Chicago Heroin v Hugs not Drugs

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Careful with that dentist visit. Don't know what its for, but you gotta watch out for drug interactions, esp if you're taking benzos with your h. (Which I like to do myself).
Now if its just a checkup or cleaning that's cool, but be safe, that's all.

Didn't have to worry about getting benzos added to my dope from the dentist, because I had already popped the benzos with the dope beforehand. Also, it was just a cleaning so I was just nodding my face off as a hot assistant dentist cleaned my teeth. Also, I was nodding a little harder than I thought I was going to, but luckily my dentist office gives you a pair of sunglasses to wear while they clean your teeth because they have a bright ass light right above you so the dentist can see what they're doing as they are cleaning your teeth. Thanks to the sunglasses, she couldn't see my droopy ass eyes/nodding face. Being that fucked up made the appointment go by extremely fast too. Best dental appointment I've had, ever.


This is kind of OT......but I'm really interested in the PCP market in chicago. Out west it's "Mint leaves"/"Leaf"/'Water'/'Wal-Wal" etc. Do you guys run across this in your daily travels? Everyone I've talked to in the "Holy City" says the spots are further down by Ogden Ave.....is there some small area that has kind of cornered the market? I hear it used to be everywhere, but I had been looking for years until I found one of my phone connects who was willing to drive with me over there and help me cop a couple bags. It came in bulgey tin foils and was some kind of leaf mixed with what smelled like very strong nail polish remover. I approached it carefully. The first bag was incrementally consumed in small hits and I didn't feel much except a slight dissassociative feeling. The second bag I rolled into a small joint and sucked down the whole thing to the head.....this was more pronounced.....a smooth k like feeling that lasted around 30-40 minutes. At no point did I ever feel manic, paranoid, violent, or anything like that. Interesting experience that I plan on repeating when I get some steady bread. Anyone else have anecdotes relating to this?
I know they have some PCP out west... i hear its way bigger on the south side.. but yeah, you can find it at a few spots.. its nothing like copping rocks/blows off every other block though.. no where near as prevalent/easy.

Won $100 at the casino so i went and copped a jab. High as hell, 6 blows left & I popped some lorazepam with the dope. Got my nod going strong right now. Dope and benzos are my all-time favorite combo, no question. Where's the team at tonight, Chicago?

Also, that's dumb saying "pure white dope is garbage" - if there is one thing I've learned when doing dope, color doesn't mean shit. (except for pink).. but everything is cut, even the "raw" so just because you see a little bit of pink vs not seeing the pink, the dormin is still there. Also, if its a bigger dealer who's going through 1000 or so caps a week, its hard not to get some pink specs in there.. that's a fucking lot of dope/dormin.

Went to one of my most used connects (his phone hasn't been working for a few days) and it was amazing how quick I was able to cop. Its usually at least a 15min wait.. today, I pulled up to where he said to be called, and when he said "They are right around the corner".. he wasn't lying (for once).. we all know in nig time right around the corner is AT LEAST 5 minutes. But the dude pulled up within a minute of me getting there. It was awesome.

TEAM NOD ASSEMBLE!
 
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Sounds like your two foils were pretty weak, SirNumbers. One bag should have had you well out of your gourd. We used to buy vials and shake up our own foils in the early 90's. I wouldn't say it used to be everywhere but there were certain areas on the west side that always had it.
 
That's funny, not 20 minutes ago I was just talking to a friend of mine about how I wish I knew where to buy PCP because although I know it exists in this state, I have never knowingly come across it/ had the opportunity to buy it. Good luck finding some, hopefully Chicago has more than Connecticut.
 
That's funny, not 20 minutes ago I was just talking to a friend of mine about how I wish I knew where to buy PCP because although I know it exists in this state, I have never knowingly come across it/ had the opportunity to buy it. Good luck finding some, hopefully Chicago has more than Connecticut.
Dude PCP is all over Hartford. But it comes in these black, eraser shaving looking flecks. One of the Puerto Ricans I used to buy coke off of lovee that shit and sold me a few grams of it instead of blow one time and told me I'd love it. Not knowing what to expect, I rolled a full blunt of straight dust and freaked the fuck out. Ended up watching ganglands on the history channel and crying for five or six hours because I was convinced my soul had been permanently separated from my body
 
Just responded to some dude on a different forum who was asking whether or not he should start doing heroin.. Here was my response.. Let me know if any of you guys feel like this analogy that I made up makes sense to any of you:

As a heroin user of 5 years.. don't start using heroin man. Everyone I know that uses wishes they had never started.

