't perfect). I began to panic. I tried to calm down, I drank some water... nothing helped.
At this point, I was in the beginning of opiate withdrawal. I was addicted to oxycodone (200mg's a day, i.v.), and I only had 20mg left which I shot up immediately, but it didn't help.
I called the ambulance. My heart raced and I was preparing for death. At this point, my family stood beside me, and I told them the whole story. When the ambulance arrived, they brought me to the hospital. On the way I nearly collapsed and died. My blood pressure was like 200/30, not kidding!
I also got a different kind of touch-sense, when my heart began to race. It felt like "buzzing", like my flesh vibrates. Very unpleasant. When I touched something, I felt it totally different, as if it vibrated, and about 0,5 seconds later. My perception of touch-sense was suffering a "hick-up"... let me explain: it felt like... a graphics card that can't handle a certain game, and the framerate drops. Insted of 60 frames per second, there are only 10 frames per second. It felt like my touch-sense only "felt" 30 out of 100 units in one second. I can't explain it well... sorry... but it was very frightening, and I had already experienced that 3 times ago. Once when smoking marijuana for the first time, second when having been intoxicated with alcohol and third without any plausible reason.

In the hospital, they gave me beta-blockers, which can be fatal when coke plays a role. I read that on the internet. Don't know more about that...

At about 4 A.M. I got 40mg's of oxycodone, that I immediately shot up on the toilet. The buzzing and vibrating was gone and I felt good.

My questions:

-Did anybody of you experience something similar like me?

-What are the symptoms of cocaine comedown?

-Is a heart attack or heart-attack-like symptoms possible when coming down from coke?

-Does anybody of you know the buzzing and vibrating of the touch-sense? I know I didn't explain it very well, but if anybody experienced it, he's gonna know what I mean.

-Could light opiate withdrawal, combined with a heavy cocaine comedown, trigger a heart attack?

-I don't have benzos at home. Should I get some flunitrazepam in advance to be prepared for another coke binge in the future? I wouldn't use THAT much coke again, of course.

-Any experiences?


I did use the search engine a lot. But I didn't find anything that matched my questions a 100%. Like the touch-sense-thing, the heart attack and so on. This is my second post. I usually speak German, so my English isn't the best. I hope you understand what I wrote. Please don't flame me if I broke a rule, I'm new to the forums and I will do my best in learning how bluelight works. Thx!

greetz, ssl

 

[Pusswhip Banggang]

I never use any kind of upper unless I have a benzo or at least some Lunesta to come down off of it. You didn't have a heart attack, but you had a panic attack. Even my meds for ADHD are avoided if I run out of benzos. Which is probably good once in a while.

Since I take 60 mgs of Dex a day for ADHD, I get Klonopin as well for social anxiety. Be more careful though, cause when you're addicted to an opiate and take something that acts differently, it can mess with you.

I am an alcoholic, and was sobering up trying to quit, and I took coke and X without having a benzo. I had two 10 mg Ambien... I thought I was having a heart attack, but the next day I was groovy. My family almost called an ambulance, but I told them not to, and I was just going through dt's or whatever.

 

[anterrabae]

I thought I had a 'mini-heartattack' coming off a binge once. I had stabbing pain in my chest and a numb arm fro a good hour and a half. Went away on it's own...to this day I've no clue what it was, but damn I wish I had my xanax prescription at that point in time.

As for dealing with a coke comedown in the future, make sure you've got some benzos to help you get by. Otherwise the following day will not be pleasant one bit, depending on how much you've done.

 

[Nib]

Well I've done tons of coke, and the only time I ever almost had a heart attack was after an intense wrestling match someone. My heart was beating out of my chest and I felt like shit for about 2 hours. I can usually handle my shit so I didn't bug out enough to call the Ambulance.

Nothing that serious has happened to me just from sniffing though. I would get some pains in my chest and fast heartbeat, but that was just part of the comedown. The slight opiate w/d might have made you feel a little worse, but I don't think it would actually cause a heart attack. I would just blame it all on the coke. Maybe you have a weak heart to begin with.

You said you used a lot of coke before, so you should know what the comedown is like. You should probably just stay away from coke.

