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I was over it after I saw the cops. Plus I took a sub that morning so I was not sick and it was not urgent. If I really wanted to I could have tried other corners I know just figured , I'm a little superstitious, that it wasn't my day.
 
Personally, I never gave up until I had my shit....Maybe you really wanna stop with the dope. It's a miserable life...If you wanna keep goin with it, take care of business and find it!

It's a shit life...leaves you with nothing in the end....
 
BlueHues said:
Personally, I never gave up until I had my shit....Maybe you really wanna stop with the dope. It's a miserable life...If you wanna keep goin with it, take care of business and find it!

It's a shit life...leaves you with nothing in the end....
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couldn't sayit better myself. in the end you either die or hit rock bottom and it leaves you with nothing at the end.. for me i guess it wasn't my turn to die when i was overdosing in my car back in 06 when them fent. laced bags where all over the chi.. only reason i didn't die is when i went out i hunched over forward and was sounding off the car horn, so help came pretty damn quick, i had pulled over to a gas station cause i felt something was wrong, if i would of iv'd the stuff i pretty sure i would be dead too. the fck up part is even after all that i couldn't stop using.. now that i have been clean i think how crazy that is, and how much impact that would of had for the people that love me.. ialso notice just how much emotional i feel nowadays compared to before.. anyways just venting out .. nod on teamnod.. chef stay strong and fourthstreet same to you
 
^ Yeah it's weird when you get clean, after the first few days all these feelings and emotions start rushing back because the heroin has been numbing them out the whole time

One minute you could be crying over a peta commercial or laughing hysterically at nothing, feels good but then the paws come on and usually depression takes over for the first month or so and that's when it gets hard not to relapse

Good luck everyone trying to kick, I would always just try to think about the positive things in life and stuff I could have with out having to wake up every morning sick and constantly scheming on how to stay well

Music helps a lot also :]
 
Your right grinds,emotions coming up,that I havent felt in a while all part of getting clean,which im back on track,for now
 
Chitownrawboy said:
Yo chinky wouldnt let me show what im replying to on my phone but, i stopped at a walgreens twice today. Lol i rode out 3 times twice to south guy and once to west side.. Damn this drug is 100 percent meant to bang and you should with out a try do it.. However i am not endorsing it, the day after my friend hit me i've been hitting myself since every single day all i needed was that one first feeling and i was fully addicted! I know it doesent happen to everyone like that but i definotrly got pulled in lol

I realize you said,"I am not endorsing it" but in the same comment, you told him to try it! PLEASE, don't try it if you dont HAVE to. It has DEFINITLY been the demise of most people I know, myself, and people WAY stronger than myself. I have been on Suboxone for the last year and amazingly have been able to kick my habit. Even though I LOVED my habit (until I was knee deep in my IV habit), I certainly love life more without it. I am one of the lucky few who ever make it back from there and I am grateful every day. I'm not trying to get all preachy but PLEASE dont switch to IV-that goes for everyone. Chink, I am surprised you are still on this board after SO long( I remember you from like 5yrs ago) and the reason you are probably still here is because you have always had a level head and use common sense. I have always enjoyed your posts and hope to be reading them in the future, so please stick with insuffilation. :)
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Yea I dont see chink switching to Iv after this long and seeing how it took so many people down through it. There are some people that have the knowledge and will power not to do it and then there are those that have all that and do it anyways.
 
MyNamesJeremyS said:
Chitownrawboy said:
Yo chinky wouldnt let me show what im replying to on my phone but, i stopped at a walgreens twice today. Lol i rode out 3 times twice to south guy and once to west side.. Damn this drug is 100 percent meant to bang and you should with out a try do it.. However i am not endorsing it, the day after my friend hit me i've been hitting myself since every single day all i needed was that one first feeling and i was fully addicted! I know it doesent happen to everyone like that but i definotrly got pulled in lol