Here's how (even if you never shoot up & feel like you're extremely well educated on the subject AND understand how to avoid physical withdrawal) heroin will become a habit eventually..

Its like you've taken cold showers everyday for your entire life.. Then one day you figure out that if you pay a small amount of money for a very nice warm shower. Now you realize how great the warm shower is so everyday you take a cold shower you know yoo're missing out... and its so cheap to pay just a little bit to have a nice hot shower. Well, you rationalize to yourself, I can take a warm shower once a month and it will be a treat/wont cost hardly any money.. But then, you really enjoy it and its really cheap so you step it up to once a week. At this point you're enjoying yourself and the heat bill is still rather cheap. Well, now every time you take a cold shower you just wish you were taking a nice relaxing hot shower. Well, now you step up your use to 2-3 times a week and the bill is starting to add up. Not only are you taking hot showers way more frequently, but to get that same warmth, you are needing to step up the heat of the water so you're starting to use a ton of money on the warm water/using it extremely frequently. Finally, you decide fuck cold showers, I'm going to take warm ones EVERY DAY. Well, now you're constantly needing to increase the heat rather frequently to get that same effect and your bill is running wild and taking away a lot o money for other things. Now you're saying.. what the hell happened? I was fine taking cold showers everyday for most of my life.. but now you can't shake that feeling and you're stuck in the vicious cycle of taking hot showers everyday, but needing hotter and hotter water because your body is becoming tolerant of the warmth.

It happens to most that start to use heroin.. and once they go to the needle it gets 5x worse.. but even without using a needle, the obsession is still going strong.

So, if I were you, stick to not using so you don't have to have that feeling/obsession you're missing sometime that is so easily obtainable, but yet will begin to destroy everything good in your life.. and it creeps up on you man, it really does. No matter how smart/well-informed/how much will power you think you have.
 
^ That was actually a really good analogy.

I forgot what analogy chinky used for something a while back, but I was giving him credit for it for a minute. I'm drawing a blank on what it was about though.
 
That was a fucking long analogy...couldn't finish it...but yeah, good advice nonetheless. It's almost like thw question is, do I wanna fuck my life up good, forever? Cause in my experience, I won't ever forget how good dope feels, but I will easily forget how bad things get. I put years of clean time together, and still eventually wind up using. And i love it, despite everything I have to lose. House, job, wife, kids, self-respect, etc.

No offense meant about the analogy, OG, cause I like your shit in general...BTW posting on a phone sux.
Rolled up to a spot again today, after work, right after the CPD SUV got there. I was pissed. But just kept going and didnt go back. Thought about it a bit, then was glad he got there first. Cause otherwise I woulda been standing there with my dick in my hqnd saying "hello officer, I was just asking for directions" or some shit. Phone connect. Yeah, need that.
Anyone watching the Bulls game? Taj Gibson just dunked his shit on Bklyn.
 
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So you cop on foot northsideboy? Not in a car? I'm 90% positive you're white.. I'd be afraid I'd be sticking out like a sore thumb 20x more on foot than in a car.. at least in a car you can act like you're just passing through.. on foot though? Seems a bit more difficult. Especially if the address on your ID is no where near the west side.. its like, how the fuck did you end up over here in the largest open air drug market in the US, on your way to wherever the fuck which is at least a few miles away.

Idk, if it works for you, that's good.. but Id be more sketch on foot, cause when a narco rolls up they can just stop, jump out, and throw you tot he ground..at least in a car they have to light you up and you have to pull over.. giving you a little extra time/some cover when you're trying to stash it somewhere.. unlike the street where if they are wtching you a block down, they'll see you put the dope in a pocket, up your ass, etc.

But hey, whatever you have the best track record with, keep at it. Get yourself a fuckin phone connect though man.. its so incredibly safe/more consistent. And no offense taken, its the internet, and this is a board about fucking heroin... pretty much the last thing in the world that would (or at least SHOULD) offend me (or anyone else in the world) is my analogy on starting heroin.

God damn I've been nodding hard as hell tonight. Feels so fucking good. It sucks though, I've got a small habit going.. nothing compared to what I had in the past (pre-rehab habit), but still when I'm dry, I get that sickness (mild, but still) and I can't fucking stand it.. Can't be fucked trying to completely kick either.. dealing with that is just not something I wanna deal with. But hey I might give it a shot (have told myself I would a few times within the last couple months, but to no avail)... I'll definitely need some weed though. I feel like that'd really help. Speaking of which, I haven't smoked weed but ONE time in the last year-year and a half.. Used to be an everyday smoker for years.. oh well, that's what doing dope/getting a habit will do to you.. Who has money for an eighth when you could get a half a jab haha.

