I've snorted heroin once, smoked it once, and injected it once just to try each method. Pretty soon I'd like to shoot up and so far this forum has been fairly helpful but I'm honestly kinda lost. The parts that are throwing me for a loop are about the cottons, whether I should tie up higher or lower on my bicep, etc. Basically I'm looking for a rookie's guide to safely slamming dope at Sasquatch with my girlfriend. Any help at all would be very appreciated, thanks for your time!
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Heroin First time injecting heroin on my own, i need help please
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Someone will give you a better answer. But my two cents is: I used my Lower Bicep or up above my wrist on my forearm(That worked best). I always used Cotton balls or Micro pads things my friend gave me. But man injecting is honestly I terrible road your always gunna be chasing that amazing rush...
The only advice I can give would be the seemingly obvious; if it is your first time (as well as your girl's), make sure that you do so at separate times, at least let enough lapse so that if something goes wrong, one of you is in the right frame of mind.
Sorry to sound nitpicky, and not being able to contribute to your question (not a needle or H guy), but even if overbearing, it is a legitimate suggestion.
Either way, good luck and be safe %)
Sorry to sound nitpicky, and not being able to contribute to your question (not a needle or H guy), but even if overbearing, it is a legitimate suggestion.
Either way, good luck and be safe %)
rocknroll702
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help would be dont do it - its not safe and too many deathly things can occur we dont wanna lose any more bluelighters 
help would be dont do it - its not safe and too many deathly things can occur we dont wanna lose any more bluelighters
Well, of course.
However, abstention isn't usually a harm reduction option, because if someone wants to do something they will.
Just KNOW the dangers and possible outcomes of what you are doing, know how to reduce negative possibilities, and have a plan for if one of those possibilities becomes an actuality.
Thanks for the replies guys=] I very well understand the dangers of opiate abuse, I appreciate your guys' concerns, however, I intend to do it and I'd just like some advice, a general set of guidelines or something like that. For example, wtf are the cotton balls even for? Please and thanks
Znegative
Bluelight Crew
Okay, I'll write a guide since I doubt youll be persuades, you might as well do it right.
1.poor you're smack into a spoon
2.draw up about 20 units of water, I often used bottled water (Poland spring, it just seems fresher)
3.spray the water you drew up with you're syringe onto the dope. Pull the plunger out of the syringe and stir the solution until its well dissolved. It the plunger back in the syringe.
4. Take a q-tip, and pull off a small piece, about the size of 1/4 of a pea. Roll it into a tight little ball and throw it into the spoon on top of the heroin solution. The cotton should swell.
5.stick the point of you're syringe into the cotton, and pull up on the plunger. You should be able to draw back up 20units. If you came back with 15, or less you used too big of a cotton.
6. If you use a tourniquet, put it above the crook of your arm, not too high up. Flex your muscle, your big vein should pop up.
7.insert the syringe beveled edge up at a very shallow angle into the vein. Once you pierce the skin pull up. This will create a vacuum so that when you hit the vein, the blood will just flood up the barrel, and you won't have to worry about slipping out of the vein while registering (drawing up you're blood).you might have to push in a bit deeper or adjust the angle of the syringe to hit the vein. This is not ideal, so you should try to visualize the needle in relation to the vein so you don't go through it. However once you hit the vein and the blood shoots up your syringe, loosen the tourniquet.
8.with steady hands draw back a bit more so that you know you're still in the vein, as it might have slipped out while loosening the tourniquet. IMO tourniquets or more of a hindrance than a help when your basilic vein still works, for this reason. If you're not using a tourniquet you can just inject once the blood runs up the barrel, otherwise you better register a little bit more to make sure you didn't slip out.
This technique of creating a vacuum really helped me out when I first started injecting, as the main problem I always had was keeping the syringe in the vein while registering. IMO, as I said above, tourniquets really aren't necessary unless you have very small veins, or have a lot of meat on your arms. Hopefully this helps.
1.poor you're smack into a spoon
2.draw up about 20 units of water, I often used bottled water (Poland spring, it just seems fresher)
3.spray the water you drew up with you're syringe onto the dope. Pull the plunger out of the syringe and stir the solution until its well dissolved. It the plunger back in the syringe.
4. Take a q-tip, and pull off a small piece, about the size of 1/4 of a pea. Roll it into a tight little ball and throw it into the spoon on top of the heroin solution. The cotton should swell.
5.stick the point of you're syringe into the cotton, and pull up on the plunger. You should be able to draw back up 20units. If you came back with 15, or less you used too big of a cotton.
6. If you use a tourniquet, put it above the crook of your arm, not too high up. Flex your muscle, your big vein should pop up.