I realize you said,"I am not endorsing it" but in the same comment, you told him to try it! PLEASE, don't try it if you dont HAVE to. It has DEFINITLY been the demise of most people I know, myself, and people WAY stronger than myself. I have been on Suboxone for the last year and amazingly have been able to kick my habit. Even though I LOVED my habit (until I was knee deep in my IV habit), I certainly love life more without it. I am one of the lucky few who ever make it back from there and I am grateful every day. I'm not trying to get all preachy but PLEASE dont switch to IV-that goes for everyone. Chink, I am surprised you are still on this board after SO long( I remember you from like 5yrs ago) and the reason you are probably still here is because you have always had a level head and use common sense. I have always enjoyed your posts and hope to be reading them in the future, so please stick with insuffilation. :)
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yeah man as much as i want to try it, just once.. i know i prolly never will and that kinda sucks knowing it. i always thought like, when im finally ableto give it up and quit, i would have someone hit me as a last hurrah. but with dope being so easy to gte here, who am iu to say that it owulod really be the last time, when i dont need any connects and can just go get it off the street. then i also thought that if i did do it as a last hurrah, that for some fucked up reason i would end up ODing
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Yea I dont see chink switching to Iv after this long and seeing how it took so many people down through it. There are some people that have the knowledge and will power not to do it and then there are those that have all that and do it anyways.
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yeah man im at 9 or 10 people i know hwo have died from ODs and all of them are from the needle. and like i said some of them snorted pills and dope for years and within months of switching to shooting they die and i also know someone who ended up ODing first time they hit themselves alone, and was found with the needle still in his arm and everything laid out around him. mom found him when she called him to come eat dinner and he didnt respond and she only went up to his room to check cause his car was in the driveway/ otherwise it could have been hours or even til the next day when they would have found him. to me that shit is the scariest, like ODing wit hthe needle still in your arm and my mom finding me hours or even days later but been at home the whole time.
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^Nah, don't fuck with it, it's the same drug, basically the same high....You'vre been at this for years doin it your way and you're still out of prison and breathing! Other than the rush, it's pretty much the same exact thing 30 mins later, some people would disagree....But fuc k anyone who'd try to say you've "never really experienced dope" because you never shot it!
 
trust me man i know, ive heard everything that could have possibly been said..and people who i run into that i havent sen inb a while are always amazed and cant understand how i havent moved on and tell me how they are glad they did it but wish they didnt and good for me and for me to never do it and some people dont believe that i havent even tried it, not even once and ive been doin it so long.and that if they hear anyone try and hit me that they would beat their ass or they would beat my as if i gave in cause its just been way to long and ifi havent done it already theres no real point...

like people i know literally want to like "bodyguard" me from it
 
chinky said:
trust me man i know, ive heard everything that could have possibly been said..and people who i run into that i havent sen inb a while are always amazed and cant understand how i havent moved on and tell me how they are glad they did it but wish they didnt and good for me and for me to never do it and some people dont believe that i havent even tried it, not even once and ive been doin it so long.and that if they hear anyone try and hit me that they would beat their ass or they would beat my as if i gave in cause its just been way to long and ifi havent done it already theres no real point...

like people i know literally want to like "bodyguard" me from it
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How long have you been doing it for?
 
opiates for maybe 8years but only as a weekend user with no addiction and dope somewhere around 3 1/2-4 with 2 years using 3-4x a week
 
I think people who tell you they regret moving to the needle are just jealous. Its the same drug just a differant ROA. Personally I think snorting has a nicer feeling rush. Its just the differance in BA makes it way to expensive for me to snort enough to get high. I think thats why most people make the switch to shooting. And honestly thats a symptom of a lack of self control which is a deadly problem to have with a heroin addiction. That is why I think it seems like more people die from injecting. They where the hardcore out of control users to begin with. If they hadnt had access to needles they would have died from snorting it once there habit became large enough. Well thats my theory at least.
 
crimsonjunk said:
I think people who tell you they regret moving to the needle are just jealous. Its the same drug just a differant ROA. Personally I think snorting has a nicer feeling rush. Its just the differance in BA makes it way to expensive for me to snort enough to get high. I think thats why most people make the switch to shooting. And honestly thats a symptom of a lack of self control which is a deadly problem to have with a heroin addiction. That is why I think it seems like more people die from injecting. They where the hardcore out of control users to begin with. If they hadnt had access to needles they would have died from snorting it once there habit became large enough. Well thats my theory at least.
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I agree with most of this, except for the part about the same users dying whether they turned to IV or continued snorting. I don't want to downplay how dangerous it is with any ROA since you never know the strength or what's in it, but IVing definitely amplifies those dangers.

I get a mild rush from snorting dope, and I only like a mild rush from IVing dope so I can't say that I prefer IV over snorting because of the rush, because I don't like intense rushes from doing bigger shots.

I have a theory that 6-MAM (which is responsible for a lot of the euphoria from heroin) lasts longer when administered nasally, since it probably breaks down to morphine really fast when IV'd. That's why I find the high from IV heroin to be a lot more similar to the morphine high than sniffing dope is to morphine. I don't find morphine to be that euphoric so therefore I find the high from sniffing heroin to be more euphoric than the high from IVing it.

If money wasn't an issue then I would love to stick to sniffing dope. Unfortunately I rarely have enough money on me to get enough dope to get me high if I sniffed it, so I've been IVing it. The only thing I like about the rush from IVing dope is that it's like an indicator that I'm going to be high right then and there. The feeling itself isn't that great to me, and since it lasts for like 7 seconds it's not that significant. It's more the going from sick --> high within seconds of injecting that makes it more appealing.
 