Edit; I have no fucking clue where these long ass posts are coming from... I never do this shit.. I guess I'm just THAT high where I'm just goin' with the flow spewing off whatever comes to mind.. feel free to skim through whatever the fuck I'm talking about because its really not all that important.
 
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Dude PCP is all over Hartford. But it comes in these black, eraser shaving looking flecks. One of the Puerto Ricans I used to buy coke off of lovee that shit and sold me a few grams of it instead of blow one time and told me I'd love it. Not knowing what to expect, I rolled a full blunt of straight dust and freaked the fuck out. Ended up watching ganglands on the history channel and crying for five or six hours because I was convinced my soul had been permanently separated from my body

Oh I know it's out there in Hartford for sure. Even where I live in the woods 15 minutes away from the actual city I hear older bitches talking about "getting but-ass naked" in dive bars and I've accidentally smoked weed that was dusted once or twice. I know some friends that have had similar experiences, but I've just never been offered it straight up to buy some. I don't have an actual coke dealer anymore (I just search it out at bars), and none of my dope guys have ever mentioned it. And except for copping dope up north or behind the rocks, I usually only hang out in the regular south end with polish dudes or downtown at bars once in a while, it's not like PCP is jumping out at me. Just haven't ever been able to find it, I'd totally buy some if I could. But it's not like I'm really making an effort to look for it either, so who knows.
 
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yeah,og but if your copping in a car they can certainly take your car and auction it,inpound it,then your really fuckef
 
That's kind of a good analogy, I guess
But imo a person who has never been there still won't get it, even if they think they do

You also forgot about the how you never ever know for sure how hot or cold the heat is gonna be
But the bill stays the same, even though you're never guaranteed anything when you step into that shower, as you might have put it

I always thought of it as just like a warm blanket that just falls over you, covering you from all the cold in your life

Edit: Just last night I was in a thread about a person asking whether to iv h for the first time with hardly any tolerance and no dependecy what so ever, she just had some pain her arm

I highly suggested against her idea of going out and trying h to kill the pain in her arm
Most of the posters told her the pain in her arm will be minuscule after copping an full opiate antagonist dependency, and she was talking about iv'ing for the first time

But she just didn't get it, and I didn't either before my stint, but I tried to tell her no one starts out planning on being a junkie and especially doesn't start out on opiates main lining fucking heroin for there first time

First time I got the opioid high was when I took a 5mg perc way back in the day when I had my wisdom teeth taken out
I was itching and nodding like crazy all day long, but I didn't have a clue it was basically the same buzz I got from eventually shooting dope years later and that you could gain a dependency no matter how or when it happened

Tldr: imo though if you haven't been really dope sick before you're just not going to get it and think to yourself, oh why can't they just stop and be better the next day or so...
 
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Yeah, that's one hell of a warm blanket. It sucks how they always shut your heat off and break all your windows open just as soon as you decide you're sick of using that blanket so much.
 
Maybe that's why Chicago is such a huge open air market for dat warm blanket
It's always so cold there, no body wants to wd in the winter, makes it a lot harder ime cause fiends are always cold

Unless of course they have that warm blanket they can hide under, for at the most, just one day, if that...
 
stepped away for a bit, watched the end of the Bulls game. They won, despite themselves.
All the analogies, Bill you're right, they just ain't gonna get it. Some folks got their mind made up, some folks think they already know everything, some folks think I'm stronger than that, I'll never wind up doing _____ to get more. I know myself, when i was 15 and just reading about cool punk rock stars and whatnot, couldn't wait to try dope. And then I did, a few years later, and then I loved it. I know people that tried it and didn't like it, and stayed away from it. But most of us that have that thing, whatever it is, that like it, wind up one day thinking how did i get here? And i do think it's true that you can't go back and change it. you can be sober and clean for the rest of your life, people do it, i know some of them, but they are still changed forever deep inside. that's what you can't explain to some kid that thinks they already know it all.
anyway, night of long posts.

