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cire113

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What exactly is Fear?

Im trying to really understand it from conscious and subconscious perspectives..

It seems a lot of my fears are buried deep down on a subsconsiocus level and they are just automatically activated by my body through conditioning and physiological patterns/responses to external situations/stimuli..


For example; When approaching to speak with someone I do not know.. Feeling "fear"; The overwhelming fear causes no approach to be made. Thus reinforcing the fear even stronger.... its a vicious cycle


Is the "fear" a hardwired response in all humans?


Ive noticed that the feelings i get form Fear are the exact same feelings i get from excitement; so what exactly is changing here my perspective?

Facing fear the only way to overcome it?


Lots more questions not enough time
 
it's a hard wired response to an extent. You can overcome fear by facing your fears, psychologically. Once you find out it's not so bad then it gets easier. After a while you no longer have that fear.

Example: So talking to girls, go up and talk to girls, just about anything, say something nice about them and be social, this isn't the way to get girls but it's good practice. After a while you will be comfortable talking to them and can adapt your approach.

fear and excitement are similar, probably triggering of NE in the body causing that flight or fight mode.

Facing it isn't the only way, you can rationalize it out in a similar manner as mentioned it above. Say, that is just not true, no one cares, it doesn't matter, i won't die, things like that.
 
nastypoker said:
Watch this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enzNmWHLGhY&feature=plcp
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Basically this... ^

Fear is good in some cases, but in most, it is entirely pointless. Being fearful of falling off a cliff when you're standing on the edge is a useful bodily response, but being afraid of talking to a stranger, or approaching a female, or raising your hand in class-- that is pointless. What are you afraid of? Probably that you'll say or do something stupid and the other person will look down on you. Well, that's an issue of self-esteem, not really fear. Workout, read books, educate yourself, and simply interact with people knowing that everybody else is, to a certain extent, also scared. Everybody is human. Once you let go of insecurities, anxieties, etc... social life becomes much easier. That's all it is: letting go.
 
I just downloaded a book called Feel your fears and face them anyway...


Easier said than done LOL..

But its true most fear is made up in our minds;
 
The way you phrase it makes me think you're speaking about "fear" as referencing a 'bad trip'. The way you're defining "Fear" is like a mix of anxiety and fear of anxiety (preemptively expecting anxious encounters). The psychologists will prescribe you barbiturates/benzodiazepines or you can just deal with it and it'll eventually remedy itself.
 
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^wish you were my Dr.

I think it's clear what the 'Fear' is but fear in general is less understood. I think OP experiences the 'fight or flight mechanism triggering chemicals to be released which feel like excitement/anxiety depending on how you view them. Like a psychedelic rush can be either really anxious or incredibly exciting depending on your mindset.
 
Fear is linked to survival. In the modern world we have a lot more imaginary fears than we do real ones from nature.
 
RobotRipping said:
^wish you were my Dr.

I think it's clear what the 'Fear' is but fear in general is less understood. I think OP experiences the 'fight or flight mechanism triggering chemicals to be released which feel like excitement/anxiety depending on how you view them. Like a psychedelic rush can be either really anxious or incredibly exciting depending on your mindset.
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Indeed.
 
Fear is an instinctual impulse that notifies you of danger or threats to your survival. In pre-historic times, fear had a real place in response to the natural world and all the dangers that surrounded humans. In modern times, fears are more psychologically rooted but trigger the same survival responses.

If your body is giving you fear signals to situations that you don't think warrant fear, then it's because earlier on (usually childhood) your body/mind experienced a trauma that programmed this behaviour. Such an aspect of fear is more obsessive in nature. For example, being afraid of approaching someone you don't know could stem from being rejected earlier on in life by one's parents or peers. It almost always goes back to childhood.

In any case... the point would not be to debunk the fear itself. Fear is just an indicator. That would be like trying to debunk hunger, thirst, or the need to breathe. Fear itself is not the problem. You would have to debunk the thought, habit, or perception that is causing the fear. If your body responds abnormally with fear in certain situations then you have to address the programmed reaction to those situations.
 
Foreigner said:
Fear is an instinctual impulse that notifies you of danger or threats to your survival. In pre-historic times, fear had a real place in response to the natural world and all the dangers that surrounded humans. In modern times, fears are more psychologically rooted but trigger the same survival responses.

If your body is giving you fear signals to situations that you don't think warrant fear, then it's because earlier on (usually childhood) your body/mind experienced a trauma that programmed this behaviour. Such an aspect of fear is more obsessive in nature. For example, being afraid of approaching someone you don't know could stem from being rejected earlier on in life by one's parents or peers. It almost always goes back to childhood.

In any case... the point would not be to debunk the fear itself. Fear is just an indicator. That would be like trying to debunk hunger, thirst, or the need to breathe. Fear itself is not the problem. You would have to debunk the thought, habit, or perception that is causing the fear. If your body responds abnormally with fear in certain situations then you have to address the programmed reaction to those situations.
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Haha out of sheer curiosity what is your profession?
 
Look into it more, and you'll realize practically all of modern society is based on, and operates on, fear. Fear of an imagined result, or fear of the lack of an imagined result.


Fear is the single most driving motivator behind most people. (myself included, of course--though I'm constantly working on it).
 
i would say that speaking to someone you wouldn't be feeling fear you would be feeling anxiety. mainly i would say that you would be thinking about something that you fear rather than feeling it. as you progress more and more down a path that you want to take to overcome that fear then you will always have the fear but your perspective on thinking about these situations can change. the voice you have that tells you why you can't do something that produces anxiety or fear will always be there. the voice can be quietened through this process.
as i believe we are all hardwired to these emotions. these emotions are there to save us and thinking about doing something that can be alien to us will always make us weary. it is this weariness that creates the thought process that eventually can turn into an emotion like anxiety or fear etc.
without these emotions we wouldn't survive. it keeps us on our toes so we can be prepared for what a situation can or may rise to.
imagine driving on a busy road and an animal comes in front of your car and you swerve. you have a very quick response to this. you do this without even realizing. it is a super quick response. your heart races and the blood rushed to your legs. the emotion that accompanies this will help you make a conscious decision. but 1 second before your conscious f what is going on your subconscious and nervous system does all the work. it makes sense seen that is has been this way for thousands if not millions of years. we wouldn't be here without it basically.
 
casualuser said:
Fear is merely a lack of understanding.
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A deer sights a wolf, it runs in flee, for it understands if it stays it will surely be eaten. The fear has survived her, another day it shall live. Fear keeps you alive, a force driven by the understanding of what is upon you. If you had not known what was upon you, you would not be afraid. Fear is understanding.
 
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