I used like snorting dope a lot, I think it may last longer and possibly may be more euphoric, but I ever since I started shooting, I think I snorted some like 1 time, literally! So I can't really make a comparison. I also did that 3-5 day a week thing in the beginning for awhile and felt shitty on the off days, I felt it pulling me in! Once I started shooting it, it immediately became a daily thing and made me go absolutely crazy for it! It became bigger than me, bigger than life itself! I was still dealing acid and x back then so I had a built in way to get the money at first....but I got sloppy, fucked that all up and ended up doing 6 months in jail for dealing....

When I got out, I had 6 years of probabtion and a six year suspended sentence....I started to shoot dope again but ended up on methadone because it really seemed like the only thing that was gonna prevent me from getting another felony and really getting jammed in the legal system....I was on methadone from 22-25 years old, and I managed to kick methadone and stay completely "clean" from all drugs and alcohol for a couple of years! Then I smoked weed for a year without using anything else...

A friend of mine who was clean off dope too suggested we get a bundle and we both instantly had habits and we were right back in that life! and I've been a lot more fortunate than a lot of people I've known that started shooting dope...I've seen normal kids from good families with college degrees completely fall apart within a year to where nobody will have anything to with them anymore! I'm going on a lecture here, but if you guys are using dope 4-5 days a week and going back and forth between shooting and snorting, shit can go downhill quick! Of course, we all know this..sorry to ramble!
 
^ Yea snorting definitely lasts longer and keeps the withdrawals from starting as early as they do with IVing it. That's why most IV users have to use everyday. With snorting I can dose in the morning, be straight all day, and won't get sick until the following night. With IVing I'm feeling withdrawals less than 24 hours after my last shot. I can easily skip a day with snorting, but no way with IVing.
 
I think it's the rush that ends up getting IV users to OD. Everyone I know that does shoot always talks about the rush. There is no way to take less once you've dosed regardless of ROA but, as a snorter I'm just trying to get high and I can always just do a little lore to get there. IV users it seems are always chasing the rush and I think that's why they're more likely to OD. I believe that the rush is really what separates the two ROAs.
 
WTF y no email yet and story post yall modz can move

I hadn't done heron since Wednesday, but that day i had my phone connect meet me at da conserv and give me 4 bags n den meet me off da tip off da OP later dat day after I eat at one of da World Famous letus entertain u resturants (so a total of 7 bagz, I'm a snorta btw and I usu try to stick to doin blows erry otha day b/c da big harm reduca Chinky reccomendz it[much respect much luv to dat cat but BTW, i've done a lot of raw and bra, altho it's prob better for ur nose raw isn't worth the money u can get way higher off of regular bagz - but ur gonna hurt ur nose rite- dats y u a harm reducing motha fucka doe]), my phone connnect sells to me in twisted off lil baggies like u'd buy loud in, ya kno
Also let me prefice my story by saying i hav like not much benzo tolerence since i occassionally hit up dat K-town pharmacy spot for xanax barz n when i do i only get jus one bar or a half.
N e wayz, so yestaday I started feelin dope sick n was pukin a lil, ya kno da sickness bla bla:
TO DA POINT OF DA STORY:
A dude i met reminded me dat one of da corna spots by a non-descript area is da best in da city, and i had copped a single bag there on two occasions recently, so I decided I'd get two xanax barz, I immediately popped em unda my tounge n walked 2 dat aforesaid suggested fire spot on da way back to the El to grab 4 bagz.
And let me jus say dem 4 bagz was *FIRE FIRE FIRE*(btw the word fire is lame, but it's the lingo of BL, so I'll use it 2 fit in LULZ), i did one immediately, at da conserv at like 3pm and it got me feelin great, and my CTA transit card transfer was bout 2 expire on the transfers.
So i get home like a few hours later, i think I bust open another bag, dont' really remember cuz i was nodding so hard i guess, I was eatin a lot of food too cuz i hadn't eatn much in the last couple of dats, so i'm chillin at my crib nodding out, and da next thing i know it's late as fuck - like 2am - and i'm still decently high and i notice that the thing i broke down my dope on was spilled on the floor and it still looked like there was a 3rd a bag on there, so I was like i'm jus gonna save it for anotha day cuz I gotta drive tomarrow mornin earlier and it'd b kinda pointless jus to do a lil then.
Anyway those bags are fire as fuck. One and some partial of another bag got more more blasted than 7 fuckin bags from my phone connect - i knew his shit was shitty -
So yall who use phone connects, fuck dem guys, i've used them many times, eventually they always start pushin u garbage, its their game. (Granted i had done 2 xanax bars too, hmmm) what do yall think of this?
So my question is mainly for da big dawg Chinky, but also da rest of yall cool postin cats too:
Should I do more blows today or no? - Since i still got 2 mo bags here and like 1/3rd of that spilled one that i dont even remember opening.
 
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