7.insert the syringe beveled edge up at a very shallow angle into the vein. Once you pierce the skin pull up. This will create a vacuum so that when you hit the vein, the blood will just flood up the barrel, and you won't have to worry about slipping out of the vein while registering (drawing up you're blood).you might have to push in a bit deeper or adjust the angle of the syringe to hit the vein. This is not ideal, so you should try to visualize the needle in relation to the vein so you don't go through it. However once you hit the vein and the blood shoots up your syringe, loosen the tourniquet.
8.with steady hands draw back a bit more so that you know you're still in the vein, as it might have slipped out while loosening the tourniquet. IMO tourniquets or more of a hindrance than a help when your basilic vein still works, for this reason. If you're not using a tourniquet you can just inject once the blood runs up the barrel, otherwise you better register a little bit more to make sure you didn't slip out.
This technique of creating a vacuum really helped me out when I first started injecting, as the main problem I always had was keeping the syringe in the vein while registering. IMO, as I said above, tourniquets really aren't necessary unless you have very small veins, or have a lot of meat on your arms. Hopefully this helps.
Znegative
Bluelight Crew
No problem, just doing my service, you know, helping people shoot heroin appropriately, one day at a time.
If I were you though, I would test the dope out first to make sure it's not going to kill you. Start with half a bag at most since this is only your third time using heroin in general.
If I were you though, I would test the dope out first to make sure it's not going to kill you. Start with half a bag at most since this is only your third time using heroin in general.
Definitely, I plan on snorting half a bag and waiting maybe even until the next day to shoot up. Knowing me though, I probably will love the shit as much as last time and go ahead and shoot up after railing that half bag. Any other tips I need to know?
Znegative
Bluelight Crew
Yeah, you don't need to cook your dope. I usually did it just because it added to the ritual, but it really doesn't do anything to "cook off the cut". If anything it will just dissolve the cut more into your solution which is worse
Emily29707
Bluelighter
I'm certainly not an expert but it sounds to me like you could be in trouble. Reading about it, thinking about it; next you might want to watch someone shoot up. And then....
4 years clean is not something you want to throw away. Find someone to talk to and get some help before you're back using again.
4 years clean is not something you want to throw away. Find someone to talk to and get some help before you're back using again.
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Bambooshoot
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Please don't do it. It's a very slippery slope =(
Fire&Water
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My advice: dont do it.
livetheopiatedream
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21-06-201223:57
hey dude
Edit- tip; after tourniquet is on if ur veins won't bulk up, windmill ur arm around all the blood will rush to the ends of ur arm / hands u can actually feel it this method works great for me lol
i always use the vacuum method- suck a bubble in once under the skin so when u hit, u register [blood shoots into barrel immediately] automatically, and bonus u can tell if u overshot and went thru the other side.
lower forearmm/wrist/hand superficial veins- easy to see but roll like motherfuckers- always aim ALONG the vein, feel it out a lot w ur finger and line it up with the hole of the needle pointing up [sharpest point breaking skin first] shooting toward ur heart/\.... instead of taking aim and inserting in a slow searching motion, insert in almost a stab, quickly, on an angle along the chosen veinn [stretching ur arm or wrist to the point where ur skin becomes tightest [just the position of ur arm]helps sometimes cuz the vein is flattened and stretched and less rolly] putting the tourniquet 3-4 inches below crook very tight helps to bulk the veins up so the stabbing motion works beautifully for these [never shoot into the bottom of the V part of a Y intersection of veins cuz u can damage the valve that is there]. since the one u chose was superficial u can avoid the losing the register when removing tourniquet (after u register, before u shoot, u remove it) cuz it wont go deep into ur skin. if u cant find it [vein] check with ur other hand which way the vein rolled with the needle still in so u r not stabbing randomly. if u still cant hit, search systematically ; up down side side, if youre close. dont use the same rig for more than 3-4 pokes [not including fishing for a vein [the systematic way at least if u MUST but really its better to just try again if it swells [often] hard to find it again switch spots]
ugh theres more but what do you want to know?
Easiest beginners spot is the crook of ur arm tho. That fat vein won't roll and is easy to find. Tie off at the upper arm for the crook shot and for forearm shot tie off below elbow.
Can take tourniquet on/off and feel the vein inflate/deflate beforehand to feel out the vein and know where u plan to hit, so u know for sure it's a vein ur feelin.