 

[narky1]

Like pusswhip Bangang has already said it was probably a panic attack, I am a coke veteran
of some 20 years and have gone through 7 gram sessions to myself, I once had a similar experience where I thought I was having a heart attack about 16 years ago and went to the hospital they gave me some sedatives and sent me on my way, it is realistic that you had some paranoia/psychosis and focussed in on the normal side effects of taking coke which then lead you to a panic attack, and as the above have mentioned dont do coke without some benzos at hand, if you feel yourself going into panic mode drop 20mg of valium that should calm you down.

 

[sweetstufflover]

Errmm... I always shoot coke. That coke wos 100% purity, I dosed it with a 0,001g scale. 30mg gave me a VERY decent hit. 60mg were a big hig, 80mg were insane. Absolutely insane. It was like going nuts, train sound, everything. I'd never do more than 50mg if I'm ever going to get some of that great stuff in my hands again. It's just too dangerous, as that stuff was ABSOLUTELY pure. No cut in it at all. Pure cocaine-hydrochloride. 0,7g of that stuff in 6 hours... the comedown nearly killed me, at least my heart beat trough my chest like shit. I nearly collapsed and fell unconscious.

:-(

Man... I wish I could get some of that coke or some great crack again.

 

[fm1983]

^ 100% pure? 8)

 

[sweetstufflover]

Yes, pure. You don't have to believe me, but it was pure. I came straight from Venezuela to me. The guy who smuggles it is a pro, but he got busted some days ago, unfortunately. He knew some coke dealers in Venezuela and Columbia, they did the packaging and gave him the prepared deodorant-spraydoses, bags, etc. etc. Usually, he came with 2-5kg of PURE coke to Europe. Great times, but very expensive stuff.

That coke gave me a rush when I shot 30mg's. Not kidding. More than 50mg were insane. Believe me or not, but it's possible to get pure coke. It's very rare - especially in Europe - but if you're REALLY really lucky, you may meet a guy who knows someone who smuggles.

But it doesn't matter if it was 10 or 100% pure (actually, 100% pure coke is in fact only 85-90% pure, because the hydrochloride takes some space, that's why smuggling coke base is easier; and some cut like salt (from the production process). I was taken to hospital because the comedown was so hard.

 

[xxl]

If you snort coke the coke tends to peak nearer the come-down or even during the come-down. At least that's what you will tend to experience: the high is no longer there but things like heartbeat and blood pressure are at their highest.

Not so with quick-acting forms of coke (crack or IV). Here the peak is almost immediate and when the come-down comes it is a real "down" thing.

That's why IMO the hasard of snorted coke should never be underestimated. Because the high is not immediate, you go on doing lines after you should have stopped. Then it hits you.

Note that the use of beta-blockers in emergency situations is still a matter for debate in cases of coke-induced crisis. They shouldn't be used by default, but if there's no other way to bring a life-threatening hypertension down they *can* be used, according to what you can read here and there in the litterature. The fact that they used beta-blockers in your case suggests your case was serious.

There seems to exist no magic bullet to save a patient from a bad coke overdose (as opposed to a heroin overdose for instance). With coke prevention is not only better than the cure, it's the only way to stay alive.

Regarding purity of coke, DEA seizures indicate that imported coke itself is only 80%. Some cutting is necessary for the texture of the coke (prevent it from clogging or from going gooey etc.). So someone bragging about 100% is a fraud.

 

[sweetstufflover]

Didn't I say that PURE coke is 80-90% pure? I wrote it some posts above. I consider those 80-90% as 100% pure, as this is the final product. Pure cocaine, ready for consumption. This product is then cut by all the greedy assholes.

I always shoot cocaine, and I also shot it when I was taken to hospital. But I'm curious if the comedown can cause such horrible effects... The cocaine effects wore off more than 2 hours before my heart started to beat like shit. So it must have been the comedown.

 

[xtcnation]

But you said in you first post you did a whole gram. you saying you IV'd a whole g then??

 

[BrokedownPalace]

Yeah... If you got a rush from 30mg as you say, you polished off little over thirty seperate shots in a day of pure coke? Weighing each one out to 30mg? GTFO bro with your 'pure coke'. I don't even know why i am bothering bringing this up. Oh well. People who have access to coke that is above 90 percent aren't gonna be selling grams to kids like you. And if they did for some random stupid reason they would cut their shit before hand. What was the color smell and consistency of the supposed pure coke? I am actually curious.

