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ALTERNATIVE THEORIES V: The Build-a-bear Workshop

Mariposa said:
So, everybody... tomorrow is the 21st, the end of the Mayan calendar! 11:11 AM GMT marks the Winter Solstice. I may or may not be asleep when it happens my time (3:11 AM). Most likely I will set an alarm for 3 AM, just to have one last bowl of the kindest green if it is the end. ;)

And though I've joked about it for years, I really don't think anything of import is going to happen. There might be a few wackjobs acting out. But on the whole, I really do think it's going to be anti-climactic. I do have a bug out bag with extra clothes, map, compass, spare phone, my car has a full tank, I have some cash on hand and a supply of water/food/first aid/booze, but those are things I would have anyway. If there's one thing I have learned from being born and raised in hurricane country, it's to be prepared. My only weapons are pepper spray, (very good) kitchen knives, a baseball bat and a 9 iron. The axe we use to chop firewood (we've got a good supply of that too) is easily accessible.

Some of my family members - the same ones who tripped and built a Y2K bunker - are up in the mountains 'just in case'. I wish it were just an excuse for them to take the day off or a long weekend, but I do come from slightly crazy stock. ;)

What I am wondering is how this will affect people who genuinely believe - to the point of being psychologically unstable - that something enormous is going to happen. I think NASA has ruled out Nibiru or an asteroid. The world has had a crazy month with the shootings and fiscal crisis, etc. Some people really take that sort of thing to heart. I know two people who ARE genuine believers, both took off to the country today. :\ Neither is the type who would go batshit in a catastrophic situation, just a case of watching too many youtube videos combined with a little eccentricity.

But if the world does end - know that I've enjoyed engaging in various levels of discourse with most of you. I hope that this mark in time (and make no mistake, it is significant to many) brings a new level of peace and consciousness to the world.

See you on the flipside. ;)
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Unlike this 2012 Mayan shit, Y2K was a genuine threat. A friend of the family works for the CIA and 2 years leading up the Y2K the government was working frantically to update computer software in the military, stock exchanges, banks, and even the software in older nuclear weapons. During Y2K we had representatives in Russia, and they had representatives in America in case a missile launch occurred.
 
^ I never got that Y2K thing.. What dumbass makes software that would fuck itself up going from 1999 to 2000? It makes no sense to me..
 
The "tallboy bomb," an RAF bomb that weighed between 10,000 and 12,000lbs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tallboy_bombs
Most large Allied World War II aircraft bombs had very thin skins to maximize the weight of explosive a bomber could carry—this was an improvement on the early part of the war, when the explosive content of British bomb designs was low.

To be able to penetrate the earth (or hardened targets) without breaking apart, the casing of the Tallboy had to be strong. Each was cast in one piece of high-tensile steel that would enable it to survive the impact before detonation.
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It was termed an "Earthquake Bomb" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthquake_bomb
Wallis's idea was to drop a large, heavy bomb with a hard armoured tip at supersonic speed so that it penetrated the ground — an effect comparable to a ten-ton bullet being fired straight down.
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I have no trouble believing that something like that could pentrated structures with ease.
But...you can't compare that with a plastic nosed hollow aluminum jetliner.

Even though the Mitsubishi Zero flew at slower speeds, max 350mph, it did have an advantage the 767 lacked in terms of pentration: It was a single engine piston plane. It had a steel engine block right in the nose. I still think that at mitsubishi dive speeds it was unlikely to pentrate steel on its own, but it had a better chance than the soft nosed 767.
 
It didn't have to cut through them.. it just had to apply enough force to break them.. easily done by a passenger jet flying hundreds of miles an hour.. you talk of aluminium like it isn't solid.. it is.
 
The steel used in building structures is not brittle and easily broken. The steel used in things like swords had a certain brittleness to it because hard and rigid steels hold a much sharper edge. Structural steel is going to bend a great deal before it breaks.

The aluminum used in aircraft is fairly thin gauge stuff. It encases a frame that creates aerodynamic, lightweight hollow strucures that allow room for passenger seating, cockpit, and fuel storage etc. The jet engines are the most "solid" things on the airplane. Everything else is quite flimsy.

