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Should all drugs be 100% legal?

Should all Drugs be Legal?

  • Yes

    Votes: 72 55.0%

  • No

    Votes: 20 15.3%

  • Only if government regulated

    Votes: 39 29.8%
  • Total voters
    131
I know alot of people think that if it were legalized users would jump out of no where. But does anyone remember the first time they did drugs? I know plenty of people did it BECAUSE its illegal and not allowed. Its part of some of us.. we don't like to obey other peoples rules or law. I have done plenty of drugs and am in quite a bit of an off time for the hard stuff (8 years) but just because it was legal doesnt mean I would do all of it. Some of it yea maybe but thats cause I want to not because its available. If it could come with a quantity limit or something and an age limit then fine I think it would be manageable to an extent.

Besides think of the risky behavior used to attain these drugs.. alot of people get diseases or get shot or whatever just trying to get their supply so if it were marketed by the government there goes alot of the danger. Thats my opinion though

for the record I think its bs that the government controls all we do and its supposed to be the land of the free? My ass
 
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^^ yeah if you tell people not to do something then it sounds to some people like you should do it...

I'm kinda on the fence about this though... on the one hand I think people should be free to do as they choose with their own bodies and I doubt many people would start using really destructive drugs just because they are now 'allowed to'

but personally, I have never met anyone who uses say, heroin and doesn't end up addicted so personally I think using such drugs should be strongly discouraged...

I think that a classification system based on something like David Nutt suggested is a good idea, as its based on harm rather than the random system we have right now..
 
The Network said:
I had the balls to vote no, because there are many extremely dangerous drugs, and stupid little kids would be dying left and right if we legalized EVERY drug. I say legalize recreational drugs like E, acid, bud, mescaline, psilocin, psilocybin, etc. But the hard drugs like heroin, meth, etc should stay illegal or at least severely restricted, like you need a special license or some crap idk.
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Ive never done Heroin, but how damaging can it be its just an opiate, just like LEGAL oxycodone and hydrocodone, which i enjoy very much.
To the OP, i voted yes, crime and violence would be down. And you wouldn't hear of people getting 10 years for selling 2 dime bags. Yep, i read a story about a woman who sold to dime bags of weed to a undercover cop and got 10 years. Sad world we live in isnt it
 
i say no because when people get extremely addicted to drugs such as heroin and tweak they can become a danger to other people, ie stealing/hurting to get money for their addiction. obviously weed should be legal, and i believe psychedelics and drugs like MDMA should be legal as well, but not ALL drugs.
 
edgarshade said:
If cocaine were legal would we have crack cocaine? If amphetamines were legal would we have methamphetamine?
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I can't speak for the former, but amphetamine and methamphetamine (specifically, Desoxyn) are clinically used for the treatment of ADD/ADHD and obesity.
 
Methamphetamine is already legal in the form of Desoxyn tablets for ADHD, and actually I know of two people who are prescribed methamphetamine hcl tablets for that reason.They do not abuse or misuse the meth pills. This being said we already have legal prescription opiates that are equal to or stronger than heroin per mg, like oxymorphone, hydromorphone,Fentanyl,etc..The drug companies are just getting rich selling basicly heroin by another name/form, but at proper doses these opiates=heroin in the end. Not that they have the exact effects of heroin, but they produce the same result.
I would say make marijuana,shrooms,and some other drugs legal for 18 year olds. Make cocaine(already a schedule 2 drug and used medically)heroin, and crystal meth legal to those above 21! Alcohol is one of the most dangerous drugs their is, not just becasue it is easy to obtain, but becasue it is causes people to drive drunk and kill themselves and others, causes domestic violence issues,and damages the liver and so on..
In all honesty all drugs are as easy to get or ,for a teenager, easier to obtain than alcohol. Any 15 or 16 year old can find weed,coke,MDMA, presciption opiates,meth,and in many places heroin at their high school, through a friend or a dealer they meet there.Most of these drugs are cheaper to buy than a bottle of alcohol..like a bag of heroin, costs about what a 6 pack or 12 pack of beer would cost, meth costs about the same or less than a case of beer, and that is enough to keep someone high for a day or two..
So, do we continue this long failed war on drugs, or legalize and have quality controls in place by a government agency to assure purity, quality,etc..Take the dangerous cuts in cocaine and sometimes in heroin out, make the drugs all equal potentcy, all the time, and you will not find someone used to using 40% pure heroin as an example , dead of an OD when they obtain a qunatity of heroin that is 60% pure and assume it is the usual 40% pure stuff.That is where many of the heroin OD's come from. The example of 40% pure heroin and then unknowingly using 60% pure heroin is a good example, 60% pure heroin is 25% stronger than 40% pure heroin..That may seem like a small difference, but when someone is used to 40% and uses the 3 bags or whatever in one dose,and it's 25% stronger,then they might easily OD..
 
Never Knows Best said:
But if these drugs were legal they'd be much much cheaper, and those people might not need to resort to crime to fund their habit.
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I think they would. they would just be able to go deeper into their addiction before resorting to crime, which would probably make it even worse.
 
Gerald92 said:
I think they would. they would just be able to go deeper into their addiction before resorting to crime, which would probably make it even worse.
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No.


Why do people always associate drug addicts with rabid dogs or some shit like that? Fact of the matter is, people do not get addicted to drugs (including alcohol, I am not saying "drugs and alcohol" because the term makes me want to kill myself) unless they have mental problems. Therefore, you have a lot of people who already had Anti-Social Personality traits or NPD traits to begin with who get down on their luck, and have no problem resorting to real crime. These people were fucked from the start, and everyone associates the crime with drug use and only drug use, but the fact of the matter is, most of us addicts here wouldn't rob somebody at gunpoint no matter how far down we go. Because even if we are sick or on crack, we've got conscience.