To OG's questions:
Yeah I'm more like 100% white. And I get it, you like getting served in the car. Feels safer. I got my first real habit in the early 90's in NYC, which was on foot, everywhere. Walk up, stand in line, get served. Walk away. Chicago's hot spots got a car-based highway-driving suburban white customer base, to a large degree. But for the sake of argument, the whole thing is a numbers game, imo. Get in, get served, get out. Hope it ain't your time to be there when officer friendly is waiting. You think high-volume car serving spots are really safer? The more traffic the more obvious, the more pressure on LEO to shut them down, or at least fuck with them? They ain't sitting there spotting cars getting served, and pull them over a block away? Watching them on the blue light cameras? White folks driving around don't look outta place cause they're passing through on their way to....the library? When their license says Arlington Heights and they at, I guess i can't name corners, right? Yeah, they gotta light you and pull you over, and say you swallow it, but they saw you pick up, right, and they pissed. And you wind up with bags on you, somehow. And like Chef said, goodbye car, hello County. A grand to get your car back, or something, plus daily fees, after they fucked it up, towing it in park or some shit, and tossing the shit outta it first, fucking up the interior for fun.
i'm just rambling, like you said, it's the internet dope forum, no harm meant.
So yeah, I'm more comfortable driving to a relatively quiet spot, parking, leaving my car, walk, check it out, cop, walk back to the car. It's still a risk. I can still swallow it, tapes are a little different story. I've done car copping, same risk in my book. I used to use a middleman, he'd bring it to me. A good guy as far as that goes. he got busted. Again, playing the percentages. If I had a phone connect, I'd certainly stay the fuck outta the hood.
And your right about giving up weed. Early on at one point, I stopped smoking, drinking, etc. and was just using dope. i thought for a second, hey this is healthier! Then i realized, wtf am i thinking....and kept doing dope.
Ramble, ramble, ramble ......
 
Maybe that's why Chicago is such a huge open air market for dat warm blanket
It's always so cold there, no body wants to wd in the winter, makes it a lot harder ime cause fiends are always cold

Unless of course they have that warm blanket they can hide under, for at the most, just one day, if that...
Kicking during the winter vs summer only makes a difference for the homeless.. I don't think it makes a difference if you're kicking in the winter vs. the summer as long as you have a home. If you're homeless, I think there is a big difference, but not if you have shelter.. Doesn't make a difference then.
 
Oh I know it's out there in Hartford for sure. Even where I live in the woods 15 minutes away from the actual city I hear older bitches talking about "getting but-ass naked" in dive bars and I've accidentally smoked weed that was dusted once or twice. I know some friends that have had similar experiences, but I've just never been offered it straight up to buy some. I don't have an actual coke dealer anymore (I just search it out at bars), and none of my dope guys have ever mentioned it. And except for copping dope up north or behind the rocks, I usually only hang out in the regular south end with polish dudes or downtown at bars once in a while, it's not like PCP is jumping out at me. Just haven't ever been able to find it, I'd totally buy some if I could. But it's not like I'm really making an effort to look for it either, so who knows.

Yeah I feel you, i never cold copped PCP. It was always through a phone connect. But I haven't used it or sought it ought since then, decided it just wasn't for me at the time. In fact, I think I ended up throwing out what I had left after that incident. But I would be interested in giving it another try now that I've matured a bit and explored a little more as far as psychoactive substances go.

Recently my dealer offered me the most tantalizing prospect. He said if I buy car insurance for him under my name for his car which he will pay for he'll give me free dope. The only problem is I don't have a drivers license at the moment:(. Considered trying to use a fake id because free dope is too good to turn up. Fuckk.
 
my analogy for heroin is like sex to masturbation. you were content for some time with just beating it. yeah shits good and all, then you have sex. once you start having regular sex, who needs to Jack it? then after a while plain sex gets old, you need to spice things up to still get off. to still get that excitement and pleasure and a good bust. then take that great sex away, jacking it doesn't cut it anymore. as Nikki sixx said "once you've tasted excess, everything else just seems bland."
 
Kicking during the winter vs summer only makes a difference for the homeless.. I don't think it makes a difference if you're kicking in the winter vs. the summer as long as you have a home. If you're homeless, I think there is a big difference, but not if you have shelter.. Doesn't make a difference then.

Yeah I guess you're right
But still just knowing that I could be under that warm summer sun with a breeze, a girl, and a joint always helped me, mentally and psychically, stay away from opiates a lot more

Instead of knowing it's going to be cold as ice outside the next morning and the day after that, with snow on the ground, that just made me want to go hide under that blanket more so than if the sun was shining outside
 
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