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The aluminum used in aircraft is fairly thin gauge stuff. It encases a frame that creates aerodynamic, lightweight hollow strucures that allow room for passenger seating, cockpit, and fuel storage etc. The jet engines are the most "solid" things on the airplane. Everything else is quite flimsy.
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I showed this post to a friend of mines dad (who works as an engineer at Boeing) and he literally chuckled at the flimsy part. Thanks for entertaining him with your ignorance brutha, it shows that you're at least good for shits and giggles. ;)
 
freddy47 said:
I showed this post to a friend of mines dad (who works as an engineer at Boeing) and he literally chuckled at the flimsy part. Thanks for entertaining him with your ignorance brutha, it shows that you're at least good for shits and giggles. ;)
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Wow...
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A symbol of strength...skyscrapers, you best get outs da way cause it's gonna fuck you up with its plastic nose!
 
MFR.. are you an engineer or architect?

No?

Then what you actually know about this is fuck all.

1000s of architects and engineers have studied 9/11 and come to the same conclusions..
 
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rickolasnice said:
MFR.. are you and engineer or architect?

No?

Then what you actually know about this is fuck all.

1000s of architects and engineers have studied 9/11 and come to the same conclusions..
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"b-but the YouTube videos say . . ."

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he's a rocket surgeon, remember?

this happens to be the precise one to hold the exclusive knowledge that airplanes are actually made of paper mache and balsa wood, and buildings are made of a pure, dense mix of diamondomium, unobtanium and magicalfairybum.
 
^ Very small handful of the groups.. compared to the thousands of others..

And much of their claims or theories were dis proven and / or wrong.

I can't remember where but i saw a list of literally 10s of thousands of architects and engineers names that found nothing suspicious about the impact and then the collapse.

http://www.populartechnology.net/2009/06/debunking-911-conspiracy-theories.html

That site has a lot of videos and links to papers done by real scientists / engineers / architects.
 
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rickolasnice said:
^ Very small handful of the groups.. compared to the thousands of others..

And much of their claims or theories were dis proven and / or wrong.

I can't remember where but i saw a list of literally 10s of thousands of architects and engineers names that found nothing suspicious about the impact and then the collapse.

http://www.populartechnology.net/2009/06/debunking-911-conspiracy-theories.html

That site has a lot of videos and links to papers done by real scientists / engineers / architects.
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You are an idiot. Those mentioned by MFR ARE real scientist/engineers/architects. Then after all the criticism regarding proving/supporting truther arguments with videos, you link to a page with a bunch of videos......... Complete fail.
 
^If you cared to scroll down past the videos there are some papers. Some I think are peer reviewed some not. Read before you insult dude.

All the videos seem to have references to scientific reports, articles and papers. Which is more than most truther sites can claim.
 
superelephant said:
You are an idiot. Those mentioned by MFR ARE real scientist/engineers/architects. Then after all the criticism regarding proving/supporting truther arguments with videos, you link to a page with a bunch of videos......... Complete fail.
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Just because they are real scientist/engineers/architects, or anyone of any profession for that matter, does not mean that they are to be trusted morally or psychologically by default because of their accreditation's.
 
freddy47 said:
^If you cared to scroll down past the videos there are some papers. Some I think are peer reviewed some not. Read before you insult dude.

All the videos seem to have references to scientific reports, articles and papers. Which is more than most truther sites can claim.
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I had to click 6 of those links before I found one of even a modicum of merit. That's complete fucking fail. You should probably refrain from basing the point of your post on the assumption that the scrutinizing individual didn't actually scrutinize. 8)


panic in paradise said:
Just because they are real scientist/engineers/architects, or anyone of any profession for that matter, does not mean that they are to be trusted morally or psychologically by default because of their accreditation's.
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that's a nice completely general blanket statement you've got there.

rickolasnice said:
Fixed.
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don't quote me, then delete everything you wished to label as fail and replace that content with dots, then call that fail......I'll say it again, you're an idiot.
 
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