Feel free to pm for advice. Most of this is copied from an old pm of mine when someone else asked for help.
hey dude
Edit- tip; after tourniquet is on if ur veins won't bulk up, windmill ur arm around all the blood will rush to the ends of ur arm / hands
u can actually feel it this method works great for me loli always use the vacuum method- suck a bubble in once under the skin so when u hit, u register [blood shoots into barrel immediately] automatically, and bonus u can tell if u overshot and went thru the other side.
lower forearmm/wrist/hand superficial veins- easy to see but roll like motherfuckers- always aim ALONG the vein, feel it out a lot w ur finger and line it up with the hole of the needle pointing up [sharpest point breaking skin first] shooting toward ur heart/\.... instead of taking aim and inserting in a slow searching motion, insert in almost a stab, quickly, on an angle along the chosen veinn [stretching ur arm or wrist to the point where ur skin becomes tightest [just the position of ur arm]helps sometimes cuz the vein is flattened and stretched and less rolly] putting the tourniquet 3-4 inches below crook very tight helps to bulk the veins up so the stabbing motion works beautifully for these [never shoot into the bottom of the V part of a Y intersection of veins cuz u can damage the valve that is there]. since the one u chose was superficial u can avoid the losing the register when removing tourniquet (after u register, before u shoot, u remove it) cuz it wont go deep into ur skin. if u cant find it [vein] check with ur other hand which way the vein rolled with the needle still in so u r not stabbing randomly. if u still cant hit, search systematically ; up down side side, if youre close. dont use the same rig for more than 3-4 pokes [not including fishing for a vein [the systematic way at least if u MUST but really its better to just try again if it swells [often] hard to find it again switch spots]
ugh theres more but what do you want to know?
Easiest beginners spot is the crook of ur arm tho. That fat vein won't roll and is easy to find. Tie off at the upper arm for the crook shot and for forearm shot tie off below elbow.
Can take tourniquet on/off and feel the vein inflate/deflate beforehand to feel out the vein and know where u plan to hit, so u know for sure it's a vein ur feelin.
Feel free to pm for advice. Most of this is copied from an old pm of mine when someone else asked for help.
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Dear Emily29707, thank you for your advice. However, could u please delete the part where it says my name. Someone (she won't tell me who) pointed it out and showed it to my mother who is apparently horribly ashamed and embarrassed by her daughter who is a recovering addict and hasn't touched a drug in over 4 yrs. Accordind to her I should b ashamed of that because she, and I quote "certainly is ashamed." But for the record, I have overcome one of the hardest things that there is to overcome in this world and I will NEVER apologize for that! And for everyone else out there who has struggled w addiction and come out the other side, don't ever let ANYONE convince you that you should b ashamed or embarrassed! However, since I'm "such an embarrassment to the family" I'm kindly requesting that you delete the part w my name in it. Again, thank you for your advice, and thank you in advance.
I kinda skimmed through the other posts, so sorry if I'm saying something that's been said already.
Use sterile water from a bottle. Wash your hands, arms, and whatever you're going to mix the dope in (the cookier) with antibacterial soap.
Have alcohol swabs on hand. I personally use the cotton from tampons because it's sterile.
I would just use the crook of your right arm. I've never had to tie off my arm to find it. Just feel for the vein and push the very tip of the needle in and pull back the plunger to create suction. Then keeping going in slowly till you register (blood goes into the syringe). If that doesn't happen, you're in the wrong spot. Try somewhere else.
Once you register, slowly press down the plunger. Stop repeatedly to see if it's hitting you too hard and to make sure you can still register. If you miss it will hurt like a bitch and you can get an abscess. I can always tell if Ive slipped out even without re-registering because it burns.
This is just my own experience as well as advice from some very knowledgeable BLers.
Edit: And yes, do NOT cook your dope. Heroin is soluble in water. Heating it causes insoluble shit to get into the water. Just mix it really well with the end of the plunger until it's all mixed up then filter.
Use sterile water from a bottle. Wash your hands, arms, and whatever you're going to mix the dope in (the cookier) with antibacterial soap.
Have alcohol swabs on hand. I personally use the cotton from tampons because it's sterile.
I would just use the crook of your right arm. I've never had to tie off my arm to find it. Just feel for the vein and push the very tip of the needle in and pull back the plunger to create suction. Then keeping going in slowly till you register (blood goes into the syringe). If that doesn't happen, you're in the wrong spot. Try somewhere else.
Once you register, slowly press down the plunger. Stop repeatedly to see if it's hitting you too hard and to make sure you can still register. If you miss it will hurt like a bitch and you can get an abscess. I can always tell if Ive slipped out even without re-registering because it burns.
This is just my own experience as well as advice from some very knowledgeable BLers.
Edit: And yes, do NOT cook your dope. Heroin is soluble in water. Heating it causes insoluble shit to get into the water. Just mix it really well with the end of the plunger until it's all mixed up then filter.
Polynomial
Bluelighter
Very helpful. Thank you.
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