You just said how it didn't matter if it was 10 percent, or 100 percent. so why even bring it up, other than dick-sizing and bragging?

I feel stupid after reading half of these purity related threads. It is just like every single time I have ever bought heroin, it was "Straight off the key, yo." According to my dealers. Yeah right. 8)

Regardless of the potency I certainly do not hope you had a heart attack, though. I hope you're alright and don't take my post seriously or even regard it at all. I just felt like having a fit on saturday morning.

 

[affasd]

Yo man you had a panic attack, you were coming down from a coke binge which caused anxiety and being in opiate withdrawal just intensified it. I can relate I get really bad anxiety when Im in opiate withdrawal, since your brain is used to being sedated by the oxies when you dont have them your brain goes into overdrive, My pupils swell up and every sense, touch, smell, sight is all amplified and my mind is racing, being in severe opiate withdrawal is almost like tripping mildly for me without the euphoria and at the same time feeling like shit from all the other w/d symptoms.

 

[TheLostBoys]

Ive done coke 4 or 5 times in my life & not once did I enjoy it like my friends around me. Had to drink some wine every time to level me off. Just dont like the feeling of my heart beating like crazy while im sitting there doing lines. If somone came up to me today with even the pure stuff you have gotten, I would turn it down, wont ever touch coke again.

 

[hematocritter]

DISCLAIMER: This thread is over 2 years old

I resurrected this old thread because I had some similar questions and wanted to add some personal experiences.
I know everyone always says there is no such thing as pure coke, but I have a cousin that lives in Morelia so I have definitely felt the real thing. It honestly feels like it could be considered an entirely different drug. No comedown, no jittery feelings, no paranoia, no fiending for more 5 seconds after a shot. It was truly the most incredible experience of my life, and I feel that I have lived quite an exciting life, so that is saying a lot for me.

I have costochondritis from constantly hitting my chest on the handlebars of my dirtbike while racing, so it is very difficult for me to know what is going on with my body when I do coke. Before the judgment crew comes out, please understand that I only partake in such things when the season is over and only if I did well (I justify it by 'earning' it with a successful season). Since the symptoms of costo and heart attacks are very similar, I sometimes wonder if I am doing more damage than I initially thought.

Anyway, the guy who said he got a major rush from 30mg is totally believable to me if it was pure. When I first tried IV coke, I went online to look at recommended dosing. Some people said 100mg! I thought that was crazy, I so I tried 10mg and got a decent buz, but no train station. I waited a while and did 60mg......and holy shit, let me tell you, I felt like bullet trains were blasting in opposite directions by each ear, and I had major euphoria. it lasted maybe 30 seconds, but it was the most intense feeling I have ever had in my life. I did not experience any negative feelings, so I tried 90mg. It was FAR more intense, not only did I get the bullet trains, but the ringing was so intense yet so pleasurable I did not know how to explain it. I stopped using that day just to stay safe.

When I woke the following morning, I tried 60mg thinking it would be like the previous day. I got the ringing and all that, but my heart rate and BP went through the roof and scared the shit out of me. I have a BP monitor and the numbers were downright scary. I stopped for the day.

I began using it regularly a long time after that, and never more than 100mg. I usually used 90, but one day it stopped working. 100 gave me a rush, but not like it used to be, and the HR and BP were out of hand. I was not responding anymore and made a thread here about it to see if that was normal. So my question is, if your brain has adapted to the higher doses and is no longer giving you the rush, does that mean the rest of your body has adapted, or is it still getting the full abuse of the high dose? I assume it does, but I figured I would ask.

A couple years later my cousin came up from Morelia with a little bit. I had to try it again. Sure enough, it as just as fun as it was at the beginning, with the same doses. I did it for three days in a row, but had to keep bumping my dose. I started to feel pressure in my sternum, and also in the lower left ribs by my sternum.... is that my costochondritis, or is that angina or some other horrible side effect? How can you tell the difference? Sometimes my ribs ache like hell (on coke or not), and it doesn't get worse when I do coke except for the very lower part of my sternum. If I press on it, it hurts a little. I have read that costo can even cause that lower rib pain too, so I am very confused as to what is causing what.

