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MEGA - Jobs, Resumes, Interviews

i'm not sure an i've-applied-for-so-many-jobs dicksizing thread is of much value. i've been in periods of job hunting in my life where i've been hired for the first or second job for which i've applied. i've also been applying during very trying times in a particular market and i've sent off 100 applications and had 3 responses and no interviews...

what is your skill set? what are your qualifications? what is your experience? what kinds of positions are you applying for?

do you think a 10-1 application to interview ratio is high, low or typical? i'd say it's pretty good.

alasdair
 
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a 10:1 application to interview ratio sounds great.

when i graduated from college and was applying to jobs i was very well-qualified for (social sciences research), i would say it was something like 15:1 . . ended up seriously interviewing with 4 companies and getting 1 offer.

my last attempt at job-hunting (risk management: career-changer, but definitely qualified), it was probably about 100:1.

now finishing grad school and starting the process all over again.
 
Well I have no job history...

Applied to like 4 places... Got no calls.

Applied to 5th job got interview didn't need 2nd one... Got hired in october :D I'm going into work at 1pm but been working before today of course.
 
if you can keep count, you're not applying enough. doesn't mean you accept anything you're offered, though.
 
Hundreds it seemed like.
As of recently, I was looking for jobs since April, I finally found a job at the end of August (started in September). I probably did apply to at least a hundred jobs (I was averaging more than one per day). I got one interview at a fast food place ... that was all! Until the job I actually got. Ugh, I hate the economy. And the job that I got is only part time :( :( :(.
 
Who knows, I've applied to jobs in like 10 different towns in two different timezones for the past 6 years or so and had one call back for McDonalds.

The only other work I've had in that time is when my dad got hired and brought me along.
 
Hi

This topic help me a lot in developing my project. I will contribute more when I finished it.
 
I was let go from my previous job for theft.

my question is... when my next potential employer calls my old store what can the managers say about me? Are they allowed to get into detail of my firing or can they only talk about what kind of employee i was?
with all due respect, employers have every right to know if you were fired from a previous job for theft.

what happened? your messages seem a little blasé about the issue but i don't want to assume what that might mean.

i do not advocate lying to a potential employer but, in practical terms, you're probably best just omitting this employer from your history. you need to decide what you're going to do if somebody asks you about the resulting gap. this issue may well end up impacting your employment potential but, on some level, you're going to have to take responsibility for what you did.

alasdair
 
I feel that in the case of criminal matters, once the debt has been settled between the convicted, the parties wronged and the state, it's nobody's damn business but your own what you did, and unless you're running a day care or a government intelligence agency, you should not even have legal access to people's criminal history. As an employer, lots of things are nice to know, but it's understood that many of those things will necessarily be used to eliminate people from the applicant pool.

Disclosure in this case would almost definitely ensure perpetual unemployment. The notion that putting past transgressions on your resume in the hopes that the candor is seen as a sign of good character is a just silly. That person would be driven to a life of crime just to survive. The system would literally be feeding itself.

I've been aggressively lobbying against employers having access to criminal and financial background checks since I've started working. I wholeheartedly believe that access to this private and privileged information needs to change if we are serious about rehabilitation.
 
We'll see by the end of next week.

I think this is a useful thread in gauging the disparity of the populous at current. I've applied to about 40 jobs with 2 interviews this past week. I'd rather not jinx myself though.
 
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almost a year now... lost count, did some day contracts here and there. Longest I worked was two months

I left high school and have no skills
^VDAB has got loads of courses to choose from http://vdab.be/opleidingen/ out of the 1483 courses listed there must be one that you're interested in. If I was out of work there I'd work in a pub/club straight away, not hard to find.
 
^ That sounds fucking heavy duty boyo!!

sounds to me like you've decided your only option is to lie to get ahead. if that's the case, i wonder why you'd ask for opinions in the first place...

alasdair

Yes, I was thinking about this too - it's pretty obvious why he has.

We're brought up being taught that lying in any circumstances is bad.

I don't think that lying for a job is a moral issue, but I agree with Alisdairm when he says it's not the best idea one could have - it can definitely have repurcussions unforeseeable to someone who doesn't know exactly what checks can be made by the potential employer...

I believe that everyone needs to put food on their table - therefore if you're really doing it to get by - it's not a question of right or wrong at all, it's just how you survive.

As long as it doesn't get you into trouble - filling in gaps, and possibly extending the amount of time you've workjed at certain places is OK.
It's the big lies that can really get you into trouble and should be avoided at all costs, as I can see these being held as fraud, worst-case-scenario you get held on charges and jailed by the big gangsters.

Best case scenario for the big lies is you get away with it, but do you really want to be looking over your shoulder all the time? Unless you record your fallacies, and study up on them and therefore believe them to be the truth, I don't see things going well - slip ups happening etc.

I don't agree with the concept of making yourself unemployable though, there's always something you can do to get by - and this doesn't necessarily mean working at KFC or whatever.

Since the economy have gone to shit, if you are going to lie on your resume pick companies that are no longer in business. They will have no way to verify your employment.

I have had great fortune with this - you can extend the periods of employment with these ones to fill any unsightly gaps...I would find it even harder without these personally, considering my mindset in the past, which is still not the best it could be.
 
Good effort on the lobbying^

OP - Omitting would have been your best idea, as theft on your record of employment will definitely get you nowhere really fucking fast...and over and over.

COnsidering it's a big firm and you were there for 3 years, I think in hte future your best bet would be to give your best friend a throw-away cell and ask him to be your previous employer, tbh!
 
For one thing, this is a bumped thread that is over a year and a half old.

I think in hte future your best bet would be to give your best friend a throw-away cell and ask him to be your previous employer, tbh!

I would highly recommend against doing this ^. There are too many problems with having someone pose as an old employer. I know the law states that prospective employers are only allowed to ask certain questions. But the reality is that they may ask your friend something that stumps him or her and it will make you look pretty stupid.

I've had jobs I could not put on a resume (though not because of theft). The best thing to do is just not list them and try to find a good excuse for not having a job during that time period.
 
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