Also, some people just need these drugs (especially opiates, I argue) as medication to offset natural imbalances. An opiate addiction isn't a problem until it becomes unsustainable. How many people here would have had problems with opiates had they had unlimited supply all of the time? I'm really curious, because I believe that if my addiction were sustainable I wouldn't have any issues with the dependency. It would just be a natural correction, as opiates do not impair me unless I take really high doses, and I have to really try and do that (unless I get really, really good heroin and get thrown off guard).
 
I remember reading somewhere that the # of opiate addicts in the US didn't change after the laws prohibiting / restricting them were made, and has more or less remained constant since then. I really don't think legalization / decriminalization would lead to a dramatic increase in use. I agree with most of what DavisK4High has to say.
 
i definitely think that, given our culture, usage will have a higher increase in usage than many other countries would. that said, it'd be so minimal as to have ZERO impact on the larger issues here, whether we're considering only current drug users, only non-users, or- especially -society as a whole.

(to anyone interested in a good example - and sorry if it's been brought up in this thread already - check out Portugal. They decrim'd personal-usage amounts *across the board* a tad over 10yrs ago, their figures speak for themselves.)
 
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i definitely think that, given our culture, usage will have a higher increase in usage than many other countries would. that said, it'd be so minimal as to have ZERO impact on the larger issues here, whether we're considering only current drug users, only non-users, or- especially -society as a whole.

(to anyone interested in a good example - and sorry if it's been brought up in this thread already - check out Portugal. They decrim'd personal-usage amounts *across the board* a tad over 10yrs ago, their figures speak for themselves.)
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Seconded (I'm not from the US but our culture is very similar if not more likely for this to occur)
 
I believe that people have the right to put whatever chemicals they want in to their own bodies. However, I also believe the government has the right to tax and regulate (in the fashion of alcohol and cigarettes) any drug, to make up for health costs that these drugs may cause. Also, government regulation would make sure that every dose you buy is pharmaceutical quality. So, I chose the third option.
 
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On a moral level, I'd have to say yes - it is your business what you decide to put into your body, and I don't think any government body to have say over that. Not that I think kids should be doing meth, but really, if they were persistent, they could find it even if it was illegal. On a consequentialist level, legalization just doesn't work - all that it leads to is the formation of a black market, which then empowers gangs, leading to violence, death, etc. I just don't see any advantages to drugs remaining illegal - their illegality causes nothing but problems, and doesn't at all address the problems created by drug abuse.
 
should drugs be legal

Hi there
Do you think ALL drugs should be legal.
If drugs were sold OTC there would be an age limit , the purity would remain the same , you would get cheap or free needles and drugs would be cheaper .
Each drug would come with a recommended dosage instead of playing russian roulette with each batch , and a recommended increase in dosage.
Heroin would come with opiate supressors that prevent overdoses , and with a booklet cotaining warnings and information about the drug.
The drugs would come in a blank package , would not be advertised and their packing would be devoid of any actractive designs.
That way crime would be down since the government can mass produce drugs much more easily than criminal gangs , drug use would probably go down ( alchool use mid alchool prohibition ) since drugs woundlt be the forbidden druit( which is appealing to the human psyche , we are drawn to danger especially teenagers) , drugs would be purer , safer and cheaper and murder/crimer rates would be lower.
Ods would go down , aids propagation would go down . Of course one can argue that we would go back to the pre prohibition america in which drug use was rampant , but i think back then people didnt have such a clear picture of each substances dangers and patented medicines would have extremly addictive drugs without users knowledge( things like hunters remedy and so on) , spending money in education and treatment and using the revenue of drug sales to society's benifit would be preferable.
Of course one can argue that we would be maitining addicts that way , there are a lot of alchool adicts and mainly because like tobbacoo the general populace isnt and wasnt´aware of its dangers , we shouldn´t advertise or encourage the use of drugs NEVER we should make them available but educate everyone of their dangers.
Tobbaco and alchool should never have been advertised or encouraged , and just because the govt suplies the drug it doenst mean that it shouldnt look to treat it´s abusers .
I think the pros outweight the cons overall.
What do you think?
 
I agree with some of your statements, although in my opinion not all drugs should be legal. A few that i think could possibly be: marijuana (duh), mdma(pure), most psychedelics, and maybe a few others i cant name off the top of my head. i definitely dont think heroin, meth, or crack should be legal.
 
Portugal.
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Missconception
Drugs are not legal in the sense you can buy them OTC , you just dont go to jail if you use them
It doesnt fix the problem of the dangers od the illegal market.
Grit weed is very common around here and i smoked quite abit of it.
Grit weed can burn holes in your lungs and make you develop silicosis , weed is quite benign naturally but is being tainted with lead , glass and other contaminants
i definitely dont think heroin, meth, or crack should be legal.
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You are entitled to your opinion of course but if those drugd were legal users woudlnt be the scum of the earth
in societies eyes.
They wounld be pushed out and treated like marginals , we could reach them and provide them with treatment.
Drug illegality makes for a more dangerous product full of dangerous cuts and varying purity ( lets not forget the danger that is fentanyl cuted heroin)
Its just putting another layer of danger into very dangerous substances.
Prohibiton didnt work for alchool it doesnt work for other drugs.
 
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