I was loving this blow so much, I kept doing more and more until I realized I was doing some pretty fat rigs. I didn't weigh them, but I swear to all of you that they were at least 3x larger than my 90mg doses. I decided to do last one big one before stopping for the evening. I put the rig in, aspirated, then flushed the goodness into my vein. I felt like the champion of all sports, winner of the Nobel prize, and the happiest man alive. This crazy high lasted about 2 minutes, which is a long, long time based on all my previous experience. Suddenly though, my smile turned upside down and my heart beat harder than I was comfortable with, and I had a sharp pain in my back on the left side that only lasted for a second. My left arm was also numb, which freaked me out. It went away almost immediately though. I have heard that costochondritis can have symptoms similar to that, but I have never felt it before. I also felt a weird sharp burn in my heart for a split second and that was it. Then I felt completely fine. Does anyone have an idea what that whole experience was? Can you have a little heart attack and not really know it? could I have damaged my heart, but just not enough to kill me on the spot?

I am 31 years old and was a professional athlete until I went off to college. I always trained still as if I was an athlete, so I would consider myself in good shape. My dad's side of the family does not have heart problems (but they don't do coke), and my mom's side doesn't have problems with the heart itself, but they do have arteriosclerosis (and they don't use drugs either).

So far (knock on wood), after playing with coke I give myself 4 days of rest and go back to my training. So far (and I pray it stays this way), I have never had any issues while exercising. I am just scared that one day I will be going for a run and this occasional coke abuse will finally take its final toll on me.

I had a doctor tell me that if you binge on coke and don't have any problems after a couple days of discontinuing, you should be fine. I don't know if I buy that though. Sounds kind of weird that it either kills you or it doesn't do anything.

 

[.:Holy::Toast:.]

If you had a heart attack your heart would have stopped beating. (I believe, even if just momentarily, unless there is a different between a heart attack and cardiac arrest)
However large doses of stimulants can cause panic attacks and irregular heart rates, both of which can be very stressful on the body

 

[CaveBear]

The heart doesnt necessarily stop beating during a heart attack, my Father had 3 and his never stopped.

Regards to purity, who really cares, it doesnt matter in this instance imo....OP told his experience and the results and had questions. Do enough blow, iv or sniffin, doesnt matter, your gonna have a bad experience regardless of purity eventually.


Oddly enough, I have done coke one time since 2008, i was a heavy user in years past, that and H, together but what i always found odd was even though i did quite a bit, i never really had the addiction physically or mentally to coke. If i had it great, if not, no big deal. Not so with, alcohol, heroin, benzos. Ive sold cars to get more H, i just cant imagine doing that with coke. Do any of you have similar dry goods that you can use and use and use, and never feel that addiction???

 

[opiatekrzy]

could of been a possible mini stroke? using opiates to come down from cocaine/stims is dangerous, WE think that the opiates will calm everything down and put us back to normal but it just doesnt work like that, benzos from what i know are given to people who are on the verge of stroke or heart attack from OD on stimulants..benzos are safe....remember, shooting coke, wait COCAINE ALONE is HORRIBLE for ur heart, i dont care if its snorted or smoked, it fucks ur neourological system up also..shooting coke is playing russian roulette...i think its safer to shoot dope then to shoot coke...my one friend shot a 40 of coke, his usual dose, but it was real good and he didnt realize it, he started convulsing, foaming out of his mouth, and then he was bleeding out of his ears, his nose and eyes...he got thru the rush..and sat geeked in the car for 10 hours looking left to right...begging for more..the dude almost died, he should of, and as evil as cocaine is, as humans we will choose cocaine over food...like with rats...cocaine no good! yes it feels hella good IVing a good amount thats not too weak or strong, but it is rough on the heart

 

[Psychedelic Jay]

You had a massive panic attack.

Cocaine metabolizes into very cardiotoxic shit. More so if you drink alcohol.

Cocaine metabolizes into a worse cardiac stimulant. Which is why you feel sleepy, but your heart is still going at it when coming down.

Clonidine is a godsend along with a low dose benzo. You can’t fucking beat that combo.

Opiate withdrawal and stimulant abuse is a big no-no. As your blood vessels and heart were already under a load when you started doing the coke.


Before you blow a gasket, I advise you to have emergency supply of benzos or stop using altogether...

 

[hematocritter]

How long after cocaine use it is safe to use clonidine?